Do I have A Bad Burner? (Liteon LH-20A1H)

vbimport

#1

Hi all

I’m new to this forum, but I’ve been checking it out for the last week or 2.

I’m having burner problems. My old Liteon 4x burner was quite stable, and rarely burned coasters. This new drive was basically just swapped out. I don’t know why I’m having problems. I returned one drive, and am now on my second. I have until tomorrow to return it again without having to RMA it.

Here’s the problem:

I’m trying to burn a DVD ISO created with Adobe Encore 2. I’m using Nero 7. I tried to burn the first one, and it quit right away with a “Power Calibration Error” showing in the log. After this, the drive refused to read ANY media, even a manufactured CDROM.

I did some searching, and determined that my drive was running in UDMA 2, so I switched the cable to an 80 pin, and now Windows XP reports UDMA 4.

I just tried burning twice more, and now it burns fine, but I get a whole whack of “read errors” during verification.

What are the possibilities of me getting 2 bad drives? The computer store doesn’t seem to think that’s very possible.

Am I beating a dead horse with a possible 2nd bad drive, or should I be looking at other problems?

I’m using LightScribe DVD+R media from Memorex, and also Maxell DVD+R. I’m burning at 4X to be safe.

My system:

Windows XP SP2
2 Gigs RAM
Pentium 4C @ 3.2 Ghz
Oodles of very fast hard drive space.
Nero 7 Ultra Edition

Can anyone tell me if there’s any way to know for sure if I have a bad drive? I have all my log files from today’s burns saved. I also previously ran this drive through Nero CD/DVD speed and it seemed ok.

Please help.


#2

you need to get better quailty media TY or Verbatim with lightscribe or w/o.
memorex is the worst maxell not made in japan is not to good.


#3

Spot on.

Burning at 4x is NOT as safe as you think. This burner will burn quality 16x media at speeds from 12x to 20x and give better burns at these higher speeds than at 4x. Personally I’d plump for 12x.


#4

Thanks for the replies :slight_smile:

What I’m still having trouble understanding is why the old burner was fine on this same media? (Liteon LDW411S)

I moved my ISO file onto a different drive, thinking my RAID drives might be fragmented (currently full of video files until I can finalize this DVD), and it burned a good one. I’m just running it through CD/DVD Speed’s Disk Quality right now. Could moving the ISO have had any effect?

[edit] My last burn after moving the ISO just reported a disc quality of 93%. Trying the transfer rate test now.

I got a bunch of Taiyo Yudens dropped off to me about 5 minutes ago as well, so I think I’ll re-burn anyway on the good stuff. These are impossible to get around here btw, I called in a favour to get some of these (like 20), but I don’t know when I can get more, so it would suck quite badly if they were the only thing I could burn on. I’ll try to keep them for mastering the important stuff.

Thanks for the info. I’ve always thought the slower burn would be the safest. I’ll try 12x next, and I’ll see if I can find some Verbatims, although those have been hard to find around here also (Winnipeg, Canada).


#5

Your Memorex discs may or may not be decent, check the media code in CD-DVD Speed and scan one of the discs at 8x. Possibilities include CMC M01, RICOHJPN R03, etc. CMC M01 is probably what they are I’m guessing, sometimes they burn well but they have poor consistency. Regardless of media code, I’d suggest 8x or 12x for your discs for best results - I usually get the best results at 8x, though 12x usually does well and is not much slower than 16x-20x.


#6

What about the drive just giving up an not being able to read anything earlier? Could that have had something to do with my older IDE cable (non-80pin) that I was using? That part’s scaring me. It wouldn’t read anything until I restarted Windows.

Last disc just passed the transfer test with flying colours.


#7

It was doing pretty much the exact same thing with 2 of the Memorex Lightscribes, and 2 of the Maxell 16x’s. All in a row, until I moved the ISO.

Disc Info says:

Maxell: CMC MAG M01 000 (00h)
Memorex Lightscribe: Exact same thing :stuck_out_tongue:

My new Taiyo Yudens are showing “unknown” for the manufacturer, and “TYG02” for the MID. Is this good?


#8

I don’t know much about Memorex media, but I have seen some bad reports about it in this forum. Made in Taiwan Maxell is not too bad, but is not exactly prime quality either.

I would start with a clean slate by clearing the OPC history. Use the test version of Smartburn for this.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=83441#media-smart_burn

Try burning at a higher speed. A lot of 16x media burns better at 16x than at 4x. Try using CD-DVD Speed to burn the image to the DVD and to scan the disc after burning. If you still have problems at this stage, the graphs produced by CD-DVD Speed might help to find the cause.

Good Luck.


#9

TYG02 is good media, yes. Perform a ‘quality scan’ at 8x of the CMC M01 discs burned at 8x or 12x and post a screen capture on here (click on the ‘floppy’ icon in the top right in CD-DVD Speed and save as a .PNG image). I just saw you mention a quality score of 93, that’s a good result. As I said they can sometimes burn decently but consistency is a problem with them. If you get good burns they’re fine to use, if you get poor burns then use them for less important burns. Stability is fine with CMC so if the burns are good, they’ll be fine. You’ll just have to make a point to test your discs with TRTs and quality scans to see how they do (which is a good idea with any media, especially so for important data).


#10

Nero just spit out a Taiyo Yuden:

Looks like another Power Calibration Error:

Here’s the log:

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.7.5.1
Internal Version: 7, 7, 5, 1

Recorder: < Image Recorder> Version: Not available - HA -1 TA 0 - 7.7.5.1
Adapter driver: <Virtual Device> HA -1
Drive buffer :
CD-ROM: <LITE-ON DVD SOHD-16P9S >Version: FS0J - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.7.5.1
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : IVI Virtual CD 0.5a iviVD Port 0 ID 0 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : ST3300622A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1H atapi Port 2 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVD SOHD-16P9S atapi Port 2 ID 1 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Raid 0 Volume iaStor Port 3 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
LITE-ON DVD SOHD-16P9S G: CDRom1
LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1H H: CDRom0
IVI Virtual CD O: CDRom2

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 2046MB (2095852kB)
Free physical memory: 1384MB (1417784kB)
Memory in use : 32 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

19.3.2007
Burn DVD Image
5:37:35 PM #1 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3465
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

5:37:35 PM #2 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 306
Last possible write address on media: 4718591 (1048:34.41, 9215MB)
Last address to be written: 1879445 (417:39.20, 3670MB)

5:37:35 PM #3 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 318
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

5:37:35 PM #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 490
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

5:37:35 PM #5 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 823
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, ISO 9660)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1879446 (1879446) = #1879446/417:39.21
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1879296 blocks [Image Recorder]
--------------------------------------------------------------

5:38:08 PM #6 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1026
Prepare [Image Recorder] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1: Idx 0 Idx 1 Next Trk
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3849105408, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start|___Track|Idx|CtrlAdr|Size|NWA|RecDep
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 1879446 | 1879296 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 1879446 | 1879296 | 0x00
1879446 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00

5:38:08 PM #7 Phase 65 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1760
Burn process started

5:38:08 PM #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2764
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

5:43:13 PM #9 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 113
<Image Recorder> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1879296 (1CAD00h), length 0 blocks

5:43:14 PM #10 Phase 66 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1760
Burn process completed successfully

Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


#11

I don’t know much about translating these logs, but I have to wonder what this is:

Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

Might not work any better, but give ImgBurn a try.


#12

Oops… Sorry, that wasn’t the right log. I’m such an idiot. That was a good log I used for comparing.

This is the bad log that turned the Taiyo Yuden into a coaster:

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.7.5.1
Internal Version: 7, 7, 5, 1

Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1H> Version: LL06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.7.5.1
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
CD-ROM: <LITE-ON DVD SOHD-16P9S >Version: FS0J - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.7.5.1
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : IVI Virtual CD 0.5a iviVD Port 0 ID 0 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : ST3300622A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1H atapi Port 2 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVD SOHD-16P9S atapi Port 2 ID 1 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Raid 0 Volume iaStor Port 3 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
LITE-ON DVD SOHD-16P9S G: CDRom1
LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1H H: CDRom0
IVI Virtual CD O: CDRom2

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 2046MB (2095852kB)
Free physical memory: 1341MB (1373492kB)
Memory in use : 34 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

19.3.2007
Burn DVD Image
6:51:59 PM #1 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 411
LockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL

6:51:59 PM #2 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3465
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

6:52:00 PM #3 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 306
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 1879445 (417:39.20, 3670MB)

6:52:00 PM #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 318
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

6:52:00 PM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2912
Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1H, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: TYG02 -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

6:52:00 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 490
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

6:52:00 PM #7 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 823
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, ISO 9660)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1879446 (1879446) = #1879446/417:39.21
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1879296 blocks [H: LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1H]
--------------------------------------------------------------

6:52:00 PM #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1026
Prepare [H: LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1H] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1: Idx 0 Idx 1 Next Trk
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3849105408, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start|___Track|Idx|CtrlAdr|Size|NWA|RecDep
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 1879446 | 1879296 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 1879446 | 1879296 | 0x00
1879446 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00

6:52:00 PM #9 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 209
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

6:52:00 PM #10 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1760
Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

6:52:00 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2764
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

6:52:00 PM #12 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3070
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

6:52:00 PM #13 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3226
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

6:52:00 PM #14 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 9288
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16…63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

6:52:17 PM #15 SPTI -1106 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 179
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1106)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x73
Sense Qual: 0x03
CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 73 03
Buffer x22040040: Len x10000
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

6:52:17 PM #16 CDR -1106 File Writer.cpp, Line 301
Power calibration error
H: LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1H

6:52:18 PM #17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3446
EndDAO: Last written address was -1

6:52:20 PM #18 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1760
Burn process failed at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

6:52:21 PM #19 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 254
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

6:52:25 PM #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 10529
DriveLocker: UnLockVolume completed

6:52:25 PM #21 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 411
UnLockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL

Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


#13

when you are burning a disk does the light double blink or single blink ? with maxell or memorex


#14

I didn’t notice what it was doing during the bad burns, but I’m burning another DVD with the Memorex Media, and it’s only blinking once each time.

I wonder if I was dealing with 2 different problems? I searched the Net for “Power Calibration Error” and found that a number of people fixed this problem with http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1251676&page=9 … I had tried this earlier, but turned it back on when I got all my read errors.

Now I’m wondering: Maybe I got the power calibration errors originally, then additionally got the read errors because I was trying to burn an ISO from a heavily fragmented disk? Therefore, I performed the tweak above (turning off the XP IMAPI Burning service), but was getting read errors for a different reason, then when I turned it back on and still got the read errors, I moved the ISO. I fixed the read errors, but not the Power Calibration Errors, which were still happening… whew sorry for the long-winded story :confused:

Is all this possible? I’m going to keep burning DVDs, expensive an option as that is, and see how it’s running now… I never got read errors except for that one ISO. I’ll see if I get any more Power Calibration Errors with the IMAPI service disabled.

Also, with the Taiyo Yudens, my first one turned into a coaster, but my second one burned beautifully (best darn Disc Quality scan I’ve seen yet), and I just burned another Memorex Lightscribe with no problems. Both were burned before the above IMAPI disabling trick.


#15

Snaps:

#1 is the CMC (Maxell) DVD+R Disc Quality test
#2 is the transfer rate for same.
#3 is the transfer rate for the Taiyo Yuden
#4 is the disc quality for the Taiyo Yuden (This actually looked much better @ 4x)






#16

The CMC M01 scan looks very good, if you continue to get similar results with them then there’s no reason at all not to continue using the ones you have.