Cdfreaks presents Philips DVDR16LS review

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#1

You can find it here: http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/188

Feel free to comment the review in this thread.


#2

Jan70, nice review, well done !


#3

Yes, a lot of information, particularly about LightScribe. Some of us were wondering who was going to support it in software. It’s encouraging that you can revisit the disc and burn additional text/graphics in line with content.

Any ideas on media pricing though? I wouldn’t like to think the hardware was being sold cheaply with the consumables expensive (ie like inkjet printers)…


#4

Germany:

5 pack - Philips DVD+R 8x LightScribe 5.70 EUR
5 pack - Philips DVD-R 8x LightScribe 5.70 EUR
10 Pack - Verbatim CD-R 52x LightScribe 10.90 EUR


#5

Ist the Hardware of the drive the same as BenQ 1625 and is HP 640c identical to the BenQ 1625? :slight_smile:


#6

The main PCB should be the same on Philips, BenQ and HP. However the 2nd PCB where the LEDs and the tray motor in located should be different compared with the Philips and BenQ/HP.

The BenQ and HP should be identical (inside hardware). But somebody needs to open their BenQ and Hp to prove it 100% though.


#7

Thanks for the info jan.
I ordered a HP640i in Germany and already have it. The Philips or BenQ weren’t available here. “HP640i” is printed on a label on the drive, but I also find “BenQ” on it. Windows (and my BIOS) says it is called HP640c.

This is really confusing cause I read the BenQ drives have the eject button in the middle. On my drive it is on the right!


#8

Are you sure that you are not mixing up the eject button with the emergency eject hole?

Hp’s LightScribe drives:

Emergency eject hole on the left side – Lite-On OEM
Emergency eject hole in the middle – BenQ/Philips OEM
Emergency eject hole on the right side - LG OEM


#9

Ah got it! That sounds more clear, thx again. So 640c is really a BenQ/Philips drive.
Do you know if there are plans to release a P3.4-like firmware for the BenQ/Philips drive? Then I could remove my Philips 1640 :slight_smile:


#10

According to Ala42’s MCSE (Media Code Speed Edit) the support for DVD+R9 DL at 4x and DVD-R at 16x, are already included/implanted in the firmware P1.4. So I guess they just need to be activated/turned on.


Media Code Speed Edit (VERSION NUMBER REMOVED)
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Firmware: PHILIPS DVDR16LS        LS__TAD__4119___ 
Bootcode: 
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Overall supported media types:  245
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DVD+RDL supported media types:    8
DVD+R   supported media types:   79
DVD+RW  supported media types:   17
DVD-R   supported media types:  122
DVD-RW  supported media types:   19
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DVD+RDL supported media types:    8
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CMC MAG  D01    2.4x
INFOME   D01    2.4x
MKM      001    4x,2.4x
PHILIPS  CD2    2.4x
PHILIPS  PD2    2.4x
PRODISC  D01    2.4x
RICOHJPN D00    2.4x
RITEK    D01    2.4x

DVD+R   supported media types:   79
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AML      002    12x,8x,4x
AML      003    16x,12x,8x,4x
BeAll000 P80    12x,8x,4x
BeAll000 PG0    16x,12x,8x,4x
CMC MAG  E01    8x,4x
CMC MAG  M01    16x,12x,8x,4x
DAXON    AZ2    12x,8x,4x
DAXON    AZ3    16x,12x,8x,4x
DAXON    CY3    16x,12x,8x,4x
DDDessau V30    12x,8x,4x
DT-D03   004    12x,8x,4x
EMDP     000    8x,4x
EMDPAZ01 000    16x,12x,8x,4x
GSC503   H01    16x,12x,8x,4x
GSC503   H01    8x,4x
IMC JPN  R01    16x,12x,8x,4x
INFODISC R20    12x,8x,4x
INFOME   R20    12x,8x,4x
INFOME   R30    16x,12x,8x,4x
IS01     002    8x,4x
ISSM     001    8x,4x
ISSM     003    16x,12x,8x,4x
LD       M04    16x,12x,8x,4x
LD       S03    12x,8x,4x
LD       S04    16x,12x,8x,4x
LGEP16   001    16x,12x,8x,4x
LONGTEN  002    8x,4x
MAM      M02    8x,4x
MAM      M04    16x,12x,8x,4x
MAXELL   002    12x,8x,4x
MAXELL   003    16x,12x,8x,4x
MBIPG101 R04    12x,8x,4x
MBIPG101 R05    16x,12x,8x,4x
MCC      003    12x,8x,4x
MCC      004    16x,12x,8x,4x
MJC      003    12x,8x,4x
MPOMEDIA 080    8x,4x
MUST     002    8x,4x
MUST     006    16x,12x,8x,4x
NAN YA   FLX    16x,12x,8x,4x
NANYA    ALX    16x,12x,8x,4x
NANYA    CHX    12x,8x,4x
NANYA    CLX    12x,8x,4x
NSD      R40    16x,12x,8x,4x
OPTODISC F16    16x,12x,8x,4x
OPTODISC OR8    8x,4x
OPTODISC R16    16x,12x,8x,4x
PHILIPS  C08    8x,4x
PHILIPS  C16    16x,12x,8x,4x
POS      R01    8x,4x
POS      R05    16x,12x,8x,4x
PRODISC  R03    12x,8x,4x
PRODISC  R04    16x,12x,8x,4x
PRODISC  R05    16x,12x,8x,4x
Philips  081    12x,8x,4x
Plasmon1 C01    12x,8x,4x
Plasmon2 C01    16x,12x,8x,4x
RICOHJPN R02    12x,8x,4x
RICOHJPN R03    16x,12x,8x,4x
RITEK    P16    16x,12x,8x,4x
RITEK    R03    12x,8x,4x
RITEK    R04    16x,12x,8x,4x
SKC      P16    16x,12x,8x,4x
SKYMEDIA R03    8x,4x
SONY     D11    12x,8x,4x
SONY     D21    16x,12x,8x,4x
TDK      002    12x,8x,4x
TDK      003    16x,12x,8x,4x
ULTRAN   202    8x,4x
ULTRAN   212    16x,12x,8x,4x
VANGUARD 001    8x,4x
VDSPMSAB 002    8x,4x
VDSPMSAB 004    16x,12x,8x,4x
VIVA     002    8x,4x
WFKA11   211    8x,4x
WINGSHIN 001    12x,8x,4x
YUDEN000 T02    12x,8x,4x
YUDEN000 T03    16x,12x,8x,4x
Yi Jhan  004    16x,12x,8x,4x

DVD+RW  supported media types:   17
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CMC MAG  W01-000 2.4x
CMC MAG  W02-000 4x,2.4x
INFODISC A01-002 4x,2.4x
INFODISC A10-000 4x,2.4x
MBIPG101 W03-000 2.4x
MCC      A01-000 2.4x
OPTODISC OP4-001 4x,2.4x
PCAV_DVD _ZO-078 2.4x
PRODISC  W01-002 4x,2.4x
PRODISC  W02-000 4x,2.4x
RICOHJPN W01-001 2.4x
RICOHJPN W11-001 4x,2.4x
RITEK    001-001 2.4x
RITEK    004-000 4x,2.4x
RITEK    004-048 4x,2.4x
SENTINEL W02-000 4x,2.4x
SONY     S11-000 4x,2.4x

DVD-R   supported media types:  122
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1FUJIFILM       4x
4M SYS 202C1    4x
AML             4x
AN31            4x
AN32            4x
BeAll G00001    4x
BeAll G16001    16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
BeAll G40001    4x
BeAll G80001    12x,8x,4x,2x
CMC MAG.        4x
CMC MAG. AE1    12x,8x,4x,2x
CMC MAG. AF1    4x
CMC MAG. AM3    16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
DATA TRACK      4x
DAXON004        4x
DAXON008S       16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
DAXON016S       16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
DKMZ01          8x,4x,2x
Dvsn A001       4x
Dvsn-160        16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
Dvsn-80         8x,4x,2x
FORNEX101       4x
FUJIFILM02      4x
FUJIFILM03      8x,4x,2x
FUJIFILM04      12x,8x,4x,2x
GSC001          4x
GSC001          4x
GSC001          4x
GSC002          4x
GSC003          8x,4x,2x
GSC004          8x,4x,2x
IMC JPN         8x,4x,2x
INFODISC-R01    4x
INFODISC-R20    8x,4x,2x
INFOMEDIAR20    4x
INFOSMART01     8x,4x,2x
ISSM     01     4x
ISSM R01        8x,4x,2x
LEADDATA S03    8x,4x,2x
LEADDATA S04    16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
LEADDATA01      4x
LGE08           8x,4x,2x
LONGTEN 001     4x
LONGTEN 003     4x
LONGTEN 009     4x
MAM4XG01        4x
MAM4XG02        4x
MAM8XG01        8x,4x,2x
MBI             4x
MBI 01RG20      4x
MBI 01RG40      16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
MBI 01RG40      16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
MBI 03RG30      8x,4x,2x
MBI 03RG40      16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
MBI03RG30       8x,4x,2x
MCC 00RG200     4x
MCC 01RG20      4x
MCC 02RG20      12x,8x,4x,2x
MCC 03RG20      16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
MCI4XG01        4x
MJC ME          8x,4x,2x
MUST 001        4x
MUST 003        4x
MUST 007        8x,4x,2x
MXL RG01        4x
MXL RG02        4x
MXL RG03        12x,8x,4x,2x
MXL RG04        16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
NAN YA F02      16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
NANYA-JC001     4x
NSDR40          12x,8x,4x,2x
ONIDTECH        4x
OPTODISCK001    4x
OPTODISCK001    4x
OPTODISCR004    4x
OPTODISCR008    8x,4x,2x
OPTODISCR016    16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
POMS3A          8x,4x,2x
POMSI002        8x,4x,2x
POSG04          4x
POSG06          8x,4x,2x
PRINCO          4x
PRINCO8X02      8x,4x,2x
PRODISCG02      4x
Plasmon1A       8x,4x,2x
ProdiscF01      12x,8x,4x,2x
ProdiscF02      16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
ProdiscS03      4x
ProdiscS04      12x,8x,4x,2x
ProdiscS05      16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
RITEKF1         16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
RITEKG03        4x
RITEKG04        4x
RITEKG05        8x,4x,2x
RITEKG06        12x,8x,4x,2x
RITEKM02        4x
SKC Co.,Ltd.    4x
SKC M801        8x,4x,2x
SONY            4x
SONY04D1        4x
SONY08D1        16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
SONY16D1        16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
TAIYOYUDEN      4x
TAROKO-MX4      4x
TAROKO-MX8      8x,4x,2x
TDKG02000000    4x
TTG01           4x
TTG02           8x,4x,2x
TTH01           12x,8x,4x,2x
TTH02           16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
TYG01           4x
TYG02           16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
TYG03           16x,12x,8x,4x,2x
ULTRAN102       8x,4x,2x
UME01           8x,4x,2x
VANGUARD        4x
VDSPMSAB 01     4x
WFI A40001      4x
WINGSHING04     4x
WINGSHING08     8x,4x,2x
Yi Jhan 001     4x
Yi Jhan 003     8x,4x,2x

DVD-RW  supported media types:   19
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CMCW02          2x
CMCW03          4x,2x
DAXON_RW2X01    2x
INFOMEDIA       2x
JVC0VictorD7    4x,2x
JVC_VictorW7    2x
MCC 01RW11n9    2x
MCC 01RW4X      4x,2x
OPTODISCW002    2x
OPTODISCW004    4x,2x
PRINCO          2x
PRINCORW0004    4x,2x
PRINCORW2X01    2x
Prodisc DW04    2x
Prodisc DW06    4x,2x
RITEKW01        2x
RITEKW04        4x,2x
TDK502sakuM3    2x
TDK601saku      4x,2x


#11

Well then i hope they activate it soon or release it as new firmware and some is able to get me a .cvt that i can flash my HP640c to Philips 16LS :slight_smile:


#12

Germany:

5 pack - Philips DVD+R 8x LightScribe 5.70 EUR
5 pack - Philips DVD-R 8x LightScribe 5.70 EUR
10 Pack - Verbatim CD-R 52x LightScribe 10.90 EUR

Did you already see them in a shop or was this an announcement only?
We would like to buy some of these discs, but they are hard to find…


#13

nice review…jan70…i wan those LS dvd media…

looks like i need to get this philips LS drive


#14

An office supplies retail chain (Office Centre) in the Netherlands is offering the LS Philips dvd drive but the model seems to be different from the review… it does not have the multicolor LED but two small ones labeled Writing and Disc In. Unless they used the wrong pic in the ad… the front bezel says CDRW 2400.


#15

I just got the dvdr16sl from pcworld for £69.99 (seemed a fair price) It was to replace my liteon 811s which was a right pain and far too choosy. SO I got the philips wired in (its in an external usb box) and tried to burn some data on some infiniti dvd+r disks but It never gets to finish! always burn error. This is worse than the liteon! Is there a firmware update or something to get this working? current f/w is p1.4


#16

Hi italights, and welcome to our forum.

The Philips DVDR16LS needs at least 1.6 Ampere on the 5V and 1.8 Ampere on the 12V.

Check your power supply for the external cabinet, to see how much Ampere it gives (output).

Besides there are hardly any external cabinets that will allow true 16x DVD-writing by using the USB2.0 interface.

To make sure that your drive is not faulty, try to connect it, to the IDE-interface if possible, to see if the drive will make any burns successfully.

A firmware newer then the P1.4 should be available soon.


#17

Thanks for that advice, you say hardly any enclosures will do the job. Does anybody know of one that will? I have to use an external box because my pc is an asus digimatrix, very small and no room to plug a full size dvdr in.


#18

A new firmware for the Philips DVDR16LS is available, the P1.5.

Changes from firmware P1.4 (initial release) to P1.5

[ul]Improved WOPC (Walking Optimum Power Calibration) to improve writing quality on all DVD media.

[li]Improved writing quality on DVD+R Double layer discs.
[/li]
[li]Improved writing quality on DVD+R 16x discs.[/ul]
[/li]
You can download it here.


#19

Nice one.
Any info if overspeed works now and is not disabled?

Someone make a .cvt file please and I will crossflash my HP640i :slight_smile:


#20

It is not mentioned in the changes nor in the media list, so I think we will have to wait a bit longer for overspeed. But I hope the writing quality gets even better with this upgrade.