CMC MAG M01 speed rating abnormality

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#1

I don’t understand it. I got a HP +R 16x LightScribe 25 disc cakebox with CMC MAG M01 inside. So far so good. I think every media should be from the same line. But why does the Nero CDSpeed tool give me the information some medias are 16x and some are 8x discs actually? I have the same problem in Nero itself. :a
The first screenshot is from a 16x CMC MAG M01 (already closed), the second is from a 8x one (still empty). :sad:


#2

It’s hard to say but by the looks of it you’re comparing apples and oranges. One disc is closed while the other is unwritten. While that may not explain it, have you tried comparing just empty media? My guess is that nero is giving you drive speed info not relative to the media by using the closed disc.

Although M01 is rated at 16x it’s common for many drives to burn much slower (two of my burners won’t burn this past 6x).


#3

Unfortunately I saved no screenshot but before I burned the disc Nero gave me the same info. The drive is able to burn one CMC MAG M01 with 16x and the other CMC MAG M01 with 8x on the same drive. And I burned the closed disc at 16x on this drive! That’s impossible in my opinion because both CMC MAG M01 have the same media code of course and are from the same batch! :confused:
BTW why is the physical format information different?


#4

New disc infos… Both discs are from the same cackebox, they have the same media code and I read them in the same drive. So why does that happen?




#5

In DVD Identifier every CMC MAG M01 looks the same… :eek:
So it has something to do with the drive/firmware only?



#6

This could have some similarities. In the BenQ 1650 BCIC firmware, CMC E01, CMCW04, RITEKW06, TDK701saku have two entries with two different speed ratings. MBI 01RG40 also has two entries but they have the same speed ratings.

Media Code Speed Edit V 1.0.9.3
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Firmware: BENQ    DVD DD DW1650   BCIC
Bootcode: 
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DVD Media Support Summary
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Total media codes          : 282
DVD+R media codes          : 106
DVD+RW media codes         :  18
DVD+R9 media codes         :  25
DVD-R media codes          :  90
DVD-RW media codes         :  39
DVD-R9 media codes         :   4

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DVD+R Media Codes (106)
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AML     -002-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
AML     -003-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
BeAll000-P40-00  [ 2.4x, 4x                                        ]
BeAll000-P80-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
BeAll000-PG0-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
CMC MAG -E01-00  [ 2.4x, 4x                                        ]
CMC MAG -E01-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
CMC MAG -F01-00  [ 2.4x, 4x                                        ]
CMC MAG -M01-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
DAXON   -AZ2-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
DAXON   -AZ3-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
DAXON   -CY3-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
DDDessau-V30-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
DIGVAL  -R01-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x                           ]
DT-D03  -004-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
Dvsn+160-001-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
EMDP    -000-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
EMDPAZ01-000-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x                           ]
FTI     -016-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
GSC502  -002-00  [ 2.4x, 4x                                        ]
GSC503  -H01-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
GSC503  -H01-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
GSC503  -H02-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
IMC JPN -R01-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
INFODISC-R20-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
INFOME  -R20-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
INFOME  -R30-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
IS01    -002-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
ISSM    -001-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
ISSM    -003-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x                           ]
KIC00000-S80-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
LD      -M04-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
LD      -S03-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
LD      -S04-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
LGEP16  -001-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
LONGTEN -002-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
MAM     -M02-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
MAM     -M04-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x                           ]
MAXELL  -001-00  [ 2.4x, 4x                                        ]
MAXELL  -002-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
MAXELL  -003-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
MBIPG101-R03-00  [ 2.4x, 4x                                        ]
MBIPG101-R04-01  [       4x,     8x                                ]
MBIPG101-R05-01  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
MCC     -002-00  [ 2.4x, 4x                                        ]
MCC     -003-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
MCC     -004-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
MICRON  -002-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
MJC     -003-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
MJC     -005-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
MPOMEDIA-080-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
MUST    -002-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
MUST    -006-02  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
NAN YA  -FLX-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
NANYA   -ALX-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
NANYA   -CHX-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
NANYA   -CLX-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
NSD     -R40-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
OPTODISC-F16-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
OPTODISC-OR8-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
OPTODISC-R16-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
Philips -081-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
PHILIPS -C08-00  [ 2.4x, 4x                                        ]
PHILIPS -C08-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
PHILIPS -C16-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
PHILIPS -C16-01  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
Plasmon1-C01-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
Plasmon2-C01-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
POS     -R01-00  [ 2.4x, 4x                                        ]
POS     -R01-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
POS     -R05-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
PRODISC -R03-03  [       4x,     8x                                ]
PRODISC -R04-04  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
PRODISC -R05-01  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
RICOHJPN-R01-02  [ 2.4x, 4x                                        ]
RICOHJPN-R02-03  [       4x,     8x                                ]
RICOHJPN-R03-04  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
RITEK   -F16-01  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
RITEK   -M02-01  [ 2.4x, 4x                                        ]
RITEK   -P16-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
RITEK   -R02-01  [ 2.4x, 4x                                        ]
RITEK   -R03-01  [       4x,     8x                                ]
RITEK   -R03-02  [       4x,     8x                                ]
RITEK   -R04-01  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
RITEK   -R05-01  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
SAST    -A01-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x                           ]
SKC     -P16-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x                           ]
SKC     -P80-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
SKYMEDIA-R03-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
SONY    -D11-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
SONY    -D21-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
TDK     -002-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
TDK     -003-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
ULTRAN  -202-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
ULTRAN  -212-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
VANGUARD-001-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
VDSPMSAB-002-01  [       4x,     8x                                ]
VDSPMSAB-004-01  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
VIVA    -002-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
WFKA11  -211-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
WFKA11  -321-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
WINGSHIN-001-31  [       4x,     8x                                ]
Yi Jhan -004-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]
YUDEN000-T01-01  [ 2.4x, 4x                                        ]
YUDEN000-T02-00  [       4x,     8x                                ]
YUDEN000-T03-00  [       4x,     8x, 12x, 16x                      ]

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DVD+RW Media Codes (18)
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CMC MAG -W01-00  [ 2.4x                                            ]
CMC MAG -W03-00  [           6x, 8x                                ]
DAXON   -W81-00  [           6x, 8x                                ]
INFODISC-A01-02  [ 2.4x                                            ]
MBIPG101-W03-00  [ 2.4x                                            ]
MBIPG101-W05-00  [           6x, 8x                                ]
MCC     -A01-00  [ 2.4x                                            ]
MKM     -A03-00  [           6x, 8x                                ]
OPTODISC-OP8-00  [           6x, 8x                                ]
PHILIPS -010-01  [ 2.4x                                            ]
PHILIPS -RW8-00  [           6x, 8x                                ]
PHILIPS -RW8-03  [           6x, 8x                                ]
PRODISC -W01-02  [ 2.4x                                            ]
RICOHJPN-W21-01  [           6x, 8x                                ]
RITEK   -001-01  [ 2.4x                                            ]
RITEK   -004-30  [ 2.4x, 4x                                        ]
RITEK   -008-00  [           6x, 8x                                ]
SONY    -S21-00  [           6x, 8x                                ]

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DVD+R9 Media Codes (25)
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CMC MAG -D01-00  [ 2.4x                                            ]
CMC MAG -D02-00  [ 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x                                ]
CMC MAG -D03-40  [ 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x                                ]
CMC MAG -D04-00  [ 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x                                ]
FUJIFILM-FR1-00  [ 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x                                ]
INFOME  -D01-00  [ 2.4x                                            ]
KIC00000-D20-00  [ 2.4x                                            ]
MBIPG101-R10-41  [ 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x                                ]
MKM     -001-00  [ 2.4x                                            ]
MKM     -001-00  [ 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x                                ]
MKM     -003-00  [ 2.4x                                            ]
MKM     -003-00  [ 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x                                ]
PHILIPS -CD2-00  [ 2.4x                                            ]
PHILIPS -PD2-00  [ 2.4x                                            ]
PRODISC -D01-00  [ 2.4x                                            ]
RICOHJPN-D00-01  [ 2.4x                                            ]
RICOHJPN-D01-02  [ 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x                                ]
RICOHJPN-D01-43  [ 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x                                ]
RITEK   -D01-01  [ 2.4x                                            ]
RITEK   -D03-01  [ 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x                                ]
RITEK   -D03-82  [ 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x                                ]
RITEK   -S04-01  [ 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x                                ]
RITEK   -S04-42  [ 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x                                ]
RITEK   -X01-01  [ 2.4x                                            ]
RITEK   -X08-01  [ 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x                                ]

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DVD-R Media Codes (90)
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0000-TPC16A1-  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
BeAll G16001-  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
BeAll G80001-  [         4x,     8x                     ]
CMC MAG. AE1-  [         4x,     8x                     ]
CMC MAG. AM3-  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
DAXON008S   -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
DAXON016    -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
DAXON016S   -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
DDTRG003    -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
DKMZ01      -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
Dvsn-80     -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
FTI RG16    -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
FUJIFILM03  -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
FUJIFILM04  -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
GSC003      -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
GSC004      -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
GSC005      -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
GSC006      -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
IMC JPN R01 -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
INFODISC-R20-  [         4x,     8x                     ]
INFOMEDIAR20-  [         4x,     8x                     ]
INFOMEDIAR30-  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
INFOSMART03.-  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
ISSM    R02 -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
ISSM R01    -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
KDTTC1-TPCP2-  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
KDTVVV      -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
KIC01RG160  -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
LEADDATA S03-  [         4x,     8x                     ]
LEADDATA S04-  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
LGE08       -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
LGE16       -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
LONGTEN 003 -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
MAM8XG01    -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
MAMSXG01    -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
MBI 01RG40  -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
MBI 01RG40  -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
MBI 03RG30  -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
MBI 03RG40  -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
MBI03RG30   -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
MCC 02RG20  -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
MCC 03RG20  -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
MJC M005    -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
MJC ME      -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
MUST 003    -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
MUST 007    -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
MXL RG03    -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
MXL RG04    -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
NAN YA A01  -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
NAN YA F02  -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
NSDR40      -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
OPTODISCR008-  [         4x,     8x                     ]
OPTODISCR016-  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
Plasmon1A   -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
Plasmon2A   -  [         4x,     8x, 12x                ]
POMS3A      -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
POMSI002    -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
POSG06      -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
POSG08      -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
PRINCO8X02  -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
PRINCORGM1  -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
ProdiscF01  -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
ProdiscF02  -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
ProdiscS04  -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
ProdiscS05  -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
RITEKF1     -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
RITEKG05    -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
RITEKG06    -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
RITEKM16    -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
SAST100     -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
SKC M801    -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
SONY08D1    -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
SONY16D1    -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
TAROKO-MX8  -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
TCLDS01     -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
TMI003      -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
TTG02       -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
TTH01       -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
TTH02       -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
TYG02       -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
TYG03       -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
ULTRAN102   -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
UME01       -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
UME02       -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
VANGUARD01  -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
VDSPMSAB 04 -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
WFI A16002  -  [         4x,     8x, 12x, 16x           ]
WFI A80001  -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
WINGSHING08 -  [         4x,     8x                     ]
Yi Jhan 003 -  [         4x,     8x                     ]

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DVD-RW Media Codes (39)
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CMCW02      -  [     2x                                 ]
CMCW03      -  [     2x, 4x                             ]
CMCW04      -  [         4x                             ]
CMCW04      -  [             6x                         ]
DAXON_RW2X01-  [     2x                                 ]
INFOMEDIA   -  [     2x                                 ]
INFOMEDIAA20-  [     2x, 4x                             ]
JVC/VictorT7-  [ 1x                                     ]
JVC0VictorD7-  [     2x, 4x                             ]
JVC1Victord7-  [         4x                             ]
JVC1Victord7-  [             6x                         ]
JVC_VictorW7-  [     2x                                 ]
MBI01RWG 20 -  [     2x, 4x                             ]
MCC 00RW11N9-  [ 1x                                     ]
MCC 01RW11n9-  [     2x                                 ]
MCC 01RW4X  -  [     2x, 4x                             ]
MKM 01RW6X01-  [         4x                             ]
MKM 01RW6X01-  [             6x                         ]
OPTODISCK001-  [ 1x                                     ]
OPTODISCW002-  [     2x                                 ]
OPTODISCW004-  [     2x, 4x                             ]
OPTODISCW006-  [             6x                         ]
PRINCO      -  [ 1x                                     ]
PRINCO      -  [     2x                                 ]
PRINCORW0004-  [     2x, 4x                             ]
PRINCORW2X01-  [     2x                                 ]
Prodisc DW04-  [     2x                                 ]
Prodisc DW06-  [     2x, 4x                             ]
ProdiscDVDRW-  [ 1x                                     ]
RITEK000V11A-  [ 1x                                     ]
RITEKW01    -  [     2x                                 ]
RITEKW04    -  [     2x, 4x                             ]
RITEKW06    -  [         4x                             ]
RITEKW06    -  [             6x                         ]
SONY000000U9-  [ 1x                                     ]
TDK502sakuM3-  [     2x                                 ]
TDK601saku  -  [     2x, 4x                             ]
TDK701saku  -  [         4x                             ]
TDK701saku  -  [             6x                         ]

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DVD-R9 Media Codes (4)
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CMC MAG. AD4-  [     2x, 4x                             ]
MKM 01RD30  -  [     2x, 4x                             ]
ProdiscDR24 -  [     2x, 4x                             ]
RITEKP01    -  [     2x, 4x                             ]


#7

How does the drive distinguish between the two CMC MAG -E01??? In there something in the firmware and in the media code which shoes not up in our tools? There must be more information regarding the media code otherwise it wouldn’t make sense to have the same media code twice in the firmware with different speed settings… Anyone?


#8

Re-insert the 4x-8x rated disk and let the drive re-calculate the info.


#9

Actually I would have expected that different revisions of CMC MAG E01 are on the market, but I’m not sure as I haven’t used much of those - also this list doesn’t show any revisions.
Just an example: There’s both YUDEN000-T01-000 (TS…) and YUDEN000-T01-001 (TC…) and the 001 variant can be overspeeded to 8x by some drives.


#10

I tried that, I get always the same info! I think there is no error. I can insert the 8x disc twenty times but it stays at 8x. The same happens with the 16x disc, it never happens it’s recognized as a 8x media. :doh:


#11

Yeah, that’s the point, both CMC MAG M01 show the same revision: 000(00)


#12

are the serial numbers all consecutive ?


#13

I bought a 100 pack of TDKs that are this exact media code and i must say i am not impressed with them AT ALL. My BenQ 1655 burn them alright but i HAVE to burn them at 4x or else the PIF’s are going to look like wild fire. This is a thread about that media and the 1655 but i dont think it will help you with your problem. How i would answer your question is that the media is just crap, at least that has been my experience with M01


#14

TDK’s CMC MAG M01 is not A-grade quality anyway (additionally to the quality inconsistencies of this media in general), so no surprise.


#15

What/where is the serial number on the disc? There are three numbers. One code is easy to read, it is identical on all discs. The other two codes are hardley readable.