Disk will not play

the manchurian candidate, will not play in either drive, so unable to copy with anydvd and dvd clone? dvd does play fine in normal dvd player!
hlep???

Do you mean neither of your drives recognize the dvd?

thats right, nothing sees the disk at all, not even dvd shrink which i normally swear by!!
is this a new type of copy protection we are seeing here?