CD-DVD Speed Advanced Disc Quality Class 2 Requirements?

vbimport

#1

First, I do recognize the importance of subjective judgement when forming an opinion about the quality of a burn, but anyway . . .

Has anyone determined the “break points” between Class 2 and Class 3 in “Advanced Disc Quality” such as wwenze has done for Class 1: http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?t=1445896&goto=nextnewest

And so by trial and error, scanning with different discs:

For Class 1:
PIF max 4
PIE max 9
PIF average 0.09
PIE average 1.99


#2

I could probably come to an answer if a few scans were done and stats were compared, but it would be easier to just ask Erik Deppe since CD-DVD Speed is his program. In any event, they are just a rough way of putting a scale on the ‘quality’ of a scan. Not that I have a problem with that, if nothing else it might be useful for someone not familiar with what levels are ‘good’ or ‘bad’ in a scan, and a quick glance at the different error levels and the color corresponding to them would give a basic idea of what levels are ‘good’ or ‘bad’.


#3

I didn’t want to bother Mr. Deppe (huge thanks for the great tool/toy, btw :flower: ).

Using Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.7.0.2, I came up with the following:

<TABLE style=“WIDTH: 312pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse” cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=416 border=0 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style=“WIDTH: 48pt” span=3 width=64><COL style=“WIDTH: 24pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 1170” width=32><COL style=“WIDTH: 48pt” span=3 width=64><TBODY><TR style=“HEIGHT: 13.5pt” height=18><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; WIDTH: 312pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” width=416 colSpan=7 height=18>Minimum Requirements for Class 1</TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl26 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17>PIF Max</TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>4</TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl28 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl29 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl30 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17>PIF Avg</TD><TD class=xl25 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>0.1</TD><TD class=xl25 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=4>Approx. count for 4488MB recording:</TD><TD class=xl31 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>1750</TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl32 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17>PIE Max</TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>10</TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl33 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 13.5pt” height=18><TD class=xl34 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=18>PIE Avg</TD><TD class=xl23 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>2</TD><TD class=xl23 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=4>Approx. count for 4488MB recording:</TD><TD class=xl35 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>35800</TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 13.5pt” height=18><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=7 height=18>Minimum Requirements for Class 2</TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl26 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17>PIF Max</TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>10</TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl28 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl29 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl30 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17>PIF Avg</TD><TD class=xl25 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>0.5</TD><TD class=xl25 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=4>Approx. count for 4488MB recording:</TD><TD class=xl31 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>8750</TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl32 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17>PIE Max</TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>50</TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl22 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl33 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 13.5pt” height=18><TD class=xl34 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=18>PIE Avg</TD><TD class=xl23 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>5</TD><TD class=xl23 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=4>Approx. count for 4488MB recording:</TD><TD class=xl35 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>89500</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


#4

The Advanced scanning is even more useful when checking CDs. I no longer have to rely on PlexTools for “C2” detection and can put my PX-712A out to pasture. :slight_smile:

<TABLE style=“WIDTH: 168pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse” cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=224 border=0 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style=“WIDTH: 48pt” span=3 width=64><COL style=“WIDTH: 24pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 1170” width=32><TBODY><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl32 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; WIDTH: 168pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” width=224 colSpan=4 height=17>Minimum Requirements for Class 1</TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl31 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=2 height=17>BLER Max</TD><TD class=xl26 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>9</TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”> </TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl30 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=2 height=17>BLER Avg</TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>5</TD><TD class=xl28 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”> </TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl25 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17></TD><TD class=xl25 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl25 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl29 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=4 height=17>Minimum Requirements for Class 2</TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl31 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=2 height=17>BLER Max</TD><TD class=xl26 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>74</TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”> </TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl30 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=2 height=17>BLER Avg</TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>50</TD><TD class=xl28 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”> </TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl29 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=4 height=17>Minimum Requirements for Class 3</TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl31 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=2 height=17>BLER Max</TD><TD class=xl26 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>149</TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”> </TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl30 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=2 height=17>BLER Avg</TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>100</TD><TD class=xl28 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

From my tests, apparently any number of E22 errors is considered Class 3. Any number of E32 errors is considered Class 4.


#5

A minor revision to the PIE counts for average:

<TABLE style=“WIDTH: 312pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse” cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=416 border=0 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style=“WIDTH: 48pt” span=3 width=64><COL style=“WIDTH: 24pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 1170” width=32><COL style=“WIDTH: 48pt” span=3 width=64><TBODY><TR style=“HEIGHT: 13.5pt” height=18><TD class=xl32 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; WIDTH: 312pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” width=416 colSpan=7 height=18>Minimum Requirements for Class 1</TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl26 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17>PIE Max</TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>10</TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl28 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl29 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 13.5pt” height=18><TD class=xl30 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=18>PIE Avg</TD><TD class=xl25 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>2</TD><TD class=xl25 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=4>Approx. count for 4488MB recording:</TD><TD class=xl31 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>35000</TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl26 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17>PIF Max</TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>4</TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl28 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl29 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 13.5pt” height=18><TD class=xl30 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=18>PIF Avg</TD><TD class=xl25 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>0.1</TD><TD class=xl25 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=4>Approx. count for 4488MB recording:</TD><TD class=xl31 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>1750</TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17></TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17></TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17></TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl24 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 13.5pt” height=18><TD class=xl32 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=7 height=18>Minimum Requirements for Class 2</TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl26 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17>PIE Max</TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>50</TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl28 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl29 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 13.5pt” height=18><TD class=xl30 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=18>PIE Avg</TD><TD class=xl25 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>5</TD><TD class=xl25 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=4>Approx. count for 4488MB recording:</TD><TD class=xl31 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>87500</TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 12.75pt” height=17><TD class=xl26 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=17>PIF Max</TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>10</TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl28 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl27 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD><TD class=xl29 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c0c0c0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent”></TD></TR><TR style=“HEIGHT: 13.5pt” height=18><TD class=xl30 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” height=18>PIF Avg</TD><TD class=xl25 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>0.5</TD><TD class=xl25 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” colSpan=4>Approx. count for 4488MB recording:</TD><TD class=xl31 style=“BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #c0c0c0; BORDER-LEFT: #c0c0c0; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent” x:num>8750</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

These correspond to what I see in Kprobe PI results but I don’t have a lot of faith in the counts. Tonight, I’m seeing around 60000 for an average of 5 in a full DVD. Can’t figure out why.


#6

I have an example of a test where CD-DVD decides “Class 2” where the PIE Av is 5.37. The other values are within your limits.

Concerning the average 5 for a total of 60000, does not CD-DVD count by 8 blocks bunches ? If you accept this, then, I have read somewhere that a block has (excluding parity check data) 192 rows of 172 bytes, that is 33,000 bytes. Times 8, we have 264,000. Given that a DVD is about 4,700,000,000 bytes, it follows that in a DVD we have about 17,800 bunches of 8 blocks. With 5 errors per bunch the total is 17,800 x 5 = 89,000. It is not so far from your 60000 ? But maybe I am completely wrong about the block size :wink:

Gabier


#7

Previous versions of CD-Speed calculated a kind of “optical average” based on the values in the display buffer. See this post for some examples on why this can be misleading.

The latest version 4.7.5.0 has fixed this.

G


#8

Thanks for the replies. My spreadsheet shows PIE avg 5.27 (94318 errors) in the Class 3 column but I may have made a mistake.
I knew there was a good thread about PIE average, thanks for the link. I somehow also missed the latest release: http://www.cdspeed2000.com/download.html