Ok, ive been at it for a bit now and cant seem to get the seconds disk of doom 3 to install, i know the cd is not damaged but can not seem to make a working copy of it, ClonyXXL and A-Ray show nothing as far as copy protection, but unless in use 120% Securom NEW 4.X and set the DPM to 4x Its wont even finish the rip, its get to like 56% and fails. I though this might be cause some cd protection system write the CD data in a spiral pattern to fool backup programs. So when i use the Securom NEW 4.X it completes the rip with no errors but I can’t open the MDS/MDF Files its says its not a Valid win 32 application. So I guess i need to know if anyone else has had this problem and if and how they fixed it. Any help on this matter would be greatly apreciated. Thanks in Avdance.