Cholla's Contest Entry

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#1

I guess this is the thread to make the contest posts ?
If not you can move mine to the correct thread.

I’m testing with TDMore Free DVD Copy .
The first movie I tried was a very new release & I got this message.

Not a big deal I suspected it might be too new.
These are the results from my main computer with Vista OS .
I could give the computer specs but for the short version medium level dual core .
New enough movie & worked with all four softwares tested.
I did DVD 9 so no compression was necessary.
Main movie with 1 audio track (removing the other audio track) .
Subtitles left in. Menu left in.
I didn’t time the decryption scans but all seemed about the same & none had trouble with this movie.
TDMore Free DVD Copy time 5 minutes 46 seconds
AnyDVD HD with CloneDVD2 time 6 minutes 14 seconds
DVDFab DVD Copy v 8 (paid) time 5 minutes 46 seconds
Ideal DVD Copy time 7 minutes 54 seconds


#2

The tests are slower because I used an RW than they would be if I had used a 16x + or - R.
I just didn’t want to waste discs. I used the same +RW for all tests. I erased it in between with ImgBurn.

Movie: Only Lovers Left Alive
Full Size: 7.79GB
Main Movie with menu size: 3.93GB
Output set to DVD9
TDMore Free DVD Copy :
Only Audio track selected: English AC-3/5.1
All subs selected.
Written to DVD +RW speed 2.4x (Max).
Scan time = 17 seconds
Read time: 5:59
Write time:21:45
Total time: 28:02

DVDFab DVD Copy(paid v )
Same DVD as above except no menu .
Scan time = 24 seconds
Read time: 5:52
Write time: 21:45 (Automatically using ImgBurn)
Total time: 28:01

AnyDVD HD & CloneDVD2 with menu.
I had to set to DVD5 because at DVD 9 the size was slightly too large.
CloneDVD2 wouldn’t burn to a DVD5 disc that way.
Funny thing it says "target size sufficient ,transcoder disabled " both ways but now the size is small enough .
Scan time = 12 seconds
Read time:7:26
Write time: 22:51
Total time: 30:17

Ideal DVD Copy
No menu.
One thing I didn’t like was I couldn’t use both drives .
I had to put that blank RW in the same drive that ripped the movie DVD.
There were a couple of button presses involved also .
So this software takes a little more hands on.
Scan time = 14 seconds
Read time:7:28
Write time: 22:20
Total time: 30:12

I wanted to test with DVDFab HD Decrypter but only my laptop had an expired trial version of
DVD Copy . It was slow so if that’s the best it can do it’s not even in the running.
I have XP Pro on another hard drive on my main computer but it had never had the trial of DVD Fab.
I tried to select HD Decrypter but It automatically chose DVD Copy. I will need to wait for the trial to expire to test it. I doubt it will be much different than DVDFab DVD Copy when done on the same computer but a different OS.
However DVDFab HD Decrypter does have the capability to use ImgBurn to automatically write to a DVD disc just like DVDFab DVD Copy.

In the long run only a 2:16 difference between the fastest & the slowest.


#3

Hi cholla, every processor and computer will be almost the same. A DVD writer can only go so fast if the writer doesn’t have riplock (reading). I think its the write times that you have to time. Some DVD writers are 16X and 18X and 22X and 24X. But I never saw anything more than 16X media. I haven’t burned a dvd in months , I usually just download them to my hdd. I will test also, but I can guarantee that this program is about the fastest a DVD writer can go, every time will be different I think but close enough, seconds most likely. Interesting stuff.:bigsmile:


#4

The write times were longer because of using 2.4x DVD +RW discs .
I didn’t want to waste regular + or - R 16x discs burning the same movie several times. I usually burn those at 8x .
You notice the write times were even closer than the total time.

When I used my laptop’s internal drive with DVDFab HD Decrypter it was much slower that the programs I tested on my mail computer . I don’t have much to compare that with since I almost never use the laptop for ripping or burning.
I guess I should see how AnyDVD & CloneDVD2 that I have on it do .
Maybe I will get to that sometime this evening.


#5

Laptop W7 64 bit

TDMore Free DVD Copy :
Internal drive: TSSTcorp CDDVDWTS-L633C (Reading drive)
External drive:Matshita DVD-RAM SW-9585 (Writting drive)
Scan time = 1:45
Read time:17:06
Write time:21:28
Total time:40:19

DVDFab HD Decrypter
Same DVD as above except no menu .
Scan time = 3:30
Read time:17:00
Write time:21:34
Total time: 42:04


#6

TDMore DVD Copy Trial Version:
Different movie because I was using the movie I tested the free version with in my laptop at the same time.
I will be using Unstoppable for the trial version tests & comparisons.
Main Computer using XP Pro SP3 OS on Aux hard drive.
I did this test because XP wasn’t in the list of specified OSs.
The recommended speed settings wrote to my 2.4x DVD at 2.6x part of the time.
It worked for me.
Scan time = 17 seconds
Read time: 4:56
Write time:19:51
Total time:25:04

The rest of the tests will be with Vista OS on my main computer .


#7

Unfortunately even though I have never had TDMore DVD Copy installed on my Vista OS it says I’ve already used my trial .
I have used the Free version on Vista but not the trial.
On the same computer but a completely separate hard drive with XP Pro I installed TDMore DVD Copy today & used it one time.
This aux hard drive is not a dual boot & has to be booted using F12.
So it is usually completely independent but has access to Vista & vice versa.
In any event TDMore DVD Copy hasn’t been used for three DVDs on this computer.
The free version has . That is all I can think of that confused whatever TDMore DVD Copy has in the Vista registry.

My advice to TDMore is a time limit for the trial like a month .
That is the model DVDFab has always used.
Slysoft uses 21 days .
Think about it how many people would actually try to do every DVD they have in that amount of time.
This way I didn’t get to test the time needed to compress a larger movie to DVD 5 .
Too limited a trial leads to limited testing .
The DVD I was testing with already has a backup copy .
The testing I was doing was to post the results .


#8

[QUOTE=cholla;2737051]Unfortunately even though I have never had TDMore DVD Copy installed on my Vista OS it says I’ve already used my trial .
I have used the Free version on Vista but not the trial.
On the same computer but a completely separate hard drive with XP Pro I installed TDMore DVD Copy today & used it one time.
This aux hard drive is not a dual boot & has to be booted using F12.
So it is usually completely independent but has access to Vista & vice versa.
In any event TDMore DVD Copy hasn’t been used for three DVDs on this computer.
The free version has . That is all I can think of that confused whatever TDMore DVD Copy has in the Vista registry.

My advice to TDMore is a time limit for the trial like a month .
That is the model DVDFab has always used.
Slysoft uses 21 days .
Think about it how many people would actually try to do every DVD they have in that amount of time.
This way I didn’t get to test the time needed to compress a larger movie to DVD 5 .[/QUOTE]
Good point cholla.:slight_smile:


#9

[QUOTE=alan1476;2737052]Good point cholla.:)[/QUOTE]

I was happy with the free versions performance .

I may have a couple of DVDs left on the XP installation.
I’m not going to boot into it right now to find out.

If I do I will do a compress to DVD5 with XP.
What I did with the free version & the test with XP was use a DVD that is small enough after the “Extra” stuff is removed it doesn’t need to be compressed. Therefore it is quicker to process since it doesn’t need transcoding.

I planned to test how well the transcoder works.


#10

[QUOTE=cholla;2737051]Unfortunately even though I have never had TDMore DVD Copy installed on my Vista OS it says I’ve already used my trial .
I have used the Free version on Vista but not the trial.
On the same computer but a completely separate hard drive with XP Pro I installed TDMore DVD Copy today & used it one time.
This aux hard drive is not a dual boot & has to be booted using F12.
So it is usually completely independent but has access to Vista & vice versa.
In any event TDMore DVD Copy hasn’t been used for three DVDs on this computer.
The free version has . That is all I can think of that confused whatever TDMore DVD Copy has in the Vista registry.[/QUOTE]

The trial version will allow you to copy or convert 3 files. But if you installed the software but uninstalled out of some reason, the trial times before will also count in if you re-install the same software in the same computer.
If possible, we would like to suggest you try TDMore DVD Converter and share your experience with us. All your post will count in the campaign.

[QUOTE=cholla;2737051] My advice to TDMore is a time limit for the trial like a month .
That is the model DVDFab has always used.
Slysoft uses 21 days .
Think about it how many people would actually try to do every DVD they have in that amount of time.
This way I didn’t get to test the time needed to compress a larger movie to DVD 5 .
Too limited a trial leads to limited testing .
The DVD I was testing with already has a backup copy .
The testing I was doing was to post the results .[/QUOTE]

Very thankful for your advice, we will think about it.:flower:


#11

@ TDMore Software , I’m certain this is the only time I installed TDMore DVD Copy on this computers Vista OS. I suspect that it is something caused either by the free version being still installed ( I used it quite a bit) . Or it is the unique ID of my computer . That would be the same for both Vista & XP Pro on this computer even though they are on separate hard drives & have separate registries.

I had planned to try the TDMore DVD Converter . My computer is a bit slow at conversions & I use primarily DVD compliant format.

Although I played around with some blu-ray files I don’t plan to work with blu-ray as long as I have another option. So I won’t be testing any blu-ray software.


#12

Thanks for your feedback Cholla, after our technical team test, the free version did influence the trial of paid version, we will fix it as soon as possible. Looking forward to your experience of DVD Converter. Very nice of you to write this.:flower::flower:


#13

XP Pro rip of movie that needs compression to DVD5.
I doubt the times will be any different that they would with Vista.
I didn’t test AnyDVD & ClonedVD2 or Ideal DVD Copy this time.
I don’t have Ideal on the XP Pro drive.
For this movie DVDFab was slightly faster.
I suspect with times this close it will vary from movie to movie.
Note the time to Scan or (decrypt) the movie was the same.
I know this will be different on most movies.

TDMore DVD Copy :
Scan time = 17 seconds
Read time: 12:48
Write time: 22:35
Total time: 34:40
I suspect the increase in read time is due to the program doing compression.

DVDFab DVD Copy
Scan time = 17 seconds
Read time: 12:18
Write time: 22:39
Total time: 34:14


#14

Good read,cholla!Interesting observations which make the software only better if support is following this thread!:clap:


#15

Thanks RW , I’m going to be testing the TDMore DVD Converter .
I don’t need anything converted particularly but I thought I would see how it does.
On other conversions I’ve done they can take quite a while if you don’t have a fast processor. I don’t have a fast processor.


#16

[QUOTE=cholla;2737193]Thanks RW , I’m going to be testing the TDMore DVD Converter .
I don’t need anything converted particularly but I thought I would see how it does.
On other conversions I’ve done they can take quite a while if you don’t have a fast processor. I don’t have a fast processor.[/QUOTE]

:bigsmile: We believe all your tests are helpful. Not everyone has fast processor. We are testing with i7 processor, sometimes, i5. If you got VLC player, you may test the cinavia discs.:bigsmile:


#17

I had some time so I used the TDMore DVD Converter for converting a couple of commercial movie DVDs.

TDMore DVD Converter
Vista OS
High quality .MKV with the H264 .
Scan time = 60 seconds
Convert time: 1:28:26
Total time : 1:29:26
Finished size: 1.66GB
There were only 3 settings:
Low , Normal , & High Quality.
No size or other settings available.
I do like that it converts directly from a commercial movie DVD.
It will convert from already ripped DVD Folders also.

High quality .MP4
Scan time = 60 seconds
Convert time: 1:55:31
Total time : !:56:31
Finished size: 1.67GB

It will do some image files I will have to give that a test.


#18

This was the last conversion of the 3 the trial allows.
The result looked good for an .flv .
DVD .iso to .flv
I decided to try with an .flv & it’s going to be a lot faster.
Be sure to select “None” on the subtitles or you will have hardcoded subtitles in your .flv
Scan time = 3 seconds.
Convert time:26:14
Total time:26:17
DVD (.iso) size 4.06GB
.FLV size 1.52GB


#19

With my main computer converting with h265 would be too slow.
I also tested to see if my TV would play h265 .mp4 or .mkv files from it’s USB port.
It has it’s own codecs to do this & plays other files of this format not converted with h265.
It gave me an "unknown file " message.
I would need to use a media player that play these files to my TV.
Or set up a htpc & play them with VLC or a similar computer media payer.
Down the road the conversion with h265 may be something I need .
When I decide to replace my current computer with a faster one & maybe buy a new TV.
I used VLC player on my PC & the picture quality was very good.

High quality .MP4 h265
DVD Folder with 10 minute time.
Scan time almost none.
Convert time: 53:07
Total time : 53:07
If this was a 120 minute DVD it would take 12 times as long.
I just multiplied the 10 minute time.
Convert time 11:37:24

High quality .MKV h265
DVD Folder with 10 minute time.
Scan time almost none.
Convert time: 1:15:21
If this was a 120 minute DVD it would take 12 times as long.
I just multiplied the 10 minute time.
Convert time:15:00:21


#20

I’ve done most of the tests I can think of with the TDMore software I have.

These are a couple of suggestions:
There needs to be a remove or clear option in the converter for when another DVD folder or disc is wanted.
I would like the option to convert from more formats than DVD compliant folders.
For example if I want to convert a .mp4 to a .flv .
This is probably more complex that the first two . More settings for the video formats used. For example resolution & audio format used.