Cloning PS3 HDD's

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#1

Has anyone actually attempted to use a HDD cloning program on a PS3 HDD, and then writing the image to a new HDD?

Although people will suggest “Google” the concept seems to be dominated by morons which are dragging “FAT32” into the conversation - Nuff said :stuck_out_tongue:

I’d expect the PS3 uses a proprietary Filesystem that is somehow encrypted by the PS3 … so will cloning a HDD work (if the new HDD is inserted into the same PS3), or is it likely the encryption key is somehow based on the HDD’s serial number?

Anyone know the answer to this one?


#2

You won’t be able to clone it due to Sony’s proprietry file system on the ps3. Unless the programmers know how the file system works we won’t be seeing any cloning software for the ps3.

You will however be able to connect a fat or fat32 formatted hdd to the usb port via an external enclosure and go into the ps3’s system settings and choose “back up”. It will ask where to save all your data like games and so on, Then select the external hdd. Then you can install your new hdd to the ps3 select format from the ps3 menu then restore the back up :wink:


#3

Aye … that little 40GB HDD got backed up to a 16GB flash drive first.
It’s amazing that 15GB of the HDD was actually taken up by the sony system software.

Good thing I backed up too, it warns you before you format the new HDD that you will not be able to reinstall you old HDD and use it again, well you can, but you have to format it and start again :stuck_out_tongue:

But of course that’s after it tells you it can’t boot because the system drive needs formatting, and that you must provide the latest firmware (at least 2.42) via a usb drive … then it format your drive, reinstalls the firmware, then you do a basic setup, and then you have to restore all your settings, users, movies, game save data & etc…

Installing 2.5" HDD -> 2 minutes.
Actual Mucking around time (time you can’t use your PS3) -> 4 hours :stuck_out_tongue:

Now, time to hook up that old PS3 HDD & see what linux thinks about it :wink:


#4

[QUOTE=debro;2136175]Aye … that little 40GB HDD got backed up to a 16GB flash drive first.
It’s amazing that 15GB of the HDD was actually taken up by the sony system software.

Good thing I backed up too, it warns you before you format the new HDD that you will not be able to reinstall you old HDD and use it again, well you can, but you have to format it and start again :stuck_out_tongue:

But of course that’s after it tells you it can’t boot because the system drive needs formatting, and that you must provide the latest firmware (at least 2.42) via a usb drive … then it format your drive, reinstalls the firmware, then you do a basic setup, and then you have to restore all your settings, users, movies, game save data & etc…

Installing 2.5" HDD -> 2 minutes.
Actual Mucking around time (time you can’t use your PS3) -> 4 hours :stuck_out_tongue:

Now, time to hook up that old PS3 HDD & see what linux thinks about it ;)[/QUOTE]
I have upgraded my PS3 HDD to a 7200 Samsung 200Gb SATA3.0 drive. I did not backup to another drive, as who has a 60Gb drive lying around. I found that you can Clone the drive-2-drive as long as you perform a bit-by-bit copy.

I used HDClone, which has a FREE version, but runs slower than the pay for versions. Will take about 4 hours to copy 60Gb bit-by-bit. But about 45mins if you use the pay for version. At the end of the copy it will ask if you want to resize the partion automatically, which I did as it is a bigger drive. Popped the NEW drive in the PS3 and powered on. Worked straight away, to my surprise.

Also, I removed the SATA 1.5 limiting pin from the drive to allow the PS3 to auto detect the SATA 1.5/3.0, but I believe that the connection is only SATA 1.5.

Any one else has a better way, let everyone know.

Stephen Edworthy


#5

Hi Stephen,

Can you please explain to me exactly how you have done this because I have had an issue with my PS3 breaking down and I have a 40gb HDD and a functional PS3 but am unable to transfer my data for the obvious reasons (attempts to format hard drive when put in new PS3, cannot simply transfer using a caddy).

Genuinely I have been searching for an answer to this problem for about a month, stalking all forums to try only to see everyone saying it is impossible but seemingly you have the answer!

I have a 250 hr long game of Oblivion and a 50 hr long game of Final Fantasy 8 that I don’t want to lose (I know I am sad!), using the method you described in cloning the HD would all my saved games be functional?

I will be so grateful if you could get back to me about this as I have been pulling my hair out about it!!

Cheers,

Mike


#6

[QUOTE=MikeyM1986;2185686]Hi Stephen,

Can you please explain to me exactly how you have done this because I have had an issue with my PS3 breaking down and I have a 40gb HDD and a functional PS3 but am unable to transfer my data for the obvious reasons (attempts to format hard drive when put in new PS3, cannot simply transfer using a caddy).

Genuinely I have been searching for an answer to this problem for about a month, stalking all forums to try only to see everyone saying it is impossible but seemingly you have the answer!

I have a 250 hr long game of Oblivion and a 50 hr long game of Final Fantasy 8 that I don’t want to lose (I know I am sad!), using the method you described in cloning the HD would all my saved games be functional?

I will be so grateful if you could get back to me about this as I have been pulling my hair out about it!!

Cheers,

Mike[/QUOTE]

Hi Everyone!

I’m glad I found this forum because that is my problem exactly… I have a 60GB PS3 it’s bricked (Yellow Light of Death reached it…) I figured out that It was a problem with the motherboard. So I can’t turn it on, but I really need my saved games! So if anyone have some sort of solution plz reply.

Thanks in advance.


#7

Was there ever more detail posted on Stephen’s solution above? I really need the exact same help the other folks do. My PS3 got the YLOD, and I have to send it in. I would like to clone the drive to another drive first in case Sony wipes it in the process of fixing it.


#8

[QUOTE=geewil;2290843]Was there ever more detail posted on Stephen’s solution above? I really need the exact same help the other folks do. My PS3 got the YLOD, and I have to send it in. I would like to clone the drive to another drive first in case Sony wipes it in the process of fixing it.[/QUOTE]
All information has been posted above. A big thank you to Stephen for advising bit-copy is possible.

It’s doubtful that anyone has confirmed this.

I might try it, going from a 320GB back to the original 40GB HDD, first backing up everything worthy & cleaning out any downloads.

[QUOTE=Endru;2194742]Hi Everyone!

I’m glad I found this forum because that is my problem exactly… I have a 60GB PS3 it’s bricked (Yellow Light of Death reached it…) I figured out that It was a problem with the motherboard. So I can’t turn it on, but I really need my saved games! So if anyone have some sort of solution plz reply.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Stephen has already posted a possible solution. Have you tried it?

Given that the PS3 generally wipes any unprepared HDD (and invalidates the previous HDD as well), and that it uses no file system recognisable by common Operating Systems (including linux), I guess a bit-wise copy is the only real solution for now, unless Sony releases information concerning the OS, which is unlikely - Sony rarely even release new firmware for their burners … which is common practice.


#9

As this seems to be quite a prominent result off the back of a Google search on the subject, I thought I would post an update with my own results.

Having lost my original B/C 60gig PS3 to a YLOD recently, I was faced with the prospect of losing all of my save games; not the end of the world I agree, but considering the amount of time and effort they have taken (Oblivion and Fallout 3 for example); I didn’t relish the thought of re-playing huge amounts of gameplay I had seen before.

Many hours were spent searching for a way to save my games, as my console would not even power on (it would simply spin the fan for a second then shut off with three beeps), and the best solution was found in this very thread!

Now, I have followed the expect process the Stephen suggested and sadly, can confirm it does not work for my situation :frowning:

I used HDclone to bit-by-bit copy from the old 60gig drive onto a 120gig from a new Slim, but when I plugged the 120 into the Slim it forces a reformat; so even if HDC did copy everything ok, the PS3 wipes it all out again.

It would seem that the copy protection Sony have implemented means if you’re unlucky enough to have a non-starting PS3, thus cannot use the internal backup, you’re screwed and will lose the contents of you drive; sure you can indeed re-download everything from PSN, but saves are lost for good!

So for anyone thinking there’s a way of getting your files off, I’m currently not aware of a method; we will just have to wait for the hackers out there to break in encryption…


#10

[QUOTE=TheScortUK;2471551]As this seems to be quite a prominent result off the back of a Google search on the subject, I thought I would post an update with my own results.

Having lost my original B/C 60gig PS3 to a YLOD recently, I was faced with the prospect of losing all of my save games; not the end of the world I agree, but considering the amount of time and effort they have taken (Oblivion and Fallout 3 for example); I didn’t relish the thought of re-playing huge amounts of gameplay I had seen before.

Many hours were spent searching for a way to save my games, as my console would not even power on (it would simply spin the fan for a second then shut off with three beeps), and the best solution was found in this very thread!

Now, I have followed the expect process the Stephen suggested and sadly, can confirm it does not work for my situation :frowning:

I used HDclone to bit-by-bit copy from the old 60gig drive onto a 120gig from a new Slim, but when I plugged the 120 into the Slim it forces a reformat; so even if HDC did copy everything ok, the PS3 wipes it all out again.

It would seem that the copy protection Sony have implemented means if you’re unlucky enough to have a non-starting PS3, thus cannot use the internal backup, you’re screwed and will lose the contents of you drive; sure you can indeed re-download everything from PSN, but saves are lost for good!

So for anyone thinking there’s a way of getting your files off, I’m currently not aware of a method; we will just have to wait for the hackers out there to break in encryption…[/QUOTE]

The method using “HDClone 4 Free Edition” works like a charm. I was able to clone a 60gb sata drive to my new 128GB SSD Torqx patriot drive to eliminate some of the heat issues with the ps3 cechxx series (4 usb ports) that I have. I just created a boot-able DVD turned off my pc and unplugged all other drives from my pc to insure that I would write over anything that wasn’t supposed to to get removed and poof. The process took 35 minuets and all I had to do is pop it in the PS3 and every game worked better and faster then before with less noise. Try it put.


#11

[QUOTE=Nunol37;2572720]The method using “HDClone 4 Free Edition” works like a charm. I was able to clone a 60gb sata drive to my new 128GB SSD Torqx patriot drive to eliminate some of the heat issues with the ps3 cechxx series (4 usb ports) that I have. I just created a boot-able DVD turned off my pc and unplugged all other drives from my pc to insure that I would write over anything that wasn’t supposed to to get removed and poof. The process took 35 minuets and all I had to do is pop it in the PS3 and every game worked better and faster then before with less noise. Try it put.[/QUOTE]My guess would be (I currently don’t have working PS3 to test due to YLOD), that if upgrading a drive in one system, it works; but moving (cloning) from one system to another, is does not.

Has anyone moved a drive from one system to another?