Cd-r for old cd player

First post so let me say what a great site this is. Thanks for having me. i’ve got an old cd player that was made before the advent of cd-r compatible players and it seems to only like some old TDK’s CD-R74 and some Memorex audio only 80 minute discs. Nero CD speed say they are type 0 and type 1 dye. I’m guessing they are either cyanine or metal azo. Where can I find cyanine or metal azo discs?

I tried a philips 52X cd-r:
Manufacturer : CMC Magnetics
Code : 97m26s66f
Disc Type : CD-R
Usage : General
Recording Layer : Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)
Recording Speed : n/a
Capacity : 79:59.71
703 MB
Additional Capacity : n/a
Overburn Capacity : not tested

and the cd player definitely doesn’t like these. It just spits them out. any suggestions here…besides buying a new cd player!!! hahaha!

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Buy a new player… haha.

Umm seriously, it may be cheaper unless this is an expensive home system or something along those lines that cost lots of money and sounds good.

If it’s for a car… please replace it lol.

If you can find Taiyo Yuden they are very good and they are cyanine. Burn @ 16x. Don’t burn slower and don’t burnt @ max speed. 16x is usually the sweet spot for CD-R.

Hi miamichillin99, welcome to CDFreaks! :slight_smile:

The only current cyanine based CD-R media I can think of is CD-R made by Taiyo Yuden, which is some of the best CD-R media you can get.

They can be found online as unbranded Taiyo Yuden CD-R media, e.g. at Rima.com in the U.S. and at SVP.co.uk in Europe, and they also exist rebranded as “Maxell CD-R PRO” and as “Verbatim Pastel”.

(pseudo)Cyanine CD-Rs made by Lead Data and Princo (no jokes :p) are for some strange reasons also extremely compatible with old CD players. Friend of mine has a 16 years old Technics CD player which cannot play no other CD-Rs than Princos… Not even top quality audio TYs. :eek:
But it is quite hard to find them now, their quality is not so good and many burners cannot handle them.

Thank you all. Which of these are the cyanine TY’s:

http://www.rima.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=R&Category_Code=TY

Also anyone know B&M stores in the Us that carry any of these cyanine discs? I thought cyanine only went up to 16x, is this correct? Also any "made in " countries i need to look for?

[QUOTE=miamichillin99;2075359]Thank you all. Which of these are the cyanine TY’s:

http://www.rima.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=R&Category_Code=TY
[/QUOTE]

all :flower:

Also anyone know B&M stores in the Us that carry any of these cyanine discs? I thought cyanine only went up to 16x, is this correct? Also any "made in " countries i need to look for?

Cyanine CD-Rs went up to 52x, there is no difference between phtalocyanine and cyanine CD-Rs.
AFAIK the only 2 companies which are still making cyanine discs are Taiyo Yuden (made in Japan) and Princo (made in Taiwan, but extremely rare in Europe and USA).

[quote=miamichillin99;2075359]Also anyone know B&M stores in the Us that carry any of these cyanine discs? I thought cyanine only went up to 16x, is this correct? Also any "made in " countries i need to look for?[/quote] You may be able to find [B]Maxell CD-R PRO[/B] (but it has to be the PRO discs, not just any Maxell) in some retail shops. They should all be Taiyo Yuden and Made in Japan.

I’m going to check if these are MIJ:

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/467545/Photo-Pro-Recordable-Media-Spindle-Minutes/

If they are, then they should be cyanine TY’s correct?

[QUOTE=miamichillin99;2075551]I’m going to check if these are MIJ:

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/467545/Photo-Pro-Recordable-Media-Spindle-Minutes/

If they are, then they should be cyanine TY’s correct?[/QUOTE]
Yes :iagree:

[QUOTE=miamichillin99;2075551]I’m going to check if these are MIJ:

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/467545/Photo-Pro-Recordable-Media-Spindle-Minutes/

If they are, then they should be cyanine TY’s correct?[/QUOTE]

They are.

They can also be found at [some/all] WalMarts in the U.S. for the same price, as well as the plain Pros [no different from the Pro Photos, IMO]. Also, Maxell and Sony-branded Music CD-R tends to be Taiyo Yuden [just look on the packages for Made in Japan]. I THINK I’ve seen these at WalMart, CVS, and Walgreens. I cannot vouch for other retails. The music CD-R are rated for 32x, if I remember correctly. :iagree:

Well my theory was correct. My old Alpine car stereo only like cyanine cd-r’s. I bought the maxell cd-r pro’s for photo and they played perfectly. Here’s the info I pulled from the disc:
Manufacturer : Taiyo Yuden
Code : 97m24s01f
Disc Type : CD-R
Usage : General
Recording Layer : Dye Type 1: Long Strategy (Cyanine, AZO)
Recording Speed : n/a
Capacity : 79:59.72
703 MB
Additional Capacity : n/a
Overburn Capacity : not tested

Since I paid 20 bucks for 25 discs I want to buy more but cheaper. Is it safe to assume that if I buy these that I should get the same results:

http://www.rima.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=R&Product_Code=1160&Category_Code=TY

Why is there such a price difference b/w the different TY CD-Rs on RIMA?

[quote=miamichillin99;2075737]Since I paid 20 bucks for 25 discs I want to buy more but cheaper. Is it safe to assume that if I buy these that I should get the same results:

http://www.rima.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=R&Product_Code=1160&Category_Code=TY

Why is there such a price difference b/w the different TY CD-Rs on RIMA?[/quote] Personally I would stay away from the silver lacquer CD-Rs and get the white inkjet printable or silver inkjet printable instead, because the printable surface should provide more protection against damage to the data, which is near the top of a CD-R disc.

The silver lacquer CD-R doesn’t have this additional printable layer so it’s cheaper to produce.