I see what you are saying now--usually DVD Decrypter can get around encryption, but when it can't, couple it w/AnyDVD to make the disk appear non-copy-protected. The settings Olli suggested simply turn over control of the descrambling to AnyDVD, and put Decrypter idle on the descrambling front--I didn't quite get that at first. Have it got it right, now? (I completely misintrepreted what Olli was trying to tell me. Duh.)
Yes, I agree, I should install the programs to see how they work, and then my posts here should take on more of an intelligent air. Because I have so much VOB-related stuff currently on my system (the list is long), I try not to add something until I need it.. But I will give the proggys a look-see and come back when I have topped the learning curve a bit more.
AFA using CloneDVD, what Olli said aboout it not retaining the original layer break, I'd want it to do that--I'm definitely not up to snuff like you guys are, on editing all the VOBs, IFOs, BUPs, etc., to fine-tune. Someday I'll no doubt learn all that, but it will be awhile. Just now, I just want good backups!
And thank you for your patience in replying.