CopyToDVD desperately needs 12x write setting

vbimport

#1

I’ve noticed this is one major downfall of CopyToDVD. It has tons of write speed settings for CD write speeds, but has several gaps in DVD write speeds. It needs at least a 12x option built in, as it currently jumps from 8x, 16x, and max.

It is a very good burning program, but it’s really lacking this major feature. Currently, a lot of 16x rated media only burns at 12x and some 8x media on certain burners (NEC, Pioneer and Plextor to name a few) will ‘overburn’ at 12x. However, there are many times those same burners will take some 8x rated media and try to burn them at 16x–and this causes huge amounts of errors. Therefore, for people like me and other users to use PIE/PIF tests to judge the quality of the burn, we need that 12x option on CopytoDVD and fast. (I currently use this with 1clickdvdcopy.) I had emailed technical support, requesting this be built into the next version (I was hoping this new version 3.0.55 would include that), but now it seems it will have to perhaps be in the .56 version. Maybe other users would add their vote to this, so perhaps someone from VSO would take note and include this 12x option?


#2

If you read this, please vote! I have noticed 24 views (not adding mine), but there’s only 3 extra votes so far. If you’re reading this thread, it’s probably because you use CopytoDVD. Therefore, the more you vote, the more likely a VSO rep might come along and take notice. :slight_smile:


#3

Why not just use the speed selector in the CopyToDVD manager to change the writing speed, it will list all available writing speeds for the current media/writer including 6X and 12X.


#4

Under CD write speed only it supports 6x and 12x; under DVD write speed, no. I hoped I had misread the drop-down options, but alas, here’s the proof it does not currently support 6x and 12x writing for DVD media:



#5

I was refering to the speed selector in the CopyToDVD manager, see below.



#6

Oops…now I see it. However, I’ve never copied anything using the CTDVD Manager. I’ll follow the onscreen instructions to create DVD video (essentially making a copy of another DVD decrypted movie I have), but what should I set my DVD write speed under the writing devices tab to? Should I set that to max? Or will the setting on the Manager override that setting? Let me know–I’ll be waiting for your response. :iagree:


#7

but what should I set my DVD write speed under the writing devices tab to? Should I set that to max?
Set it to MAX.

Or will the setting on the Manager override that setting?
The manager will not override the speed setting in the CopyToDVD setttings app.
E.G. If you have 4X set as max writing speed for DVD media in the CopyToDVD settings app and then use the manager and try writing a DVD at 8x it will only write at 4X.


#8

Thanks, Portmac! I had thought I needed to set the speed under ‘writing devices’ to MAX, but wasn’t sure. So I set it that way and set the manager speed setting to 12x and it burned at 12x. :slight_smile: Thanks for the help!


#9

the manger is ok if you rip with one program and use that however program like one click dvd copy burn at max only so if 12x speed can not be set in the setting prog you have to rip cut the files and paste them someplace else and close out the program otherwise cancel will remove the files, nero record does the same thing. dvd fab express uses vso burning engine but you can set what speed to burn at


#10

It does involve an extra few steps, but I’m glad the ctdvd manager is there. All I have to do with 1clickdvdcopy is (after decoding), reauthor to a specified hard drive folder, close 1click, then open ctdvd manager, open the Video_TS files, then set the speed in the manager before pressing ‘write.’ I used it this last time and got a very nice 12x burn. :smiley:


#11

Also, if you have 1clickdvdcopy and copytodvd, if you backup an already decrypted or non-CSS movie to a HD folder, all you have to do is open the folder where the Video_TS files are (from the CopytoDVD Manager, after clicking “Movie and Pictures”>“Write DVD Video”>use the open dialog box to locate HD folder with Video_TS files), confirm all your files from the folder are in the CopyManager window, then set your burn speed (middle button at bottom of window), then click the DVD with a pencil above it (the write button) to backup your DVD. :wink:


#12

Portmac, can you help me with one other thing? What does the lead burn-in time in (ms) designed to do? I notice my Plextor px-716a adjusts it slightly each time with the same media. Also, is there any correlation between the amount of lead burn-in (ms) and how much faster or slower the burn speed is? It almost seems like the larger the lead burn-in time, the faster the burn (where it’s the same amount; the last two examples are the same–4.3 gb each). Here’s some logs from CTDVD that show the lead burn in time adjustment:

6/9/2005 11:06:53 AM info ********** Report session closed ***********
6/9/2005 11:06:49 AM info Write completed
6/9/2005 11:06:49 AM info Average speed x8.34 Reference x1 = 1385.00 kbps
6/9/2005 11:06:49 AM info Total burning time 00:06:27.187
6/9/2005 11:00:49 AM info Lead-in burning time (mS) 30430
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Starting write buffer
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Starting to write…
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Buffer under-run proof enabled
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Writing speed requested x12.0, effective x12.0
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Writing session #1 and closing disc.
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Open Image file “C:\Documents and Settings\Customer\Application Data\CopyToDvd\COPYTODVD_06092005_110018_453.cache”
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Required sector size : 2151104
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Available sector size : 2295104
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Available write speed: x16.0, x12.0, x8.0, x6.0, x4.0
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Media ID: YUDEN000-T02-00
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info 120mm DVD
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Detected media $001B: DVD+R
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Finished browsing files - Data size 4.1 Gb.
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Start Browsing file structures
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info IDE Controler manufacturer : Silicon Integrated System
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info IDE Controler Description : SiS PCI IDE Controller
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Location : PCI bus 0, device 2, function 5
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Supported Media: DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Writing device used: 1:0:0 - PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A 1.07 [E] (Ide)
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.28, Internal revision 28 - Async. Access mode
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Using DVD Video filelist creation mode.
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info ParamStr 4 = “/writespeed=12.0”
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info ParamStr 3 = “/writedevice=E”
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info ParamStr 2 = “/volumename=QuienDiablosEsJuliette”
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info ParamStr 1 = “/dvdvideofl=C:\PROGRA~1\VSO\COPYTO~1~c2c_fl.tmp”
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info ParamStr 0 = “C:\PROGRA~1\VSO\COPYTO~1\CopyToCd.exe”
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info Version 3.0.55.106
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info ExeName : “C:\PROGRA~1\VSO\COPYTO~1\CopyToCd.exe”
6/9/2005 11:00:18 AM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Personal Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
6/8/2005 10:38:05 PM info ********** Report session closed ***********
El crimen del Padre Amaro
6/8/2005 10:38:01 PM info Write completed
6/8/2005 10:38:01 PM info Average speed x8.43 Reference x1 = 1385.00 kbps
6/8/2005 10:38:01 PM info Total burning time 00:06:41.062
6/8/2005 10:31:47 PM info Lead-in burning time (mS) 30427
6/8/2005 10:31:17 PM info Starting write buffer
6/8/2005 10:31:17 PM info Starting to write…
6/8/2005 10:31:17 PM info Buffer under-run proof enabled
6/8/2005 10:31:17 PM info Writing speed requested x12.0, effective x12.0
6/8/2005 10:31:17 PM info Writing session #1 and closing disc.
6/8/2005 10:31:17 PM info Open Image file “C:\Documents and Settings\Customer\Application Data\CopyToDvd\COPYTODVD_06082005_223116_859.cache”
6/8/2005 10:31:17 PM info Required sector size : 2253344
6/8/2005 10:31:17 PM info Available sector size : 2295104
6/8/2005 10:31:17 PM info Available write speed: x16.0, x12.0, x8.0, x6.0, x4.0
6/8/2005 10:31:17 PM info Media ID: YUDEN000-T02-00
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info 120mm DVD
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info Detected media $001B: DVD+R
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info Finished browsing files - Data size 4.3 Gb.
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info Start Browsing file structures
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info IDE Controler manufacturer : Silicon Integrated System
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info IDE Controler Description : SiS PCI IDE Controller
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info Location : PCI bus 0, device 2, function 5
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info Supported Media: DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info Writing device used: 1:0:0 - PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A 1.07 [E] (Ide)
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.28, Internal revision 28 - Async. Access mode
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info Using DVD Video filelist creation mode.
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info ParamStr 4 = “/writespeed=12.0”
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info ParamStr 3 = “/writedevice=E”
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info ParamStr 2 = “/volumename=1ClickDvdCopy”
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info ParamStr 1 = “/dvdvideofl=C:\PROGRA~1\VSO\COPYTO~1~c2c_fl.tmp”
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info ParamStr 0 = “C:\PROGRA~1\VSO\COPYTO~1\CopyToCd.exe”
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info Version 3.0.55.106
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info ExeName : “C:\PROGRA~1\VSO\COPYTO~1\CopyToCd.exe”
6/8/2005 10:31:16 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Personal Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
6/8/2005 9:35:51 PM info ********** Report session closed ***********
Spiderman
6/8/2005 9:35:46 PM info Write completed
6/8/2005 9:35:46 PM info Average speed x8.43 Reference x1 = 1385.00 kbps
6/8/2005 9:35:46 PM info Total burning time 00:06:43.891
6/8/2005 9:29:30 PM info Lead-in burning time (mS) 30232
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Starting write buffer
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Starting to write…
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Buffer under-run proof enabled
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Writing speed requested x12.0, effective x12.0
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Writing session #1 and closing disc.
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Open Image file “C:\Documents and Settings\Customer\Application Data\CopyToDvd\COPYTODVD_06082005_212900_093.cache”
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Required sector size : 2255616
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Available sector size : 2295104
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Available write speed: x16.0, x12.0, x8.0, x6.0, x4.0
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Media ID: YUDEN000-T02-00
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info 120mm DVD
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Detected media $001B: DVD+R
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Finished browsing files - Data size 4.3 Gb.
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Start Browsing file structures
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info IDE Controler manufacturer : Silicon Integrated System
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info IDE Controler Description : SiS PCI IDE Controller
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Location : PCI bus 0, device 2, function 5
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Supported Media: DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Writing device used: 1:0:0 - PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A 1.07 [E] (Ide)
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.28, Internal revision 28 - Async. Access mode
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Using DVD Video filelist creation mode.
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info ParamStr 4 = “/writespeed=12.0”
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info ParamStr 3 = “/writedevice=E”
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info ParamStr 2 = “/volumename=1ClickDvdCopy”
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info ParamStr 1 = “/dvdvideofl=C:\PROGRA~1\VSO\COPYTO~1~c2c_fl.tmp”
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info ParamStr 0 = “C:\PROGRA~1\VSO\COPYTO~1\CopyToCd.exe”
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info Version 3.0.55.106
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info ExeName : “C:\PROGRA~1\VSO\COPYTO~1\CopyToCd.exe”
6/8/2005 9:29:00 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Personal Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
6/8/2005 9:28:38 PM info ********** Report session closed ***********
6/8/2005 9:28:36 PM info Drive not ready after getting the media free space - Code 02 3A 00 [NOT READY, no CD inserted]
6/8/2005 9:28:36 PM error Write process cancelled during media detection
6/8/2005 9:28:35 PM info Drive not ready - Code 02 3A 00 [NOT READY, no CD inserted]
6/8/2005 9:28:33 PM info Drive not ready - Code 02 3A 00 [NOT READY, no CD inserted]
6/8/2005 9:28:31 PM info Drive not ready - Code 02 3A 00 [NOT READY, no CD inserted]
6/8/2005 9:28:30 PM warning AUTOUPDATE : The update site is not reachable. (404 - can’t resolve hostname to IP address)
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info Initial state - TRAY CLOSED AND NO MEDIA IN DEVICE
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info Finished browsing files - Data size 4.3 Gb.
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info Start Browsing file structures
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info IDE Controler manufacturer : Silicon Integrated System
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info IDE Controler Description : SiS PCI IDE Controller
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info Location : PCI bus 0, device 2, function 5
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info Supported Media: DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info Writing device used: 1:1:0 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 1.20 [F] (Ide)
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.28, Internal revision 28 - Async. Access mode
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info Using DVD Video filelist creation mode.
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info ParamStr 3 = “/writedevice=F”
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info ParamStr 2 = “/volumename=1ClickDvdCopy”
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info ParamStr 1 = “/dvdvideofl=C:\PROGRA~1\VSO\COPYTO~1~c2c_fl.tmp”
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info ParamStr 0 = “C:\PROGRA~1\VSO\COPYTO~1\CopyToCd.exe”
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info Version 3.0.55.106
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info ExeName : “C:\PROGRA~1\VSO\COPYTO~1\CopyToCd.exe”
6/8/2005 9:28:29 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Personal Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)


#13

06/09/2005 12:48:33 PM info ********** Report session closed ***********
06/09/2005 12:48:30 PM info Write completed
06/09/2005 12:48:30 PM info Average speed x8.87 Reference x1 = 1385.00 kbps
06/09/2005 12:48:30 PM info Total burning time 00:06:28.313
06/09/2005 12:42:20 PM info Lead-in burning time (mS) 643
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Starting write buffer
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Starting to write…
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Buffer under-run proof enabled
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Writing speed requested x16.0, effective x6.0
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Writing session #1 and closing disc.
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Open Image file “C:\Documents and Settings\Alan
\Application Data\CopyToDvd\COPYTODVD_06092005_124159_359.cache”
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Required sector size : 2253376
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Available sector size : 2295104
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Available write speed: x16.0, x12.0, x8.0, x6.0, x4.0, x2.4
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Media ID: YUDEN000-T02-00
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Blank or incomplete DVD
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Detected media $001B: DVD+R
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Finished browsing files - Data size 4.3 Gb.
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Start Browsing file structures
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info IDE Controler manufacturer : Intel
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info IDE Controler Description : Intel® 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Supported Media: DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Writing device used: 1:1:0 - _NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW 1.UF [F] (Ide)
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.28, Internal revision 28 - Async. Access mode
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Using DVD Video creation mode.
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info ParamStr 5 = “/1C=4.2.0.9-D41D”
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info ParamStr 4 = “/volumename=DVD_VIDEO”
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info ParamStr 3 = “/dvdvideo=D:\My Works\1ClickDvdCopy\VIDEO_TS”
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info ParamStr 1 = “/writedevice=F”
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info ParamStr 0 = “C:\PROGRA~1\vso\COPYTO~1\CopyToCd.exe”
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info Version 3.0.49.88
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info ExeName : “C:\PROGRA~1\vso\COPYTO~1\CopyToCd.exe”
06/09/2005 12:41:59 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Personal Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)


#14

Lead in Burn time is the time measured in Ms that the media take to access the files on the hard drive. ms is milliseconds.


#15

ok, I get that part…but my question was how the lead burn-in time may or may not influence the burn speed, as my Plextor seems to alter it. As the lead burn-in time goes higher, the burn seems to get faster (my last two logs show the same amount of data–4.3 gb–but 2 seconds faster on the next burn, with 3 more milliseconds on the lead burn-in time. Maybe you might see if where you have the same amount of data to burn, if your lead burn-in time is adjusted on successive burns with the same media, and then post your findings here. Sound like a good idea? :confused:


#16

I have done that many times. With 16x+ media or even 8x+ media being recognized at 16x (Yuden000T02) on my NEC 35201UF the leadin burntime is the same ( 642) on my L. G. burner the same movie with the same media the leadin burn time is ( 2 ). It is the firmware that is reading the media ID and determining how fast to access the stored files on your hard drive.


#17

lead-in time is dependant of the burner and media used. it is nothing you can change. it can be the time for the burner to evaluate the quality of the media, and the best speed. it is not the time to access the files as it has been said before.


#18

Thank you for that explanation regarding the lead burn-in time, lapinou. :bigsmile:


#19

12x and 6x max DVD writing speeds have been added in the new version (3.0.56), in the settings under the “Writing Devices” tab.


#20

Please thank the VSO development team for that addition and their work, Portmac, and thank you personally for delivering this wonderful news to us. :slight_smile: Both your and VSO’s effort is much appreciated on behalf of us who use CopytoDVD. :clap: :wink: