CloneDVD: Won't fit on disc?

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#1

Copied a DVD “From Paris With Love” using AnyDvd and CloneDvd…all settings as usual…so DL to a 4.7GB SL (Verbatim etc)

but got a message that it wouldn´t fit on the disc. Never had this happen before. The Video TS folder is 4.36GB

Weird…any ideas why this won´t fit?
Can I delete any of the sub-files without screwing up the playback to make the package a bit smaller?
Or compress it further with maybe DVDShrink or edit it Nero?

:confused:


#2

A bad media glitch or it wasn’t set to sl but remained on dl setting? Without seeing each screen shot that you went from beginning to end it is hard to know what might be going on. I never had any problem with Anydvd HD and CloneDVD going from DL to SL media of any brand without problem…


#3

[QUOTE=deanimator;2538078]Copied a DVD “From Paris With Love” using AnyDvd and CloneDvd…all settings as usual…so DL to a 4.7GB SL (Verbatim etc)

but got a message that it wouldn´t fit on the disc. Never had this happen before. The Video TS folder is 4.36GB

Weird…any ideas why this won´t fit?
Can I delete any of the sub-files without screwing up the playback to make the package a bit smaller?
Or compress it further with maybe DVDShrink or edit it Nero?

:confused:[/QUOTE]

Don’t forget also that in general a lot of DVD processing software measures disc capacity in GiB (gibibytes) whereas disc manufacturers like to use GB since it sounds better so the maximum capacity of 4.7GB is equivalent to 4.37GiB.

It’s a bit strange that CloneDVD hasn’t compressed that fully enough but things like that can happen in rare instances due to encoder saturation.

I don’t actually use CloneDVD so I can only really advise in general terms.

Are there settings in CloneDVD that allow you to specify the default output size?

If so change it to 4440MB.

Recompressing will work but is not recommended for quality reasons.

There are other ways of getting this to fit without recompressing and I can recommend options but not in this sub-forum.

If you’d like me to move this thread so we can discuss this further though just ask.

[B]Wombler[/B]


#4

[QUOTE=deanimator;2538078]
Can I delete any of the sub-files without screwing up the playback to make the package a bit smaller?
Or compress it further with maybe DVDShrink or edit it Nero?

:confused:[/QUOTE]

Yes, you can remove all undesired stuff like foreign languages (mostly DTS ones that can consume a lot of disc space and are pretty useless if you don’t have a dedicated audio system).

Usually subtitles use very few space, so there will be no difference if you keep or remove them.

Another thing you can do is remove everything but the main movie if you are not interested in menus or in extra contents.

I suggest to not use both software to do a compression. Results can be disappointing because compression algorithms are different.

If you want to keep the movie only, I suggest to use DVD Shrink (it has a more intuitive interface for this in my opinion). If you want keep menus and extra contents, then I suggest to use clonedvd, because is more updated.

Actually, DVD Shrink is a bit more flexible if you want to keep also extra contents and menus, because you can set manually the amount of compression to each file. in this way, you can apply a higher amount of compression to menus and to trailers, so there will be more space left on the disc and a lesser compression will be needed for the main movie (that should be the most important part of the disc :bigsmile:)

Finally, there is another alternative: with cloneDVD you can also split the movie into two discs keeping all menus and extra contents. I never did this, but I know for sure that is possible. Maybe [B]Kerry56[/B] or [B]Alan1476[/B] can say you more in detail how to do this :slight_smile:


#5

I would give AnyDvd and CloneDvd another try.This time make sure DVD-5 is selected.
I think it was maybe a glitch.I usually get 4.35 GB with AnyDvd and CloneDvd for a SL compression size.
If this doesn’t work you could try DVD Rebuilder on this too large rip.


#6

[QUOTE=geno888;2538144]If you want to keep the movie only, I suggest to use DVD Shrink (it has a more intuitive interface for this in my opinion). If you want keep menus and extra contents, then I suggest to use clonedvd, because is more updated.

Actually, DVD Shrink is a bit more flexible if you want to keep also extra contents and menus, because you can set manually the amount of compression to each file. in this way, you can apply a higher amount of compression to menus and to trailers, so there will be more space left on the disc and a lesser compression will be needed for the main movie (that should be the most important part of the disc :bigsmile:)
[/QUOTE]

Looks like it’s already time to move this thread then. :wink:

Deano can you answer a few questions re this disc.

Are there any trailers, intros, warnings etc that you could do without?

Also are there motion menus?

[B]Wombler[/B]


#7

Depending on the percentage of compression CloneDvd says it will take to transcode to a SL . If it is more compression than I want I rip with CloneDvd DVD +/- R DL then encode with DVD Rebuilder to the SL size. So for me DVD Rebuilder is part of the AnyDvd and CloneDvd process it is just not from slysoft/elaborate bytes .


#8

I think there are a few extras, but not really anything large (I´ll have to have another look when I get home as I´m at my daughter´s house for the weekend). I want to be a bit careful as I would like to keep both English and German audio tracks available.

And CloneDvd is definitely set to SL…I checked that immediately, and retried anyway…still the same result. Was wondering if it is a new or peculiar protection.

As I don´t have DvdRebuilder currently installed - I might have a look at what can be deleted and have a try using [B]Nero Vision[/B]…and deleting something I don´t need.

Here´s a screenshot of the file list


#9

That’s just a list of the files.

You can’t just delete one of them you have to edit the structure of the DVD to remove the content.

You could reprocess but we can go one better than that. :wink:

Open the DVD in PgcEdit.

For starters we can try the ‘remove useless stuff’ function and see if this removes any uncalled material.

Go to the DVD menu, and select it from there.

Then go to the Tools menu and run FixVTS on the entire DVD.

Delete the PgcEdit backup folders from the DVD folder then look at the total size and see if it’s reduced enough.

If not then select a small PGC in the left hand window (the ones with the duration beside them are the playable ones) then right click and preview the PGC.

Check them all then select the one(s) you don’t mind losing, right click and kill PGC playback. Accept all the dialogue boxes recommended options.

As above delete the backup files and run FixVTS and see how much you’ve reduced the folder size.

You can therefore customise the DVD and produce a version containing exactly what you want. I normally do all this before compression as it will either make compression unnecessary or maximise the quality when compressed.

There’s another program that’s very useful that you may want to try called MenuShrink and this converts motion menus to stills of your choice.

Depending on the menus you can sometimes recover enough space using this program to avoid compression or in your case to get it to fit.

You can also use PgcEdit to remove the menu buttons for specfic extras removed but that’s maybe a step too far at this stage as I don’t know if you want to go down that route or not. It’s a fantastic program though and highly recommended.

If you’ve any queries ask away as I’m more than glad to assist.

[B]Wombler[/B]


#10

Importing all files into Nero Vision…it reported the total was 4.01GB…so attempted to burn to a TDK disc (which always worked before).
Lots of good sounding action as I went to bed (from the lappy I mean!)
Got up to find [B]BURN FAILED[/B] :Z

[B]The log file[/B] is too big to attach, so some parts are here below…maybe someone can spot what the problem is…seems to be related to the cache…

First there´s a bunch of these for each audio and video file

[01:34:20] MMTools --------------------
[01:34:21] AMCUIBase Asset created by user: class AVFileAsset
[01:34:21] AMCUIBase - file paths: 1, first = ‘c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_1.VOB’)
[01:34:22] MMTools SourceBuilder: building c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_05_1.VOB audio/0
[01:34:22] MMTools SourceBuilder: — used source filters —
[01:34:22] MMTools {E436EBB5-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770} - File Source (Async.)
[01:34:22] MMTools {A336CD3B-599C-4F70-A34D-E88EDE4B64C3} - Nero Splitter
[01:34:22] MMTools {83E69A3D-56A5-4850-89C9-F6B6F003EB9B} - NeAudio2
[01:34:22] MMTools SourceBuilder: file type MPEG2 - audio
[01:34:22] MMTools --------------------
[01:34:22] MMTools SourceBuilder: building c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_05_1.VOB video/0
[01:34:22] MMTools SourceBuilder: — used source filters —
[01:34:22] MMTools {E436EBB5-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770} - File Source (Async.)
[01:34:22] MMTools {A336CD3B-599C-4F70-A34D-E88EDE4B64C3} - Nero Splitter
[01:34:22] MMTools {C0BA9CF8-96E0-4C34-B5DE-E92C3FC05ED6} - Nero Video Decoder
[01:34:22] MMTools SourceBuilder: file type MPEG2 - video

and the [B]first error[/B] here in the middle of this

[01:34:30] AMCUIBase Asset created by user: class AVFileAsset
[01:34:30] AMCUIBase - file paths: 1, first = ‘c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_12_1.VOB’)
[01:34:30] MMTools SourceBuilder: building c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_13_1.VOB audio/0
[01:34:30] MMTools SourceBuilder: [B]failed to build[/B] c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_13_1.VOB audio: 0x8004025d -
[01:34:30] MMTools SourceBuilder: building c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_13_1.VOB video/0
[01:34:30] MMTools SourceBuilder: — used source filters —
[01:34:30] MMTools {E436EBB5-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770} - File Source (Async.)
[01:34:30] MMTools {A336CD3B-599C-4F70-A34D-E88EDE4B64C3} - Nero Splitter
[01:34:30] MMTools {C0BA9CF8-96E0-4C34-B5DE-E92C3FC05ED6} - Nero Video Decoder
[01:34:30] MMTools SourceBuilder: file type MPEG2 - video
[01:34:30] MMTools --------------------
[01:34:30] MMTools BitmapGrabber::InternalGetBitmap - [B]failed to get sample[/B] (evCode = 1)
[01:34:30] MMTools BitmapGrabber::[B]InternalGetBitmap - error handler[/B] (begin stop graph)
[01:34:30] MMTools BitmapGrabber::InternalGetBitmap - [B]error handler[/B] (end stop graph)
[01:34:30] AMCUIBase Asset created by user: class AVFileAsset
[01:34:30] AMCUIBase - file paths: 1, first = ‘c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_13_1.VOB’)
[01:34:32] MMTools SourceBuilder: building c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB [0…29919228] audio/0
[01:34:32] MMTools SourceBuilder: — used source filters —
[01:34:32] MMTools {33E02305-BA15-4361-BA65-13536F7A56B7} - GCAsyncSrc
[01:34:32] MMTools {A336CD3B-599C-4F70-A34D-E88EDE4B64C3} - Nero Splitter
[01:34:32] MMTools {83E69A3D-56A5-4850-89C9-F6B6F003EB9B} - NeAudio2
[01:34:32] MMTools SourceBuilder: file type MPEG2 - audio
[01:34:32] MMTools --------------------
[01:34:32] MMTools SourceBuilder: building c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB [0…29919228] video/0
[01:34:32] MMTools SourceBuilder: — used source filters —
[01:34:32] MMTools {33E02305-BA15-4361-BA65-13536F7A56B7} - GCAsyncSrc
[01:34:32] MMTools {A336CD3B-599C-4F70-A34D-E88EDE4B64C3} - Nero Splitter
[01:34:32] MMTools {C0BA9CF8-96E0-4C34-B5DE-E92C3FC05ED6} - Nero Video Decoder
[01:34:32] MMTools SourceBuilder: file type MPEG2 - video

and two seconds later this starts and continues for the rest of the files

[01:34:32] MMTools SourceBuilder: building c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB [29919228…51406844] video/0
[01:34:33] MMTools SourceBuilder: — used source filters —
[01:34:33] MMTools {33E02305-BA15-4361-BA65-13536F7A56B7} - GCAsyncSrc
[01:34:33] MMTools {A336CD3B-599C-4F70-A34D-E88EDE4B64C3} - Nero Splitter
[01:34:33] MMTools {C0BA9CF8-96E0-4C34-B5DE-E92C3FC05ED6} - Nero Video Decoder
[01:34:33] MMTools SourceBuilder: file type MPEG2 - video
[01:34:33] MMTools --------------------
[01:34:33] MMTools SourceBuilder: building c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB [51406844…51482620] audio/0
[01:34:33] MMTools SourceBuilder: [B]failed to build[/B] c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB [51406844…51482620] audio: 0x80040207 - [B]The owner SID on a per-user subscription doesn’t exist[/B]
[01:34:33] MMTools SourceBuilder: building c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB [51406844…51482620] video/0
[01:34:33] MMTools SourceBuilder: — used source filters —
[01:34:33] MMTools {33E02305-BA15-4361-BA65-13536F7A56B7} - GCAsyncSrc
[01:34:33] MMTools {A336CD3B-599C-4F70-A34D-E88EDE4B64C3} - Nero Splitter
[01:34:33] MMTools {C0BA9CF8-96E0-4C34-B5DE-E92C3FC05ED6} - Nero Video Decoder
[01:34:33] MMTools SourceBuilder: file type MPEG2 - video

Next error here

[02:49:12] MMTools SourceBuilder: building cached c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB video/0
[02:49:13] MMTools SourceBuilder: building cached c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB video/0
[02:49:13] MMTools SourceBuilder: building cached c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_0.VOB [0…65532] video/0
[02:49:13] MMTools [B]SourceBuilder: unable to use cache[/B]: 0x80004005 - [B]Unspecified error[/B]
[02:49:13] MMTools SourceBuilder: building c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_0.VOB [0…65532] video/0
[02:49:14] MMTools SourceBuilder: building cached c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB [0…7163900] video/0
[02:49:14] MMTools SourceBuilder: building cached c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_2.VOB video/0
[02:49:15] MMTools SourceBuilder: building cached c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_3.VOB video/0
[02:49:15] MMTools SourceBuilder: building cached c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_1.VOB [0…48617468] video/0
[02:49:16] MMTools SourceBuilder: building cached c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_05_1.VOB [0…80773116] video/0
[02:49:36] DVDEngine BEGIN: IDVDSessionBaseImpl - RegisterCallback
[02:49:36] DVDEngine END: IDVDSessionBaseImpl - RegisterCallback

Here´s the beginning of the project information

[02:50:45] ExpressUI ------<Nero Vision Project Information>--------
[02:50:45] ExpressUI — Project type: DVD-Video
[02:50:45] ExpressUI — Project video options —
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Video mode: PAL
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Aspect ratio: Automatic
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Quality: Automatic (fit to disc) (5073 kbit/s)
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Resolution: Automatic
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Sample format: Automatic
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Video format: MPEG-2
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Audio format: Stereo
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Encoding mode: High Quality (2-Pass VBR)
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Nero SmartEncoding: Automatic
[02:50:45] ExpressUI — Project space information —
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Media type: DVD (4700000000 bytes maximum capacity)
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Total space used: 4.03 out of 4.38 GB (Quality: Excellent)
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Space used for menus: 0.0 out of 1024.0 MB
[02:50:45] ExpressUI — Project contents —
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Audio format: Stereo
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Sample format: Automatic
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Encoding mode: High Quality (2-Pass VBR)
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Nero SmartEncoding: Automatic
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Number of titles: 17

The recording parameters, then the start of the process

[02:50:45] ExpressUI ------Recording Parameters------
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Book Type: 0
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Destination Device: PBDS DVD±RW DS-8W1P (Capabilities: 000AC117)
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Recording Flags: 76
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Recording Speed: 0
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Volume Name: FROM_PARIS_WITH_LOVE
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Burn-at-once flag: 0
[02:50:45] ExpressUI Fast Update allowed: 0
[02:50:45] ExpressUI --End of recording parameters—
[02:50:46] DVDEngine BEGIN: IDVDSessionBaseImpl - RegisterCallback
[02:50:46] DVDEngine END: IDVDSessionBaseImpl - RegisterCallback

Here is when the “unable to use cache” appeared

[02:50:46] DVDEngine **BEGIN: _DVDVideo - Prepare
[02:50:46] DVDEngine …VTS_Ns=17…
[02:50:46] DVDEngine ****BEGIN: _DVDVideoBase - Prepare VMG
[02:50:46] DVDEngine …[B]VMGM_VOBS_exist = false[/B]
[02:50:46] DVDEngine ****END: _DVDVideoBase - Prepare VMG
[02:50:46] DVDEngine ****BEGIN: _DVDVideoBase - Prepare VTS#1
[02:50:46] DVDEngine …[B]VTSM_VOBS_exist = false[/B]
[02:50:46] DVDEngine ******BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#1 - Process Create
[02:50:46] DVDEngine ********BEGIN: _VOBS - Process VOB
[02:50:46] DVDEngine **********BEGIN: _VOBS - _M_analyze_cnv_input
[02:50:46] DVDEngine …Duration 1224000000
[02:50:46] DVDEngine …_streamtime_frame_duration is 400000
[02:50:46] DVDEngine …Stream 0 is ‘Video’
[02:50:46] DVDEngine …Stream 1 is ‘Audio’
[02:50:46] DVDEngine **********END: _VOBS - _M_analyze_cnv_input
[02:50:46] NeroVision Analyze video stream
[02:50:46] NeroVision Seg. | frames | weight | volume
[02:50:46] NeroVision ------±--------±-------±-------
[02:50:46] NeroVision 0 | 1303 | 1 | 1303
[02:50:46] NeroVision 1 | 950 | 1 | 950
[02:50:46] NeroVision 2 | 108 | 2 | 216
[02:50:46] NeroVision 3 | 699 | 1 | 699
[02:50:46] NeroVision ------±--------±-------±-------
[02:50:46] NeroVision total : 3168
[02:50:46] NeroVision Estimate Size
[02:50:46] NeroVision ±------±-----±-------±---------±--------
[02:50:46] NeroVision |Stream | Seg. | UnComp.| Duration | Size (KB)
[02:50:46] NeroVision ±------±-----±-------±---------±--------
[02:50:46] NeroVision | 0 | 0 | 0 | 52.12 | 27129
[02:50:46] NeroVision | 0 | 1 | 0 | 38.00 | 18398
[02:50:46] NeroVision | 0 | 2 | 1 | 4.32 | 4443
[02:50:46] NeroVision | 0 | 3 | 0 | 27.96 | 27304
[02:50:46] NeroVision | 1 | 0 | 1 | 122.40 | 3427
[02:50:46] NeroVision ±------±-----±-------±---------±--------
[02:50:46] NeroVision total data size : 82867325 bytes
[02:50:46] NeroVision multiplexed size : 85604352 bytes
[02:50:46] MMTools SourceBuilder: building cached c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB [29919228…51406844] video/0
[02:50:47] MMTools SourceBuilder: building cached c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB [51406844…51482620] video/0
[02:50:47] [B]MMTools SourceBuilder: unable to use cache[/B]: 0x80004005 - Unspecified error

This error is repeated many times

[02:50:58] DVDEngine …[B]VTSM_VOBS_exist = false[/B]

and then this again

[02:51:01] MMTools SourceBuilder: building cached c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB [29919228…51406844] audio/0
[02:51:04] MMTools SourceBuilder: building cached c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB [29919228…51406844] video/0
[02:51:04] MMTools SourceBuilder: building cached c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB [51406844…51482620] video/0
[02:51:04] [B]MMTools SourceBuilder: unable to use cache[/B]: 0x80004005 - Unspecified error

Next

[02:51:14] MMTools SourceBuilder: building cached c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_0.VOB [0…65532] video/0
[02:51:14] MMTools SourceBuilder: unable to use cache: 0x80004005 - Unspecified error

This looks interesting!

[02:51:16] [B]DVDEngine WARNING: DVDENGINE VOBS VERIFY ERROR 0001[/B]
[02:51:16] DVDEngine VOBU at RLBN 0 (VOB_IDN=1, C_IDN=1, VOBU_S_PTM=29318, VOBU_E_PTM=43718)
[02:51:16] DVDEngine Presentation time of VOBU is 14400 ticks (0.1600 s), but must be at least 36000 ticks
[02:51:16] DVDEngine (0.4000 s).
[02:51:16] DVDEngine ========================================================================================
[02:51:16] DVDEngine ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[02:51:16] DVDEngine INFORMATION: DVDENGINE VOBS VERIFY ERROR 0001 will no longer be reported.
[02:51:16] DVDEngine ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I dunno what all these terms mean exactly, but it seems to be able to build what it needs: VOBS or so for example, and then report that it is ok…sizes and times seem ok too

[03:03:50] DVDEngine ********BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#15 - INFORMATION after Create
[03:03:50] DVDEngine ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[03:03:50] DVDEngine General information:
[03:03:50] DVDEngine …size=35508 (69.4 MB)
[03:03:50] DVDEngine …capacity=35508 (69.4 MB)
[03:03:50] DVDEngine …VOB_Ns=1
[03:03:50] DVDEngine …C_Ns=1
[03:03:50] DVDEngine …VOBU_Ns=268
[03:03:50] DVDEngine VOB information:
[03:03:50] DVDEngine …VOB#1: VOB_IDN=1, [0;35507], C_Ns=1, VOB_V_S_PTM=26977, VOB_V_E_PTM=11672977
[03:03:50] DVDEngine …Cell#1: C_IDN=1, [0;35507], VOBU_Ns=268, C_PBTM=02m09s.10
[03:03:50] DVDEngine ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[03:03:50] DVDEngine ********END: VTSTT_VOBS#15 - INFORMATION after Create
[03:03:50] DVDEngine ******END: VTSTT_VOBS#15 - Process Create
[03:03:50] DVDEngine ******BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#15 - Verify
[03:03:50] DVDEngine ******END: VTSTT_VOBS#15 - Verify
[03:03:50] DVDEngine …VTSTT_VOBS: size=69.4 MB (72,720,384 bytes)
[03:03:50] DVDEngine ****END: Create - VTSTT_VOBS#15

Then the cache problem again

[03:04:06] NeroVision Set Preview Channel
[03:04:06] MMTools SourceBuilder: building cached c:\CloneDVDTemp\VIDEO_TS\VTS_13_1.VOB video/0
[03:04:06] [B]MMTools SourceBuilder: unable to use cache: 0x80004005 - Unspecified error[/B]

ERROR 0001 ???

[03:04:07] [B]DVDEngine WARNING: DVDENGINE VOBS VERIFY ERROR 0001[/B]
[03:04:07] DVDEngine VOBU at RLBN 0 (VOB_IDN=1, C_IDN=1, VOBU_S_PTM=26977, VOBU_E_PTM=30577)
[03:04:07] DVDEngine Presentation time of VOBU is 3600 ticks (0.0400 s), but must be at least 36000 ticks
[03:04:07] DVDEngine (0.4000 s).

It´s still trying to do something

[03:04:07] DVDEngine ******BEGIN: VTSI#1 - Create
[03:04:07] DVDEngine …[B]VTSM_VOBS exists = false[/B]

but all the VTSI files report the same error…
[B][I]Still, Mr Nero still tries to burn (no wonder they named this prog Nero…after the king who basically let Rome burn to ashes while allegedly having a jam session with his violin!)[/I][/B] :doh:

[03:04:07] NeroVision DVD-Video files sorted
[03:04:10] NeroVision Caching of files started
[03:04:10] NeroVision Caching of files completed
[03:04:10] NeroVision Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)
[03:04:10] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#1 - Write
[03:04:10] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=81,895,424 bytes
[03:04:12] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:04:12] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#1 - Write
[03:04:12] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#2 - Write
[03:04:12] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=6,414,336 bytes
[03:04:13] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:04:13] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#2 - Write
[03:04:13] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#3 - Write
[03:04:13] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=1,765,376 bytes
[03:04:13] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:04:13] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#3 - Write
[03:04:13] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#4 - Write
[03:04:13] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=161,792 bytes
[03:04:13] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:04:13] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#4 - Write
[03:04:13] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#5 - Write
[03:04:13] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=908,099,584 bytes
[03:07:54] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:07:54] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#5 - Write
[03:07:54] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#6 - Write
[03:07:54] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=919,246,848 bytes
[03:10:37] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:10:37] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#6 - Write
[03:10:37] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#7 - Write
[03:10:37] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=826,681,344 bytes
[03:12:24] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:12:24] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#7 - Write
[03:12:24] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#8 - Write
[03:12:24] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=166,105,088 bytes
[03:12:44] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:12:44] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#8 - Write
[03:12:44] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#9 - Write
[03:12:44] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=375,578,624 bytes
[03:13:29] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:13:29] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#9 - Write
[03:13:29] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#10 - Write
[03:13:29] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=584,577,024 bytes
[03:14:38] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:14:38] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#10 - Write
[03:14:38] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#11 - Write
[03:14:38] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=125,804,544 bytes
[03:14:53] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:14:53] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#11 - Write
[03:14:53] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#12 - Write
[03:14:53] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=35,725,312 bytes
[03:15:02] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:15:02] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#12 - Write
[03:15:02] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#13 - Write
[03:15:02] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=43,399,168 bytes
[03:15:05] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:15:05] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#13 - Write
[03:15:05] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#14 - Write
[03:15:05] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=10,237,952 bytes
[03:15:06] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:15:06] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#14 - Write
[03:15:06] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#15 - Write
[03:15:06] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=72,720,384 bytes
[03:15:13] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:15:13] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#15 - Write
[03:15:13] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#16 - Write
[03:15:13] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=74,694,656 bytes
[03:15:19] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:15:19] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#16 - Write
[03:15:19] DVDEngine BEGIN: VTSTT_VOBS#17 - Write
[03:15:19] DVDEngine …RBP=0, count=12,288 bytes
[03:15:19] DVDEngine …succeeded
[03:15:19] DVDEngine END: VTSTT_VOBS#17 - Write
[B][03:17:27] NeroVision Power calibration error[/B]
[03:17:27] NeroVision D: PBDS DVD±RW DS-8W1P
[B][03:17:27] NeroVision Could not perform end of Disc-at-once[/B]
[03:17:27] NeroVision Generating DVD high compatibility borders
[03:17:27] NeroVision Power calibration error
[03:17:27] NeroVision D: PBDS DVD±RW DS-8W1P
[03:17:27] NeroVision Could not perform end of Disc-at-once
[03:17:27] NeroVision [B]Burn process failed[/B] at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

Finally…

[03:17:29] NeroVision ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
[03:17:29] NeroVision Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
[03:17:29] NeroVision Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
[03:17:29] NeroVision Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
[03:17:29] NeroVision Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
[03:17:29] NeroVision Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
[03:17:29] NeroVision Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
[03:17:29] NeroVision End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
[03:17:29] NeroVision End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
[03:17:29] NeroVision Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
[03:17:29] NeroVision Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
[03:17:29] NeroVision Extended Information indicators: 7 h
[03:17:29] NeroVision Disc Manufacturer ID: TDK…
[03:17:29] NeroVision Media type ID: 003
[03:17:29] NeroVision Product revision number: 0
[03:17:29] NeroVision Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
[03:17:29] NeroVision Media Specific [16…63]:
[03:17:29] NeroVision 00 00 07 54 44 4B 00 00 - 00 00 00 30 30 33 00 38 …TDK…003.8
[03:17:29] NeroVision 23 54 37 12 02 4A 73 02 - 9C 6E 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7…Js.Å“n…
[03:17:29] NeroVision 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
[03:17:29] NeroVision
[03:17:29] NeroVision 03:04:10 #21 SPTI -1066 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 291
[03:17:29] NeroVision D: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1066)
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Code: 0x24
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Qual: 0x00
[03:17:29] NeroVision CDB Data: 0xAC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 64 00 00
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24
[03:17:29] NeroVision Buffer x08f05400: Len x648
[03:17:29] NeroVision
[03:17:29] NeroVision 03:04:10 #22 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 661
[03:17:29] NeroVision Start write address at LBA 0
[03:17:29] NeroVision DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
[03:17:29] NeroVision
[03:17:29] NeroVision 03:15:42 #23 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
[03:17:29] NeroVision <D: PBDS DVD±RW DS-8W1P> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2067888 (1F8DB0h), length 0 blocks
[03:17:29] NeroVision
[03:17:29] NeroVision 03:15:42 #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
[03:17:29] NeroVision [B]all writers idle, stopping conversion[/B]
[03:17:29] NeroVision
[03:17:29] NeroVision 03:16:35 #25 SPTI -1106 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 291
[03:17:29] NeroVision [B]D: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) [/B]NeroError(-1106)
[03:17:29] NeroVision [B]Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)[/B]
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Code: 0x73
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Qual: 0x03
[03:17:29] NeroVision CDB Data: 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Area: 0x71 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 73 03
[03:17:29] NeroVision
[03:17:29] NeroVision 03:16:35 #26 SPTI -1176 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 291
[03:17:29] NeroVision D: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1176)
[03:17:29] NeroVision [B]Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)[/B]
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Code: 0x72
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Qual: 0x03
[03:17:29] NeroVision CDB Data: 0x5B 01 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 72 03
[03:17:29] NeroVision
[03:17:29] NeroVision 03:16:35 #27 CDR -1106 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1953
[03:17:29] NeroVision Power calibration error
[03:17:29] NeroVision D: PBDS DVD±RW DS-8W1P
[03:17:29] NeroVision
[03:17:29] NeroVision 03:16:35 #28 TRANSFER -24 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1953
[03:17:29] NeroVision Could not perform end of Disc-at-once
[03:17:29] NeroVision
[03:17:29] NeroVision 03:17:27 #29 SPTI -1106 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 291
[03:17:29] NeroVision D: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1106)
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Code: 0x73
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Qual: 0x03
[03:17:29] NeroVision CDB Data: 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Area: 0x71 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 73 03
[03:17:29] NeroVision
[03:17:29] NeroVision 03:17:27 #30 SPTI -1176 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 291
[03:17:29] NeroVision D: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1176)
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Code: 0x72
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Qual: 0x03
[03:17:29] NeroVision CDB Data: 0x5B 01 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[03:17:29] NeroVision Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 72 03
[03:17:29] NeroVision
[03:17:29] NeroVision 03:17:27 #31 Phase 127 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 282
[03:17:29] NeroVision Generating DVD high compatibility borders
[03:17:29] NeroVision
[03:17:29] NeroVision 03:17:27 #32 CDR -1106 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167
[03:17:29] NeroVision Power calibration error
[03:17:29] NeroVision D: PBDS DVD±RW DS-8W1P
[03:17:29] NeroVision
[03:17:29] NeroVision 03:17:27 #33 TRANSFER -24 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167
[03:17:29] NeroVision Could not perform end of Disc-at-once
[03:17:29] NeroVision
[03:17:29] NeroVision 03:17:27 #34 Phase 38 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 282
[03:17:29] NeroVision Burn process failed at 8x (11,080 KB/s)
[03:17:29] NeroVision
[03:17:29] NeroVision Existing drivers:
[03:17:29] NeroVision File ‘Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS’: Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 17/08/2001 16:07:32
[03:17:29] NeroVision File ‘Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS’: Ver=8.0.0.212 , size=9464 bytes, created 02/02/2007 04:00:00
[03:17:29] NeroVision File ‘Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS’: Ver=3.00.56a, size=43528 bytes, created 23/03/2007 04:00:00 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
[03:17:29] NeroVision Registry Keys:
[03:17:29] NeroVision HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 1 (Security Option)

There´s a hell of a lot more info in this file, but I´ve tried to hi-light the main features. If anyone wants to see the original file, let me know and I´ll post it or email it.

:rolleyes:


#11

[QUOTE=Wombler;2538215]…You can’t just delete one of them you have to edit the structure of the DVD to remove the content…
…we can try the ‘remove useless stuff’ function and see if this removes any uncalled material…
… then look at the total size and see if it’s reduced enough…
…Depending on the menus you can sometimes recover enough space using this program to avoid compression or in your case to get it to fit.

…If you’ve any queries ask away as I’m more than glad to assist.
[B]Wombler[/B][/QUOTE]

Thank you kind sir.
I´m really not sure it´s a size problem, although CloneDvd reported that 4.36GB was too big, since importing all the files into Nero Express showed a total of only 4.01GB. Never-the-less, I´m curious to get to the bottom of this as I´ve never had a failure like this before.
BTW…I am able to click on the TS_BUP file and the complete video plays on my laptop including fully funtional menu features :eek:


#12

[QUOTE=deanimator;2538227]Thank you kind sir.
I´m really not sure it´s a size problem, although CloneDvd reported that 4.36GB was too big, since importing all the files into Nero Express showed a total of only 4.01GB. Never-the-less, I´m curious to get to the bottom of this as I´ve never had a failure like this before.
BTW…I am able to click on the TS_BUP file and the complete video plays on my laptop including fully funtional menu features :eek:[/QUOTE]

My pleasure.

Most of the other errors seem to stem from that first one with VOB 13.

There’s a possibility that this is a bad or corrupt rip.

When you’re importing it into Nero Express it’s perhaps excluding corrupt material which would explain the difference in size.

I see there’s a power calibration error there as well though which normally suggests media related problems or a writer that’s potentially on the way out.

It could just be a weird side effect of the other errors though.

[B]Wombler[/B]


#13

[QUOTE=Wombler;2538236]…There’s a possibility that this is a bad or corrupt rip…
…I see there’s a power calibration error there as well though which normally suggests media related problems or a writer that’s potentially on the way out.
It could just be a weird side effect of the other errors though.
[B]Wombler[/B][/QUOTE]

I shall investigate further tomorrow…when I get home after work & training, and before I get a beer :wink:
If it continues or repeats…would it be worth sending the CloneDvd log file to Slysoft?


#14

Lesson learned: Stay away from nero stuff :stuck_out_tongue:

Try this other thing: load files with DVD Shrink, remove all unwanted features, and save files without compression. Do not use the re-author mode for this, or menus will be removed.

Then load the saved files in cloneDVD, and run any compression if needed :slight_smile:


#15

[QUOTE=deanimator;2538237]If it continues or repeats…would it be worth sending the CloneDvd log file to Slysoft?[/QUOTE]

There’s no harm in trying that and it may well be interesting to hear what they say.

[B]Wombler[/B]


#16

@ deanimator , I assume you have the latest version of CloneDVD. You might try downloading a fresh copy .Then uninstalling the old one just in case it is corrupt.
I’ve ripped a lot of movies with AnyDVD & CloneDVD & I’ve never had it create a VIDEO_TS folder larger than 4.35 GB for a DVD-5 rip.
I don’t know why it added the .01 GB but I think that is the problem.
I would be interested in knowing the cause .
Have you tried doing a burn with ImgBurn & see what its log reports?


#17

Next opportunity to investigate completely will be in about 24 hours, so I´ll report back for sure.

Everything is up-to-date, and this is my first example of a problem…I was very surprised when it happened…but we´ll solve it.

A big thanks to all for the support here :bow:


#18

You’re better off going straight to the CloneDVD thread on the Slysoft website. Upload the logfiles and they’ll figure it out. Just for the record, I had no problems with From Paris With Love, movie only, one subtitle and 6 channel audio.


#19

Problem solved :clap:

It was easy:
DON´T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF BAD MEDIA TO SCREW WITH THE LIMITED TIME YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU MEET YER MAKER!!!

Yep…the first two burns were on what appears to be not-optimal media. The burn I have just made…worked perfectly from the original titles which I kept on the lappy from the first rip!!! This time I burned using the usual parameters to my Benq but to one of my few remaining 4x MIJ Verbatims…no problem at all.

:doh:

Thanks for all the wild and cool and kind suggestions
:bow:


#20

Excellent, glad you got sorted.

That power calibration error mostly relates to bad media although as I said earlier it can also occur when your drive is on the way out.

[B]Wombler[/B]