DCIM RAM Disk just to play Jpgs?

A friend of mine has just bought a Panasonic 32inch LCD TV and a Panasonic DVD Player.

When they try to play a DVD+RW disk in the player to view jpgs on their TV nothing comes up.

So she went back to the shop who told her that Panasonic are different and that she needs to use a RAM disc. Also the photos have to be saved in DCIM format or TIFF. Then they contradicted this by saying that TIFF format does not work with Panasonic TVs.

Now this strikes me as a bit of garbled information because as far as I know DCIM is not a format it’s a folder type. There may be a DCIM suffix as a photo type but I’ve never seen it referring to anything but a folder on a Digital Camera or Memory Card.

What I’m also very confused about is what is a RAM disk. Surely that’s a hard disk type in a computer not a removable media like a DVD or CD?

There’s no way you can Convert .jpg photos or .tiffs into DCIM format as there doesn’t appear to be such a thing.

Does anyone know what the real format is that a Panasonic player prefers?
Its it Tiff format or not. Does she really need to use a DVD-R non re-recordable format and is this a problem of compatibility with the “trick” format of +R and +RW disks.

Surely this should only be a matter of converting all the Jpgs to a normal format the Panasonic accepts and then running that in the DVD player.

I’m sorry I don’t know the model numbers and can’t find out until they are back from holidays. It might be a DVD Recorder Hard Drive and Disk machine I’m not sure. I hope someone can answer this for me.
Many thanks

Plado

Hi and Welcome![QUOTE=Plado;2279824]
When they try to play a DVD+RW disk in the player to view jpgs on their TV nothing comes up.

So she went back to the shop who told her that Panasonic are different and that she needs to use a RAM disc.[/quote]:eek:

Also the photos have to be saved in DCIM format or TIFF. Then they contradicted this by saying that TIFF format does not work with Panasonic TVs.
Seems, the guys from the shop are clueless. Sorry for being that harsh.

Now this strikes me as a bit of garbled information because as far as I know DCIM is not a format it’s a folder type.
Not even that. It’s just the name many digital cameras use for the folders they store the pictures in. Could also be ABCD or WXYZ.

What I’m also very confused about is what is a RAM disk.
DVD-RAM.
Surely that’s a hard disk type in a computer not a removable media like a DVD or CD?
No, It is a removable media like CD or DVD. --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-RAM

Does anyone know what the real format is that a Panasonic player prefers?
What does the manual state?
It should mention what media and file formats are supported. Also it should mention, what restrictions apply.

Michael

Thanks very much for that.
I’ll advise the person to look in the manual for Supported types of Disc
and also for Format of files. I reckon it will require a DVD Ram type disc and probably accepts .tiff format or .raw or maybe .bmp

This must be looked up and verified. Meanwhile I’ll look in at my local supplier and see what DVD Ram discs cost compared to the usual DVD+R and +RW

I don’t even know if DVD Ram have also got the choices of write once -R and Re-writable -RW or the + equivalant - I have never seen them on sale before. I wonder why I’ve never noticed them? Perhaps they’re hard to find?

Thanks very much

Plado

[QUOTE=Plado;2280036]Thanks very much for that.
I’ll advise the person to look in the manual for Supported types of Disc
and also for Format of files. [/quote]Good idea :iagree:

I reckon it will require a DVD Ram type disc and probably accepts .tiff format or .raw or maybe .bmp
Requiring a DVD-RAM disc for pictures would be very odd. I think, normal CD or DVD media should work also.

As for the file formats, jpg and perhaps bmp should work. I doubt, tiff and raw is supported. Additionally, raw is not standardised, most camera manufacturers have their own raw format which is incompatible with raw formats of other camera manufacturers. So forget RAW.

Meanwhile I’ll look in at my local supplier and see what DVD Ram discs cost compared to the usual DVD+R and +RW
The price of DVD-RAM discs is about 4~5 times higher than the price of a DVD+R (or-R) here in Germany.

I don’t even know if DVD Ram have also got the choices of write once -R and Re-writable -RW or the + equivalant -
No. DVD-RAM is multiple Read/Write media. The only format options are 4.7Gb single sided or 9.4 GB double sided (the disc must be flipped). There is a cardridge and a non-cardridge vaiant. That’s all.
Edit: forgot the smaller 80 mm DVD-RAM discs that are used in some digital camcorders. They have roughly half the capacity.
You may have a look into the Wikipedia article I mentioned in my previous post.

I have never seen them on sale before. I wonder why I’ve never noticed them? Perhaps they’re hard to find?
They are often in the shelf of home entertainment consumables instead of the computer blank media shelf.

Michael

Many thanks indeed Mciahel for that comprehensive reply. You’ve given me all the information and ammo that I need to sort this person out.
I think they’ve misunderstood the information they were given.
After all they went home looking for ways to save a bunch of jpg files as DCIM format ! I thought this sounded fishy. I knew there was no such thing, but there was a Medical photos format that had a similar file suffix but it can’t be that.

So I’m going to tell the person to RTFM only in politer tones! And find out what format of disk this particular player is compatible with and then advise them to burn a pile of jpgs straight onto that.

It could be simply that the DVD +RW that she took into her Panasonic shop wouldn’t play on their machines, because the machine she tried it on, was one that doesn’t like +RW format and would prefer -RW or -R. I’m still mystified as to why the shop introduced a red herring into the advice by telling her about DCIM - and he even phoned his boss who confirmed that Panasonic Recorders/Players are different and they need DVD Ram disks.

I was very suspicious of this information.
I’ll report back here when the person is back from a short break in Devon. We’ll sort this out. Thanks again

The Panasonic was a DMR-EX769
Looking up the full specification on Panasonic’s UK site I see that it can play back
CD-R and -RW
But not the + disks
It can play back DVD-RAM and DVD-R (it didn’t mention DVD-RW)
The playback includes JPEG and MP3

Recording it can manage DVD-RAM DVD-R -RCD and -RW
Strangely it can record on DV+R and +RW

So the mystery is solved. You were all correct in your replies.
I wish I knew why shop staff in Retail outlets specialising in Panasonic product were properly trained in product knowledge a prerequisite for selling the things I would have thought.

Why my friend was told such a heap of garbage I really can’t fathom.

Thanks to all for your replies and help.

Plado

[QUOTE=Plado;2284027]The Panasonic was a DMR-EX769
Looking up the full specification on Panasonic’s UK site I see that it can play back
(…)

So the mystery is solved.
(…)
Thanks to all for your replies and help.
[/QUOTE]You’re very welcome :slight_smile:

Michael