Coasters with PX-740A and TYG01

ryangs 2005-08-10 22:57:16 UTC #1

I've got a stack of Taiyo Yuden G01's that I need to use up. I'm getting really frustrated because at least one out of every five that I try to burn with my new PX-740A ends up a coaster. When I get a coaster, it's always the same problem: a write error that occurs within the first minute of burning. Usually it occurs so early that there's barely a millimeter burned onto the disc.

This problem has occured in both Nero and DVD Decrypter. I am 99.9999% sure it's not buffer underrun error because a) I'm only burning at 4x, b) I haven't been doing other things at the same time, and c) this problem has continued despite a major hardware upgrade and format/reinstall of Windows. So I'm fairly sure it's a media problem. Why doesn't my 740A like TYG01's?

G11 2005-08-11 01:28:09 UTC #2

If the problem appears right after the burn has started it could very well indicate a system problem. Give us some details on your machine please, including drivers and hardware set-up. Do you receive any error messages and if so, please post your log-file here so we can have a look (remember to remove your serial if you post your Nero log-file).

Also, if you haven't done so already, try to upgrade the firmware of your drive to 1.01.

bulletx 2005-08-11 07:25:19 UTC #3

This is probably not much help, unless you flash your firmware to the BenQ 1640 (of which they are the same manufacture), but over on the BenQ/Philips forum on CDFreaks (http://club.cdfreaks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=92) is a long thread about a tool called MediaCodeSpeedEdit which allows the user to change the firmwares write strategies so that one may be able to burn an unsupported media more accurately by substituting its name for one already supported by the firmware. There is a thread (http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=124899) that has the results of using this tool to make substitutions for TYG01's and other MID's. Truely an ingenious response to lazy coding by the company for a variety of media that may be older but is still quite popular and prevalent!

Interestingly, there is no listing for media compatability for the 740A on the American website, but there is a (rather brief) listing on Plextor Europe (http://www.plextor-europe.com/technicalservices/technology/cdrmedia.asp?choice=Supported%20media). Taiyo Yuden DVD-R is on the recommended list. Point here is that either your media is bad or there is a hardware/software conflict, the latter being the more likely as you have Taiyo Yuden.

Like G@M3FR3@K says, start with the basics - what is your setup and any error messages produced? I would also make sure the drive was installed exactly as Plextor instructs as this can cause issues from the get go. Sometimes it is a component or piece of software (Roxio and Nero historically did not get along, although I don't know about nowadays.) nVidia IDE drivers have been reported to cause issues, although mine have not.

So don't give up hope...yet.

ryangs 2005-08-11 08:37:19 UTC #4

Here are the details on the two systems I've had the drive in:

Old system:
ABIT NF7-S 2.0 (nForce2) -- I didn't have the nVidia IDE drivers installed
Athlon XP 3200+
1GB PC3200 RAM
Samsung 160GB 7200RPM 8MB SATA HDD
Radeon 9600XT

New System:
Epox 9NPA Ultra (nForce4) -- I DO have the nVidia IDE drivers installed
Athlon 64 3000+
same ram
same hdd
Leadtek 6600GT

Both run Windows XP SP2, with the latest versions of DVD Decrypter and Nero 5.5. I upgraded the drive to 1.01 immediately, so I never tried 1.0 at all for comparison.

I'll post a nero logfile in a sec, after it happens again.

Thanks for your help so far!

bulletx 2005-08-11 10:41:14 UTC #5

ryangs:

Hate to belabor this point, but, is the plextor installed exactly as detailed in the manual, for example, as master on the secondary IDE channel using an 80 pin IDE data/ribbon cable with DMA set to 4? Also, I've read here that a badly fragmented drive or too little free space for burning can create bad burns, though I personally haven't experienced this. Additionally, I've read about issues with certain SATA motherboards. Plextor USA does not have SATA motherboard compatability list for the 740A up yet (http://www.plextor.com/english/support/support_compatability.html). Since your burner is not SATA, I'm not sure how this would affect you, but like anything else in a computer, it is suspect until proven innocent in my opinion.

I recall there were problems with certain versions of Nero that seem to be worked out with the latest 6.6.x version. Your version of nero may be part of the problem. Someone else could speak more intelligently about this on this forum. If the problem is due to software conflicts, a complete uninstallation of Nero and DVDEncryptor, and any other burning software, followed by installing only one back on the drive might do the trick. Of course, use the most recent version for best effect.

gary172 2005-08-11 11:55:29 UTC #6

The version 5.x of Nero was indeed buggy. The latest v6.x is very good when burning 'marginal' DVD media. I have had success beyond my expectations burning 'fake' TYG02 media at 12x. The same media burned using DVDDecrypter resulted in 3 out 4 being unplayable.

ryangs 2005-08-11 12:33:15 UTC #7

Hrm. Perhaps I should install the Nero 6 express that came with the Plextor. Still, I would think that I wouldn't be having problems with genuine Taiyo Yuden media. It's from Meritline... they won't sell me fakes, will they?

Here's a Nero log of a successful burn, followed by a failed one:


<name and serial>

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead
ero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 1/29/2003 9:37:36 PM 
Nero Version: 5.5.10.56
Recorder:             <PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-740A>  Version: 1.01 - HA 0 TA 0 - 5.5.10.56
 Adapter driver:      <nvatabus>                HA 0
 Drive buffer  :      2048kB
 Bus Type      :      default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM:               <JLMS     XJ-HD166S>      Version: DS14 - HA 0 TA 1 - 5.5.10.56
 Adapter driver:      <nvatabus>                HA 0
 Bus Type      :      default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral      : PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-740A        nvatabus Port 0 ID 0  DMA:  ? 
CdRomPeripheral      : JLMS XJ-HD166S                nvatabus Port 0 ID 1  DMA:  ? 
DiskPeripheral       : SAMSUNG SP1614C               nvatabus Port 1 ID 0  DMA:  ? 
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs: 
CmdQueuing     : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed     : 0
BUFE           : 0
Physical memory     : 1023MB (1048048kB)
Free physical memory: 606MB (621072kB)
Memory in use       : 40 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry    : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Enabled (1) 
Wizard: Off

11.8.2005
===== Disc-Copy over image - 1st step : Copy to image  ...
(omitted)

===== Disc-Copy over image - 2nd step : Burn the image ...

1:28:19 PM	#1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 115
	Reader running
	
1:28:19 PM	#2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 125
	Writer PLEXTOR  DVDR   PX-740A   running
	
1:28:19 PM	#3 IMAGEGEN -10 File ImageGen.cpp, Line 354
	Image was written as DAO.

	DAOI:
	MediaCatalogNumber=''
	TocType=0x00
	Finalized=0x01
	FirstTrack=0x01
	LastTrack=0x01
		ISRC=''
		Blocksize=2048:
		TrackMode='TRM_DATA_MODE1'
		TrackConfig=0x00:
		FirstIndex=00:
		LastIndex=01:
		Index0FilePos=0 Index1FilePos=307200 NextTrackFilePos=-728911872
	CUES:
	000: Ctrl=0x41 Trk=  0 (0x00) Index=00 RecDep=0x00 Start=954437:08.46 (     -150)
	001: Ctrl=0x41 Trk=  1 (0x01) Index=00 RecDep=0x00 Start=954437:08.46 (     -150)
	002: Ctrl=0x41 Trk=  1 (0x01) Index=01 RecDep=0x00 Start=00:00.00 (        0)
	003: Ctrl=0x41 Trk=110 (0xAA) Index=01 RecDep=0x00 Start=386:54.38 (  1741088)
	
1:28:19 PM	#4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3773
	Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
	
1:28:19 PM	#5 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 672
	Setup items (original item values)
	 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CD-ROM Mode1, ISO9660)
	    2 indices, index0 (150) provided
	    original CD pos #0 + 1741088 (1741088) = #1741088/386:54.38
	    relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/not required, patch infos 
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
1:28:21 PM	#6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 229
	Last possible write address on media:  2298495 (510:46.45)
	Last address to be written:            1741087 (386:54.37)
	
1:28:21 PM	#7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 234
	Write in overburning mode: FALSE
	
1:28:21 PM	#8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1703
	Recorder: PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-740A, Media type: DVD-R
	 Disc Manufacturer: TYG01 - 
	 Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
	
1:28:21 PM	#9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 824
	Prepare recorder PLEXTOR  DVDR   PX-740A   for write in cue-sheet-DAO
	DAO infos:
	==========
	MCN: 
	TOCTYPE: 0x0   Session Closed, CD fixated
	Tracks 1 to 1:
	   TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x0, ISRC "", FilePos 0 307200 -728911872


1:28:21 PM	#10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 672
	Setup items (after recorder preparation)
	 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CD-ROM Mode1, ISO9660)
	    2 indices, index0 (150) provided
	    original CD pos #0 + 1741088 (1741088) = #1741088/386:54.38
	    relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/not required, patch infos 
	    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1741088 blocks [PLEXTOR  DVDR   PX-740A  ]
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
1:28:21 PM	#11 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
	Burn process started at 4x (5,520 KB/s)
	
1:28:21 PM	#12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1978
	Verifying CD position of item 0 (relocatable, no CD pos, patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
	
1:28:21 PM	#13 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1323
	Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
	
1:28:21 PM	#14 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 19546
	Set BUFE: BURN-Proof -> ON 
	
1:28:21 PM	#15 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1437
	Start write address at LBA 0
	DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
	
1:28:21 PM	#16 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7933
	---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
	Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
	 Book Type: DVD-R   (2), Part Version: 5
	 Disc Size: 120 mm,      Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
	 Number of Layers: 1,    Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP),  Layer Type: recordable
	 Linear Density:         0,267 um/bit,  Track Density:  0,74 um/track
	 Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
	 End Physical Sector Number of Data Area:      0 h
	 End Sector Number in Layer 0:                 0 h
	 Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
	 Media Specific:
	      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	
1:39:58 PM	#17 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115
	<PLEXTOR  DVDR   PX-740A  > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1741088 (1A9120h), lenght 0 blocks
	
1:39:58 PM	#18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
	all writers idle, stopping conversion
	
1:40:39 PM	#19 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
	Burn process completed successfully at 4x (5,520 KB/s)
	
3:01:51 PM	#20 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 229
	Last possible write address on media:  2298495 (510:46.45)
	Last address to be written:            1741087 (386:54.37)
	
3:01:51 PM	#21 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 234
	Write in overburning mode: FALSE
	
3:01:51 PM	#22 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1703
	Recorder: PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-740A, Media type: DVD-R
	 Disc Manufacturer: TYG01 - 
	 Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
	
3:01:51 PM	#23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 824
	Prepare recorder PLEXTOR  DVDR   PX-740A   for write in cue-sheet-DAO
	DAO infos:
	==========
	MCN: 
	TOCTYPE: 0x0   Session Closed, CD fixated
	Tracks 1 to 1:
	   TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x0, ISRC "", FilePos 0 307200 -728911872
	
3:01:51 PM	#24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 672
	Setup items (after recorder preparation)
	 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CD-ROM Mode1, ISO9660)
	    2 indices, index0 (150) provided
	    original CD pos #0 + 1741088 (1741088) = #1741088/386:54.38
	    relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/not required, patch infos 
	    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1741088 blocks [PLEXTOR  DVDR   PX-740A  ]
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
3:01:51 PM	#25 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
	Burn process started at 4x (5,520 KB/s)
	
3:01:51 PM	#26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1978
	Verifying CD position of item 0 (relocatable, no CD pos, patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
	
3:01:51 PM	#27 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1323
	Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
	
3:01:51 PM	#28 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 19546
	Set BUFE: BURN-Proof -> ON 
	
3:01:51 PM	#29 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1437
	Start write address at LBA 0
	DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
	
3:01:52 PM	#30 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7933
	---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
	Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
	 Book Type: DVD-R   (2), Part Version: 5
	 Disc Size: 120 mm,      Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
	 Number of Layers: 1,    Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP),  Layer Type: recordable
	 Linear Density:         0,267 um/bit,  Track Density:  0,74 um/track
	 Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
	 End Physical Sector Number of Data Area:      0 h
	 End Sector Number in Layer 0:                 0 h
	 Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
	 Media Specific:
	      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	
3:03:59 PM	#31 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1447
	SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x026B0000
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
	Sense Code: 0x0C
	Sense Qual: 0x00
	CDB Data:   0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x6A 0x40 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x12 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00 
	
3:03:59 PM	#32 DVDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 333
	Write error
	
3:03:59 PM	#33 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
	all writers idle, stopping conversion
	
3:03:59 PM	#34 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 216
	conversion idle, stopping reader
	
3:03:59 PM	#35 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
	Burn process failed at 4x (5,520 KB/s)
	
3:03:59 PM	#36 Text 0 File Scsicmd.cpp, Line 406
	SCSI not using temporary buffers
	20 out of 20 temporary buffers allocated
	

Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers
vatabus.sys': Ver=5.10.2600.0518 built by: WinDDK, size=89856 bytes, created 2/11/2005 9:11:02 PM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

ryangs 2005-08-11 12:37:57 UTC #8

Here's a log of a failed burn from Nero 6, which I just installed:


<name and serial>

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 12:35:32 PM 
Nero Version: 6.6.0.8 (Nero Express)
Recorder:             <PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-740A>  Version: 1.01 - HA 0 TA 0 - 6.6.0.8
 Adapter driver:      <nvatabus>                HA 0
 Drive buffer  :      2048kB
 Bus Type      :      default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM:               <JLMS     XJ-HD166S       >Version: DS14 - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.6.0.8
 Adapter driver:      <nvatabus>                HA 0

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral      : PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-740A        nvatabus Port 0 ID 0  DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral      : JLMS XJ-HD166S                nvatabus Port 0 ID 1  DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral       : SAMSUNG SP1614C               nvatabus Port 1 ID 0  DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-740A     E:   CDRom0
JLMS XJ-HD166S             F:   CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs: 
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE           : 0
Physical memory     : 1023MB (1048048kB)
Free physical memory: 627MB (642524kB)
Memory in use       : 38 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry    : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0) 

11.8.2005
DVD-Copy on the fly
3:19:03 PM	#1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
	Reader running
	
3:19:03 PM	#2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
	Writer PLEXTOR  DVDR   PX-740A   running
	
3:19:03 PM	#3 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 279
	DVD Track-Information from source disc
	 S01 T01 Con 0x04 Start       0 Len 1741088 (gap       0) Blank 0 Res 0 Dmg 0 Open Trk 0 Mode TRM_DATA_MODE1 (0)
	
3:19:03 PM	#4 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 382
	Max -1 tracks of 1 allowed to copy
	 1:        0 -  1741088 =  1741088, TRM_DATA_MODE1, block size 2048, read opt 0 (no read options)
	
3:19:03 PM	#5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3153
	Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
	
3:19:03 PM	#6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 260
	Last possible write address on media:  2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
	Last address to be written:            1741087 (386:54.37, 3400MB)
	
3:19:03 PM	#7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 272
	Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
	
3:19:03 PM	#8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2339
	Recorder: PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-740A, Media type: DVD-R
	 Disc Manufacturer: TYG01 - 
	 Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
	
3:19:03 PM	#9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 438
	>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
	=========================================
	
3:19:03 PM	#10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
	Setup items (after recorder preparation)
	 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 - Data (mode 1))
	    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
	    original disc pos #0 + 1741088 (1741088) = #1741088/386:54.38
	    not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
	    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1741088 blocks [PLEXTOR  DVDR   PX-740A]
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
3:19:03 PM	#11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043
	Prepare recorder [PLEXTOR  DVDR   PX-740A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
	DAO infos:
	==========
	 MCN: ""
	 TOCType: 0x40; Session Closed, disc fixated
	 Tracks 1 to 1:
	   1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos             0             0    3565748224, ISRC ""
	DAO layout:
	===========
	 __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
	       0 |  lead-in |   0 |    0x41 | 0x00
	       0 |        1 |   0 |    0x41 | 0x00
	       0 |        1 |   1 |    0x41 | 0x00
	 1741088 | lead-out |   1 |    0x41 | 0x00
	
3:19:04 PM	#12 Phase 65 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
	Burn process started
	
3:19:04 PM	#13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2609
	Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
	
3:19:04 PM	#14 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2241
	Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
	
3:19:04 PM	#15 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21319
	Set BUFE: BURN-Proof -> ON 
	
3:19:04 PM	#16 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2387
	Start write address at LBA 0
	DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
	
3:19:04 PM	#17 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8430
	---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
	Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
	 Book Type: DVD-R   (2), Part Version: 5
	 Disc Size: 120 mm,      Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
	 Number of Layers: 1,    Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP),  Layer Type: recordable
	 Linear Density:         0,267 um/bit,  Track Density:  0,74 um/track
	 Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
	 End Physical Sector Number of Data Area:      0 h
	 End Sector Number in Layer 0:                 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
	 Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
	  Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
	  Start sector number of the next Border-In:     0 h
	 Media Specific [16..63]:
	      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	
3:21:21 PM	#18 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1435
	SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x032A0000
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
	Sense Code: 0x0C
	Sense Qual: 0x00
	CDB Data:   0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x35 0xC0 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x12 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00 
	
3:21:21 PM	#19 CDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
	Write error
	
3:21:21 PM	#20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
	all writers idle, stopping conversion
	
3:21:21 PM	#21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
	conversion idle, stopping reader
	
3:21:21 PM	#22 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2650
	EndDAO: Last written address was 13759
	
3:21:21 PM	#23 Phase 67 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
	Burn process failed
	

Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers
vatabus.sys': Ver=5.10.2600.0518 built by: WinDDK, size=89856 bytes, created 2/11/2005 9:11:02 PM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

zevia 2005-08-11 13:27:55 UTC #9

ryangs,

As far as I know, PX-740 fw 1.00 and 1.01, as well as BenQ 1640 up to the latest firmware BSJB DOES NOT have TYG01 writing strategy in the firmwares. Both drives, PX-740 and DW1640, barely support 4x media anymore, and this might cause the problem.

If the drive see a media which the ID is not in the firmware database it will use the DEFAULT writing strategy and does not always work nicely.

ryangs 2005-08-11 14:37:12 UTC #10

Yikes. Ridiculous. Are there any hacked BenQ firmwares that I could use which have TYG01 write strategies?

bulletx 2005-08-11 17:10:03 UTC #11

I guess you forgot my earlier post. You already had the keys to the kingdom in your pocket. In plain english, flash your drive to BenQ DW1640 and use the MediaCodeSpeedEdit to select a more harmonious write strategy. The BenQ DW1640 and the Plextor 740A, for all intents and purposes, are the same drive minus some proprietary firmware changes, branding and expense. Try looking at the threads that I posted links to in order to reap the benefit of someone else doing exactly what you want. Flashing the Plextor with another manufacturer's firmware, or hacked firmware, may result in your warranty being voided, so read and think before doing. Of course you could wait for Plextor to add this media to a future firmware update, hopefully. Also, you could always give/sell the remaining TYG01's to someone and get yourself some recommended media. Sucks but may be better option for you.

ryangs 2005-08-11 20:41:42 UTC #12

You're right, bulletx, I'm an idiot. I misread your earlier post, assuming my TYG01 was supported media, and that you were suggesting I could use a TYG01 write strategy with other media. :rolleyes: Yeah, I dunno what I was thinking.

But thanks, your info is really helpful. I will probably flash with the BenQ firmware and use MCSE because I don't feel like waiting for Plextor to fix their firmware.

Edit: Wow, looks like most people are having really good luck burning TYG01 as TYG02... at 12x no less! Excellent.

bulletx 2005-08-11 21:58:16 UTC #13

ryangs:

No problem. Your welcome. Yours was a good question. I learned something too. I ask all kinds of questions, most are pretty goofy and some are downright dumb. Occasionally there's a good one in the bunch. I think I spend way too much time in the forum!

I just received my BenQ DW1640, so I have a vested interest to learn as much as I can to compliment the Plextor 716A I already have. Each has their strengths and weaknesses... although the BenQ boys won't admit that. hehe!

Good luck with the TYG01 media and have fun with your new drive. I know I'm going to.

G11 2005-08-12 00:19:21 UTC #14

ryangs from your Nero log-file I see two things:

1.) DMA is not detected. This might not be a problem but I would suggest upgrading your nVidia drivers to the latest versions.
2.) Your doing an on-the-fly copy. Again, this shouldn't be a problem but when the source reader and destination writer are on the same IDE channel you're asking for problems. You should always copy from your hard disk to your recorder or at least make sure that the source drive and destination drive are on different channels.

Both items I mentioned should normally not result in the error you received but they're worth investigating!

ryangs 2005-08-12 10:01:39 UTC #15

Oh, I'm fully aware of the dangers of an on-the-fly copy.

The DMA bit is interesting, though. I'll have to look into that. The device manager says the drive is running at Ultra DMA 2... shouldn't it be UDMA4?

I also sent plextor tech support an email gently demanding they add a write strategy for TYG01. I'll see how that goes!

crossg 2005-08-12 10:22:35 UTC #16

The Px740/ BenQ1640 run at UDMA 2 AFAIK so that is correct. Like GF says get the newest chipset drivers or roll back your drivers to STD MS IDE drivers and see if it helps.

G11 2005-08-15 02:30:11 UTC #17

Yes, the PX-740A runs in UDMA mode 2 so that's correct. The Plextor PX-716A is the only Plextor drive that runs in UDMA mode 4. Let us know if the updated drivers make any difference!