Ok people first thanks for your input.
here it goes,,,, It was a long night and very strange one, i used nero and went to recorder,,save tracks, and saved it as image.nrg and then tried to play it in, Jiao System, Ltd.MPEGPlayer
and it worked.
All other players didnt work just this one and after that i used iso buster and chose the option save raw but convert to user data.
with same rsult. and vcd gear helps allot to make the file usable to make a vcd. (not good thoght as the files were currpt in first place)
I think the media was fine problem was how they were burnt, and maybe the burning software and also the burner it self.
So much time spent on these vcd's for nothing:confused:
Thanks for all you nice people on the other side of the computer screen.