Cannot burn at all!

Hi
After upgrading OS to win xp sp2 the burner wont burn.
It starts ok, stucks at some point and wont finish.
I tried various software - win xp, win media player, express burn, cdburnerxp 2.2.2 and 4.0, all failed.
The burner is NEC 2510A, 2-3 years old.
Thanks
Izzy

Did you do all the updates to Windows after this reinstall of the operating system? SP2 is most like needs to update on this issue.

Oh also Welcome to the forum. :smiley:

Hi
Thanks for wellcome!
Yes, the update are done auto, and Belarc report shows all are in.
canthe problem be related to firmware update? i didnt do, I do not know if I should, I dont know how to do.
izzy

This is an older NEC drive, but from personal experience I can confirm it should work with XP SP2.

One thing I’d suggest is to look at the fragmentation of your hard drive, since installing a load of stuff with SP2, it might have become too fragmented to deliver the data fast enough to the DVD writer. You can use ImgBurn and look at the computer buffer filling; and whether the drive buffer is adequately supplied.

Anything else you have changed, such as a new batch of discs? Failing to finish the burn could also be due to newer media types not being compatible with an older burner.

[I]
Nothing to do with the drive problem: but you should also update Belarc Advisor and its dataset if you haven’t already done so. There are newer editions for it and you may find other XP updates are available and highlighted.[/I]

Hi
Disk c: looks clean, only 5G out of 10G are used, it also looks not fragmented. Anayzing says no need to fragment.
Media - I did not change. it may be bad media but I could burn before with the same.
Izzy

OK well that’s something then. You shouldn’t need new firmware if it all worked before and the discs are the same.

Nevertheless I’d still test it with ImgBurn and see what happens to the buffers during a burn. They’ll fluctuate a bit but shouldn’t drop below ~80%.

Are you just burning DVDs, or doing format conversions as well? Having around 5 GB spare may not be enough drive space for the latter.

Is this an internal or external burner?

I ll try imgburn, let me know where to find it.

all tests were done to create an Audio CD from mp3. A lot of conversions. Still - same worked before I installed the SP2. when the c: was severly fragmented.
(I decided on reinstalling the SP2 + formatting c: because it was so much fragmented.)
I do not want to introduce more troubles, but rather to provide more info…

it is internal burner

ImgBurn is here… : http://www.imgburn.com/

Edit: Seeing as you are doing conversions, can you be sure that the problem is definitely durning the burning stage and not the converting?

yes, it is sure.
It may happen that 2 tracks are burnt and 8 more - nothing, and the 2 are readable (hearable).
or 2 tracks burnt and other 8 - only the track name exist on CD (cda3, cda4 etc…) but cannot be played.

OK I see… it sounds like the problem is happening early on in the burn then.

Does the same thing happen with other types of data - different from audio CDs?

Can you download CD-DVD Speed (doesn’t need installing), fire it up and put one of these unused discs in the drive. Then click the ‘Disc Info’ tab and tell us what the Media ID is…

This will require some time…my pc is far away…I ll do it later and post the results.
some more information - When i used win media player i watched it “converting” all files, then “copying to cd” ( or close to…), and stuck at the end of the process with some error announced.
I also changed the drive setup (in “properties”) to used drive E: where i have 20G spare or more, but same results.
Thanks for the help, hope to get more help tomorrow after I post the results.
Izzy

OK no probs… :slight_smile: In the meantime if you could also locate an error log for one of those burns, that would help a lot.

cdburnerxp sent error 336130, couldnt find what it means.
I saw that you are from Gambia, correct? if so - I ll be back to the forum in 8-9 hours. and at home, near the PC. I believe it is you afternoon?

Thanks again
Izzy

Hmmm… well for that application, you’re not alone in having a similar problem: see here --> http://cdburnerxp.se/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5235&p=19115&hilit=+error+iso+writing#p19115

I was in The Gambia for a few years, but now back in Blighty (on GMT). I know where I’d rather be at this time of year though :slight_smile:

back again!
I burnt img of data foles - 110mb, was ok.
Then I prepared img of audio tracks 650mb, tried to burn. imgburn stuck on writing leadin, I aborted after 6 min…
CDtest-got thid:
CDR
Plasmon
97m27s18f
write speed 4x…32x
703mb

on disc quality test:
drive NEC 2510A
firmware 2.19
disc data (plasmon)
c1 c2 - no errors.

I ran out of CDRs lol

by the way - took me some time to figure out that I have to prepare an img, then burn. Audio I converted first with CDEX1.50, then img, then burn (and stuck with leadin).

Izzy

I would either get better media or buy a newish burner right away.

And what about the challenge?? The winning?

last thing that happened is that the burner can read all, but if trying to imgburn an iso file it stuck on leadin. also couldnt format a DVD+RW.
Izzy

Hi
took me sometime till I finished all experiments with softwares, to try to diconnect and reconnect the IDE cable from the NEC 2510A, then the burner started reading and writing, thanks god!!

Now - it wont write at hi speed (after failing at max speed i succeeded at 4X, an iso file 650mb):
this is nero log, Thanks to whoever helps:


Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead
ero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 7/12/2006 11:58:31 AM 

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 6.6.1.6
Internal Version: 6, 6, 1, 6
 (Nero Express)
Recorder:             <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A>    Version: 2.19 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.1.6
 Adapter driver:      <IDE>                     HA 1
 Drive buffer  :      2048kB
 Bus Type      :      default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM:               <_NEC     DVD_RW ND-2510A >Version: 2.19 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.1.6
 Adapter driver:      <IDE>                     HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral       : WDC WD400JB-00ENA0               atapi Port 0 ID 0  DMA: On 
DiskPeripheral       : HDS722580VLAT20                  atapi Port 0 ID 1  DMA: On 
CdRomPeripheral      : _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A             atapi Port 1 ID 0  DMA: On 

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A       D:   CDRom0
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs: 
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE           : 0
Physical memory     : 510MB (523056kB)
Free physical memory: 71MB (73348kB)
Memory in use       : 85 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry    : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0) 

27.11.2007
CD Image
11:13:20 PM	#1 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3012
	_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A
	Buffer underrun protection activated
	
11:13:20 PM	#2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 531
	ReadBuffer-Pipe got 72704KB of Memory
	
11:13:20 PM	#3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
	Reader running
	
11:13:20 PM	#4 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
	Writer _NEC     DVD_RW ND-2510A  running
	
11:13:20 PM	#5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3305
	Turn on Disc-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media
	
11:13:20 PM	#6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 281
	Last possible write address on media:   359848 ( 79:59.73)
	Last address to be written:             317413 ( 70:34.13)
	
11:13:20 PM	#7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 293
	Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
	
11:13:20 PM	#8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2612
	Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A
	
11:13:20 PM	#9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 459
	>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
	=========================================
	
11:13:20 PM	#10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
	Setup items (after recorder preparation)
	 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, ISO 9660)
	    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
	    original disc pos #0 + 317414 (317414) = #317414/70:32.14
	    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required,  patch infos
	    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 317414 blocks [_NEC     DVD_RW ND-2510A]
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
11:13:20 PM	#11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
	Prepare recorder [_NEC     DVD_RW ND-2510A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
	DAO infos:
	==========
	 MCN: ""
	 TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
	 Tracks 1 to 1:
	   1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos             0        307200     650371072, ISRC ""
	DAO layout:
	===========
	 __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
	    -150 |  lead-in |   0 |    0x41 | 0x00
	    -150 |        1 |   0 |    0x41 | 0x00
	       0 |        1 |   1 |    0x41 | 0x00
	  317414 | lead-out |   1 |    0x41 | 0x00
	
11:13:20 PM	#12 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 38
	SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME
	
11:13:20 PM	#13 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 83
	SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME
	
11:13:20 PM	#14 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
	Caching of files started
	
11:13:20 PM	#15 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4145
	Cache writing successful.
	
11:13:20 PM	#16 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
	Caching of files completed
	
11:13:20 PM	#17 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
	Burn process started at 32x (4,800 KB/s)
	
11:13:20 PM	#18 SPTI -1189 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 289
	D: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1189)
	Sense Key:  0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
	Sense Code: 0x30
	Sense Qual: 0x02
	CDB Data:   0xAD 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 40 00 00 00 
	Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 02 
	Buffer x03116a00: Len x4000
	
11:13:20 PM	#19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2707
	Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, no disc pos, patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
	
11:13:20 PM	#20 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 17243
	StartDAO : CD-Text - Off
	
11:13:20 PM	#21 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21910
	Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON 
	
11:13:20 PM	#22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 17471
	CueData, Len=32
	41 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 
	41 01 00 10 00 00 00 00 
	41 01 01 10 00 00 02 00 
	41 aa 01 14 00 46 22 0e 
	
11:15:56 PM	#23 SPTI -1135 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 289
	D: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1135)
	Sense Key:  0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
	Sense Code: 0x0C
	Sense Qual: 0x00
	CDB Data:   0x2A 00 00 02 C9 E0 00 00 20 00 00 00 
	Sense Area: 0x70 00 03 00 02 C7 57 0A 00 00 00 00 0C 
	Buffer x0b7a0000: Len x10000
	0x0B F9 0E FB EC F8 FE FA D2 F8 F6 FA BD F8 FA FA 
	0xB1 F8 09 FB B1 F8 23 FB BF F8 49 FB DB F8 7A FB 
	0x03 F9 B3 FB 36 F9 F1 FB 75 F9 30 FC C0 F9 6E FC 
	
11:15:56 PM	#24 CDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
	Write error
	D: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A
	
11:15:56 PM	#25 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
	all writers idle, stopping conversion
	
11:15:56 PM	#26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
	conversion idle, stopping reader
	
11:15:56 PM	#27 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
	Burn process failed at 32x (4,800 KB/s)
	

Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=8.0.0.212 , size=2560 bytes, created 10/5/2006 4:42:42 AM 
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=3.00.41a, size=36560 bytes, created 9/27/2006 11:53:22 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)