Divx problem, not a newbie question

vbimport

#1

i'm very familiar with divx, i have divx 3.11 and divx 4.11 on my comp. I've encoded wih it, watched divx movies, done everything, and now its spazzy. I have pictures to show you
.as you can see the quality of playback is low, these are movies i encoded myself in divx 4.11. The work perfectly on all ther computer i have. But on here, they look like crap. I have 1 divx 3.11 movie and it works fine. I can't figure it out.

So if someone has had a similar experience could you please give me some advice and help on how to fix this.

TIA.

I edited this post cuz i tried to insert pics of my hd, and it didn't work, and i don't have a webpage to put them on, so how to let you guys see these pictures???


#2

Have you tried switching the DirectShow playback filter on the troublesome computer? To FFDShow maybe?

On an unrelated note: Why DivX 4? DivX 5 is better. I can see DivX 3.11 for Nandub, biut why one would use DivX 4 anymore is a mystery to me (Not as good as SBC).


#3

the only reason i’m using divx 4 instead of 5 is b/c:

  1. I run some of these movies on another slower computer
  2. I’ve been kind of lazy
  3. I don’t want to mess with the stupid gain gator bullcrap

But, its not like i’m against divx 5.

and by the way, how do i change the filter in wmp 6.4?


#4

if you want to use divx 5, make sure and use a firewall…deny internet access to “gain trickler” and go to www.doom9.org for tips on how to clean up the spyware part of the codec. there is a very good forum for this type of stuff on that site


#5

and by the way, how do i change the filter in wmp 6.4?

You can just install FFDShow, and select it from the GUI, or use a FOURCC changer to change the FourCC to XviD, and see if XviD’s filter will work.

If this doesn’t work, I’ve got no idea. (I never used DivX 4 that much; SBC always gave me better quality. Now I use DivX 5 with RC averaging set to half the number of frames, and it gives me better quality than everything else.)


#6

DivX 4 IS SBC … and IMO better than DivX 3.11 … !!

However DivX 5.02 Beats them both by a mile.


#7

DivX 4 is VBR, like SBC. SBC is now used only describing DivX 3.11a, using Nandub.

Most people think that DivX 4 wasn’t as good as SBC. A few still think that SBC has better quality than DivX 5 (Often using the argument that releases are often SBC, despite the statements of many releasers to the contrary [I’m talking quality-wise, not saying that they encode with others]. It’s generally accepted to wait until XviD reaches an official non-alpha version).

I personally think the best quality is DivX 5, with B-Frames, GMC, psychovisual enhancements, max quant 10, and the RC averaging period set to 1/2 the total frames (I used to use total frame RC averaging, but the only difference was that it was grainier).

I also use FFDShow for watching movies (Hell, 1,000 fps without breaking a sweat :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: ).


#8

thanks for the help i got it to work!! Yipee, know i can watch my movies:bow:


#9

DivX 4 IS SBC … and IMO better than DivX 3.11 … !!
However DivX 5.02 Beats them both by a mile.

A lot of people would disagree with that.
SBC (DivX 3.11) is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better then the DivX 4 or 5 for that matter.
The only good thing about DivX 4 & 5 is that they encode a lot faster then 3.11. But I prefer quality over a few hours saved in encoding times…


#10

Originally posted by Fryng

A lot of people would disagree with that.

It depends on the movie.

But by and large, a DivX 5 encode will look better than an SBC encode, but both will almost always look better than a DivX 4 encode.

And “Well, the release scene uses it, so it must by better” doesn’t count as a reason. The “scene” also uses ABR Mp3 radium, not VBR lame.

By fiddling with B-Frame quant multipliers, RC averaging, min/max quants, Log editing, you can get better quality with DivX 5, most of the time.


#11

Maybe, guess just always had bad experiences with DivX 5: Grainy movies & compression artefacts even at high bit rates and setting similar you’ve described.

I don’t want to turn this into a debate wether or not DivX 5 is better than 3.11 (been there done that). For now I’ll just stick with nandub and lame.

PS: I don’t care what the “scene” does or doesn’t do; only care about quality… :bigsmile:


#12

Even more, AVI format does not allow non-linear decompression methods, such as B frames! DivX5 is violating AVI format specs!


#13

Originally posted by alexnoe
Even more, AVI format does not allow non-linear decompression methods, such as B frames! DivX5 is violating AVI format specs!

Those god-awful specs…

What on earth would instill them to create a format so terrible that it would be incompatible even with existing ones! That are already the standard!