DeUHD review (in a few parts)


#1

I received a review key earlier today, and am right now in the process of testing DeUHD by decrypting a title.

OS: Windows 7 64-bit
CPU: Xeon E5-2670 V2
Optical drive: LG BH16NS55

Firstly, Avast antivirus is convinced the installation .exe contains a Trojan, so I had to disable Avast in order to install the program. Immediately after installation I discovered that all four optical drives in my system had disappeared. Rebooted Windows, and all optical drives reappeared. I tried to run DeUHD, only to learn that Avast still wasn’t happy with the program and placed it in its Virus chest. Fixed that in Avast by restoring the program and creating an exclusion for it.

Ran DeUHD which resulted in its icon appearing in the taskbar. Placed a disc (Miss Peregrine’s Home…) in the drive which proceeded to crunch it around for a few moment, after which DeUHD progress window appeared. It spent about a minute examining the contents of the disc, then disappeared.

Clicking DeUHD icon on taskbar with the right mouse button brought up a familiar looking menu with the following options:

  • Settings…
  • Rip to Hard Disk…
  • Rip to Image…
  • Checking for updates
  • Help
  • Activate
  • Exit

Selected “Rip to Hard Disk” and a dialog window popped up for selecting source drive and destination directory. Chose both, clicked button marked “Rip” and DeUHD began to process the disc immediately.

At the beginning it was reporting a read (decrypt?) speed of 10-11 MB/s but once the process had reached 1% completion, the speed had dropped down to 7.5 MB/s. At 1.23% completion the speed had dropped to 4.09 MB/s.

As I’m typing this the process is at 50.9% completion. Read/decrypt speed is listed as 3.27 MB/s. Process has been running for 2 hours 24 minutes, and reported Time left is 2 hours 17 minutes. I’m guessing part of the reason it takes quite a long time is that DeUHD is running on a single CPU thread at 86-92% load.

Will post an update once process has finished.


#2

DeUHD speeded up a bit towards the end, and finished the process in 3 hours 43 minutes.

It created a directory with disc title as a name on destination drive. Subdirectories are:

  • BDMV [43.4 GB]
  • CERTIFICATE [8.20 KB]
  • DFEX [10.3 GB]
  • UHD! [261 MB]


#3

Mediainfo of 00006.m2ts (Main movie) from rip #2, done on a Win10 box:

General
ID : 0 (0x0)
Complete name : W:\MISS PEREGRINE HFPC\BDMV\STREAM\00006.m2ts
CompleteName_Last : W:\MISS PEREGRINE HFPC\BDMV\STREAM\00069.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 43.2 GiB
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum Overall bit rate : 109 Mb/s

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
Codec ID : 36
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Writing library : ATEME Titan File 3.7.6 (4.7.6.101)
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : SMPTE ST 2084
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : R: x=0.680000 y=0.320000, G: x=0.265000 y=0.690000, B: x=0.150000 y=0.060000, White point: x=0.312700 y=0.329000
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0000 cd/m2, max: 1000.0000 cd/m2

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : TrueHD / AC-3
Format profile : TrueHD+Atmos / TrueHD / AC-3
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 131
Bit rate mode : Variable / Constant
Bit rate : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 8 187 kb/s
Channel(s) : Object Based / 8 channels / 6 channels
Channel positions : Object Based / Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : / 48.0 kHz / 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Delay relative to video : -1 ms
Service kind : Complete Main

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Service kind : Complete Main

Audio #3
ID : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Service kind : Complete Main

Audio #4
ID : 4355 (0x1103)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 130
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 768 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 spf)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy

Audio #5
ID : 4356 (0x1104)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 130
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 768 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 spf)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy

Audio #6
ID : 4357 (0x1105)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 130
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 768 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 spf)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy

Audio #7
ID : 4358 (0x1106)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 130
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 768 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 spf)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy

Text #1
ID : 4768 (0x12A0)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #2
ID : 4769 (0x12A1)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #3
ID : 4770 (0x12A2)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #4
ID : 4771 (0x12A3)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #5
ID : 4772 (0x12A4)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #6
ID : 4773 (0x12A5)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #7
ID : 4774 (0x12A6)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #8
ID : 4775 (0x12A7)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #9
ID : 4776 (0x12A8)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #10
ID : 4777 (0x12A9)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #11
ID : 4778 (0x12AA)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #12
ID : 4779 (0x12AB)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #13
ID : 4780 (0x12AC)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144


#4

[Rip attempt #1, on Win7]

It would appear that something went wrong in the rip.

Windows playback test on mpv

I tried to play the main title .m2ts (00006.m2ts) on mpv which plays pretty much anything. It starts playing the file but reports the title’s length as 20 hours and 20 minutes. Clicking anywhere on its timeline freezes playback immediately. Letting it run plays the movie without issues until 00:12:18 where it freezes.

Creating an .mkv

I attempted to create an .mkv using mkvtoolnix. It parsed title contents without issues and picked playlist 00800 as the main title. I did not deselect any audio or subtitle tracks. Mkvtoolnix began the process fine but got stuck at 9% - timecode 00:12:18, as it happens.

Playing the .mkv on a 4K TV

Mkvtoolnix had created a 3.71 GB .mkv before freezing. I copied the file on an USB stick which I then inserted into a 2016 Samsung HDR 4K TV. Its internal mediaplayer recognized the .mkv as a valid playable file, and playing it switches the TV into HDR mode as it should. File plays perfectly until 00:12:18 where playback skips back to the beginning and resumes.

Playing the rip on a hardware mediaplayer

I copied the rip to a NAS, and attempted to play it on an Egreat A10 connected to the Samsung TV. The box offers a choice of Main Movie or Navigation, i.e. menus, once directory containing data is selected. Navigation option does not work; the box won’t display menus (despite manufacturer’s claims). Selecting Main Movie switches the TV into HDR mode and movie starts playing. Trying to skip to a timecode past 00:12:18 freezes playback.

Based on all the above I’d say the ripping was not a 100% success for some reason. I’ll install DeUHD on a Win10 box without Avast next for another try.

(I suspect the rip failed because I had run DeUHD in Trial mode earlier on the same PC, and activating it with a review key didn’t “take” due to a bug.)

Update: Running DeUHD on a Win10 box, time to completion reported as 7 and a half hours.


#5

[Rip attempt #2, on Win10]

Finished a rip of Miss Peregrine on a Win10 box. The process took almost 7 hours, the reason for that being a much slower CPU and/or the drive placed in an external enclosure.

Playing the rip now on DVDFab Media Player, on the Win10 box I used for ripping. DVDFab MP did not even try to display the menu and skipped directly to main title. It reports correct resolution, soundtrack (Atmos) and length for the movie. So far, so good.

[Several hours later…]

After quite a bit of experimentation I can say the rip was a complete success. Egreat A10 plays the rip from a NAS over a gigabit LAN, even though it’s once again unable to display disc menu. Choosing Main Movie instead of Navigation leads to A10 spending half a minute in a “Loading…” screen after which the movie starts playing, and triggers display’s HDR mode.

Mkvtoolnix took more than half an hour to make an .mkv of the movie. The resulting file, placed on a USB stick, plays without issues, in HDR, on a 2016 Samsung HDR 4K TV using its own media player app.

While Mkvtoolnix was making the .mkv, I tried to test DeUHD with Jack Reacher 2, a title which is listed as supported on the DeUHD website. A bit surprisingly DeUHD announced that the disc is not supported. I verified that my disc has the same audio and subtitles as the one listed on DeUHD website.


#6

Thanks for the review. Just to confirm, it sounds like your trial license works across multiple machines. Is this correct? I ask because, if there is a bug, I’d like to hop over to a VM. (I’m hoping to get a review license but it’s not confirmed yet.)


#7

I guess it works across multiple machines, yes. I did uninstall the Win7 one before installing on Win10 but I suppose that shouldn’t make a difference.

By VM I assume you mean Virtual Machine? I read somewhere that DeUHD employs a reverse-engineering protection which won’t allow it to run in a VM.


#8

Thanks, and yes, VM = Virtual Machine. I didn’t know about the VM protections but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s true. If that’s the case, all I can do is report on whether or not the rips on my physical box work. Still feedback for devs, I suppose.


#9

@colinhunt2017, thank so much for sharing your experiences. I have added a quote to our news item: https://www.myce.com/news/ultra-hd-blu-ray-copy-software-deuhd-really-work-crack-aacs-2-0-82631/ (and also a quote of you @philwashere :wink: )