Datasafe dvd-r 8x white printable Dye TDK for NEC 3500

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#1

hi guys
i am going to buy a large stock of these media.
I would like to know your experiences about them, if known, cause i don’t want to find myself with tons of dvd’s not not suitable for my drive.

Here some info, if you find useful:

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Media Code’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘Media Code’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 0Eh - Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In
0000 : 01 40 80 12 23 00 52 00 02 85 0d 0c 87 89 90 00 .@…#.R…
0010 : 03 54 54 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .TTG02…
0020 : 05 ba a3 22 32 20 02 00 06 09 0a 15 98 89 90 00 …"2 …
0030 : 07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 08 05 15 0c 0e 09 04 00 …
0040 : 09 96 05 0b 0b 78 88 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 10 00 …x…
0050 : 0b 09 18 14 97 88 85 00 0c b8 9a b8 83 00 30 00 …0.
0060 : 0d 00 00 d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

** INFO : Drive = HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4040B [FW A302]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+RW DVD+R
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-RW DVD-R DVD-RAM
** INFO : Disc = [DVD-R:TTG02]

** INFO : An Empty Writable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 2770 KBPS ( 2.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** INFO : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Properly Supported By Some Drives
Descriptor #1 = 2770 KBPS ( 2.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

as an alternative, I can get these
DATAWRITE TITANIUM DVD-R 8X CMC Dye

info:

00 AA 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 55 0D 0E …@…R…U…
88 9A 80 00 03 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 00 04 47 2E 20 …CMC MA…G.
41 45 31 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 09 0D 11 AE1…

Media color and text:
Silver Gray Datawrite 4.7GB General Purpose 8x DVD-R


#2

i have been using the MCC 02RG20 disks with my nec 3540 and i have had good results with them i have used the ttg02s with my pioneer 108 and they worked good
i have`nt used the cmc disks yet
the MCC 02RG20 are a good price from here just now

http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/acatalog/dvd-rprint.html

cheers bighun1952


#3

sorry but…which are the MCC of which you speak well???
the datasafe disks???
the links you gave me lead me to datasafe disks but they are CMC…


#4

Well, I’ve used in the past TDK branded TTG01, which is the 4x dye and they weren’t that good. They had rather poor “overcloking” potential, even they were original TDK branded …

So if you ask me, I don’t trust TTG dyes too much …

TDK actually uses about 3 different dyes: TTG0x, TTH0x and TDK0x. TDK0x and TTH0x seem to be better than TTG0x, but they are more difficult to find …

You also have to consider the fact that, you’re not buying a “premium” brand either, so Datasafe branded media won’t be as good quality as TDK branded media, even they both use the same dye!

I would suggest buying some 16x media instead, givien the drop in prices nowadays! MCC004 Verbatims seem to burn very well at 16x and you get a good brand at a good price too … or you can go for their DVD-R dye.

Check out SVP: www.blankdiscshop.co.uk … £8.48 for 25 discs is a pretty good price! They also have 16x Datawrites, and Ridiscs for £6.74, but given the small difference in price I would go for Verbatim!

On the DVD-R front they have:

Verbatim ‘Silver Top’ (16x) DVD-R in Spindle Tubs of 25
ADVInfo: MCC 03RG20
£8.48

Philips Branded 16x DVD-R in Spindle Tubs of 50
ADVInfo: MCC 03RG20
£17.99

CMC Unbranded 16x DVD-R in Spindle Tubs of 100
ADVInfo: TTH02
£29.99

The last one is quite cheap but I don’t know how good they are!

Also note that MCC004 (DVD+R) seems to burn better than MCC 03RG20 (DVD-R), so unless you have a good reason to go for DVD-R, get the DVD+R.

If you want Datawrite, the best thing to do is buy a spindle first and burn few random discs … see if they are reliable, before buying in large quantities!

Better safe than sorry!


#5

the ones are the datawrite titanium with the MCC 02RG20 dye on them 100 for £18:49


#6

thanks guys…
i have last question
qhat about these, which i can find at the same price of dvd-r??
Datasafe TITANIUM DVD+R 8X Prodisc Dye
I have never tryed the prodisk Dye…


#7

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?dvdmediadvdridsearch=PRODISC.R03%20


#8

I have some 8x DVD+R Datawrite Classic Yellows, using PRODISCR03 and I’m not impressed at all. The quality seems to vary from disc to disc … some (most) discs are good, as they should be, but there are some who give very high PIE (up to several hundreds) towards the end, even when written at 8x, and some even at 6x :sad: My pLEXTOR PX712A doesn’t like some of them either.

Now, the PRODISCR03 dye itself is excellent. I also have Intenso branded PRODISCR03, and they are excellent quality. They burn at 12x consistently (PX712A) and give me even better results than TY media on my pLEXTOR PX712A, and that should tell something since TY media is pLEXTOR’s best friend. I haven’t used them that much on my NEC3500, because in my experience the NEC strat is not quite as good as pLEXTOR’s for this particular dye. For best results you should use Dee’s modified FWs, which are way better than the original NEC or MD for this dye.

You can buy Intenso 8x DVD+R’s from http://www.cd-rmedia.co.uk. They are very cheap: £5.50 / 25pk!!!

Besides, I don’t like Datawrite/Datasafe too much … in my experience it is pretty much a lottery … you normally get what you pay for.

I also have some some 8x DVD-R FUJIFILM03 Datawrite Classic Greys … they’re OK at 8x but don’t expect miracles … you’ll get PIE around 40-80 in the 8x region … and the PIF seems to be a little too high for my taste in the 4x writing region (although the PIE is lower than 20 in this region).

So I’d stay away from Datawrite/Datasafe … they’re not the most reliable brand …


#9

i have been burning the datawrite titanium at 12 speed without one failed disk they have the MCC 02RG20 dye on them and it is very good with nec writers i don`t know why cvs is downing the datawrite/datasafe disks they were not as good a dye as the
MCC 02RG20 i also bought the datawrite greys with the fuji dye on them and i was not impressed with them but dyes get better and quality gets better with every new dye

  cheers  bighun1952