Can copy on DVD+RW but not on DVD+R

Recently, every time I try to burn a project on a DVD+R disc, it stops in about a minute with a pop-up that says the burn failed.

But there’s no problem when I use DVD+RW discs. They burn perfectly.

The failed disk has the audio and video folders and has the vob files, but all the file sizes are zero.

This happens on the latest version of 9 and on the last release of 8. But it also happens on an old version of 8 (before Qt) that I still have.

Until about a month ago, burning on +R discs worked fine.

Is there a setting that may have got changed somehow that I need to tweak?

Hmmm… could be a problem with your burner or it could be software related.

What burn engine are you using?

[B]Wombler[/B]

[QUOTE=Wombler;2687068]What burn engine are you using?
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I was using the internal burn engine with DVDFab, but when you asked that, I tried it with ImgBurn. It reported an error at 5%.

(I screen captured the error window, but don’t know how to include it here, since when I click on the Insert Image icon, it asks for a URL, not a file.)

But now I know that it happens in DVDFab’s VSO engine, using the ImfBurn engine in DVDFab, and when I use ImgBurn independently.

When I look at the files on the partially burned disc, it shows them as if it had copied completely, but if I try to play it, the movie starts fine (with VTS_01[SIZE=1]_1.VOB)[/SIZE] and then goes black at about 6 minutes. Since it starts playing, it seems that ImgBurn finalized the aborted copy.

I’m wondering it’s the burner, but why would it burn OK with DVD+RW, but not with DVD+R?

[QUOTE=joelrosado;2687081]I was using the internal burn engine with DVDFab, but when you asked that, I tried it with ImgBurn. It reported an error at 5%.

(I screen captured the error window, but don’t know how to include it here, since when I click on the Insert Image icon, it asks for a URL, not a file.)

But now I know that it happens in DVDFab’s VSO engine, using the ImfBurn engine in DVDFab, and when I use ImgBurn independently.

When I look at the files on the partially burned disc, it shows them as if it had copied completely, but if I try to play it, the movie starts fine (with VTS_01[SIZE=1]_1.VOB)[/SIZE] and then goes black at about 6 minutes. Since it starts playing, it seems that ImgBurn finalized the aborted copy.

I’m wondering it’s the burner, but why would it burn OK with DVD+RW, but not with DVD+R?[/QUOTE]Sounds like a bad bunch of Blank media to me I have had the same thing happen a few times have you got a different batch of +r media you could try?

[QUOTE=xorsists;2687084]Sounds like a bad bunch of Blank media to me I have had the same thing happen a few times have you got a different batch of +r media you could try?[/QUOTE]

Yes. I tried it with two different brands of DVD+R and another of DVD-R. All stop writing and report an error after a few minutes (big waste of media).

I checked and the burner has the latest firmware.

Tomorrow I’m going to try it with another burner and see what happens.

Try burning the files separately with ImgBurn and see what happens.

If there’s still the same problem post the ImgBurn log here and that should help identify what’s wrong.

[B]Wombler[/B]

@ joelrosado , I’m sure there are instructions for posting an image but here they are.
Most likely you don’t want to use the Insert Image icon method.
That is for images you have on a hosting site like photobasket.
There is a way to use the photo journal here at this site too.

What I do & most also do is:

  1. Select “Go Advanced”
  2. Select “Manage Attachments”
  3. Browse to the image location on your computer &
    select the image you want.
  4. Upload it.
    This method will place the image at the bottom of your post.

If the image is the allowed size . I think it is autoresized but I’m not sure about that. If the image won’t upload because of the size use an image software to resize it.

You can also use the "paper clip " icon at the top & insert a specific image as you go.
Hope that is enough instruction.

For the problem : I think it is the drive.

This is a test using the Insert Image for a club.myce album

Seems to have worked . So it is possible to use club.myce as the hosting site . If you prefer that method.

[QUOTE=Wombler;2687119]Try burning the files separately with ImgBurn and see what happens.

If there’s still the same problem post the ImgBurn log here and that should help identify what’s wrong.
[B]Wombler[/B][/QUOTE]

I tried it with ImgBurn separately yesterday. From a folder (created with DVDFa[SIZE=1]b 9.0.3.8)[/SIZE] to the DVD-R:

; //\
; ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 - Log
; Tuesday, 07 May 2013, 13:28:27
; \
//
;
;
I 13:21:56 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started!
I 13:21:56 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)
I 13:21:56 Total Physical Memory: 4,127,224 KB - Available: 2,107,848 KB
I 13:21:56 Initialising SPTI…
I 13:21:56 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices…
I 13:21:56 -> Drive 1 - Info: TSSTcorp DVD±RW TS-H653G D200 (D:) (ATA)
I 13:21:56 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
I 13:24:30 Operation Started!
I 13:24:30 Building Image Tree…
I 13:24:52 Checking Directory Depth…
I 13:24:52 Calculating Totals…
I 13:24:52 Preparing Image…
I 13:24:52 Checking Path Length…
I 13:24:52 Contents: 9 Files, 2 Folders
I 13:24:52 Content Type: DVD Video
I 13:24:52 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 13:24:52 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 13:24:52 Volume Label: Silver Linings Playbook
I 13:24:52 IFO/BUP 32K Padding: Enabled
I 13:24:52 Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
I 13:24:52 TV System: NTSC
I 13:24:52 Size: 4,482,537,472 bytes
I 13:24:52 Sectors: 2,188,739
I 13:24:52 Image Size: 4,483,153,920 bytes
I 13:24:52 Image Sectors: 2,189,040
I 13:25:00 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:30
I 13:25:00 Operation Started!
I 13:25:00 Source File: -==//[BUILD IMAGE]/==-
I 13:25:00 Source File Sectors: 2,189,040 (MODE1/2048)
I 13:25:00 Source File Size: 4,483,153,920 bytes
I 13:25:00 Source File Volume Identifier: Silver Linings Playbook
I 13:25:00 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 42A76B0F002166EA
I 13:25:00 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.5.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 13:25:00 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 13:25:00 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 13:25:00 Destination Device: [2:1:0] TSSTcorp DVD±RW TS-H653G D200 (D:) (ATA)
I 13:25:00 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: PRODISC-R05-01) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x)
I 13:25:00 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 13:25:00 Write Mode: DVD
I 13:25:00 Write Type: DAO
I 13:25:00 Write Speed: MAX
I 13:25:00 DVD+R Reserve Track: No
I 13:25:00 Link Size: Auto
I 13:25:00 Lock Volume: Yes
I 13:25:00 Test Mode: No
I 13:25:00 OPC: No
I 13:25:00 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 13:25:00 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 22,160 KB/s (16x)
I 13:25:00 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 13:25:00 Filling Buffer… (40 MB)
I 13:25:04 Writing LeadIn…
I 13:25:20 Writing Session 1 of 1… (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2189039)
I 13:25:20 Writing Track 1 of 1… (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2189039)
W 13:25:44 Failed to Write Sectors 111136 - 111167 - Reason: Logical Unit Communication CRC Error (ULTRA-DMA/32)
W 13:25:44 Retrying (1 of 20)…
W 13:25:48 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:48 Retrying (2 of 20)…
W 13:25:48 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:48 Retrying (3 of 20)…
W 13:25:48 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:48 Retrying (4 of 20)…
W 13:25:48 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:48 Retrying (5 of 20)…
W 13:25:48 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:48 Retrying (6 of 20)…
W 13:25:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:49 Retrying (7 of 20)…
W 13:25:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:49 Retrying (8 of 20)…
W 13:25:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:49 Retrying (9 of 20)…
W 13:25:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:49 Retrying (10 of 20)…
W 13:25:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:49 Retrying (11 of 20)…
W 13:25:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:49 Retrying (12 of 20)…
W 13:25:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:49 Retrying (13 of 20)…
W 13:25:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:49 Retrying (14 of 20)…
W 13:25:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:49 Retrying (15 of 20)…
W 13:25:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:49 Retrying (16 of 20)…
W 13:25:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:49 Retrying (17 of 20)…
W 13:25:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:49 Retrying (18 of 20)…
W 13:25:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:49 Retrying (19 of 20)…
W 13:25:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:25:49 Retrying (20 of 20)…
W 13:25:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:26:43 Retrying (21)…
W 13:26:43 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 13:26:45 Retrying (22)…
W 13:26:45 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
E 13:26:48 Failed to Write Sectors 111136 - 111167 - Reason: Logical Unit Communication CRC Error (ULTRA-DMA/32)
E 13:26:48 Next Writable Address: 111152
I 13:26:48 Synchronising Cache…
I 13:26:54 Closing Track…
I 13:26:56 Finalising Disc…
E 13:28:12 Failed to Write Image!
I 13:28:12 Exporting Graph Data…
I 13:28:12 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_DVD±RW_TS-H653G_D200_TUESDAY-MAY-07-2013_1-25_PM_PRODISC-R05-01_MAX.ibg
I 13:28:12 Export Successfully Completed!
E 13:28:12 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:03:12
I 13:28:12 Average Write Rate: 2,554 KB/s (1.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 10,254 KB/s (7.4x)
I 13:28:26 Close Request Acknowledged
I 13:28:26 Closing Down…
I 13:28:27 Shutting down SPTI…
I 13:28:27 ImgBurn closed!
;

(This is for DVD±R media - it burns fine on DVD+RW media)

[QUOTE=cholla;2687128]@ joelrosado , I’m sure there are instructions for posting an image but here they are.
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Thanks very much for the quick tutorial. Very helpful.

Following your instructions I’ve attached two screens from ImgBurn related to the failed burn.



Okay that’s helped a lot.

According to ImgBurn’s author “UDMA errors are usually related to the cable/controller (and controller drivers)”.

So the first thing to do would be to try another cable in case the one you have is now faulty.

[B]Wombler[/B]

I haven’t had this problem so I googled it’This is what I found.
This shouldn’t be your problem but I thought I would inclued it.
The jumper on the drive is wrong.

These could be:
A bad cable on the drive. Try another cable.

This is from the FAQ on the ImgBurn forum.
It involves uninstalling the controller to reset DMA

They didn’t list bad drive but it might have just gone bad.

Looks like Wombler was a little ahead of me

[QUOTE=Wombler;2687188]Okay that’s helped a lot.

According to ImgBurn’s author “UDMA errors are usually related to the cable/controller (and controller drivers)”.

So the first thing to do would be to try another cable in case the one you have is now faulty.
[B]Wombler[/B][/QUOTE]

I did try a new cable. No help.

Then I downloaded the firmware for the burner and tried to install it, but got an error message. It also messed up my Win7 OS (which after a reboot, was not functioning properly), the device driver and the burner, which would not stop spinning (empty)
or eject.

I had to install my cloned backup of the hard drive and another, older burner.

All is working well now.

Thanks to everybody who responded. I tried all your suggestions and finally came to the same conclusion: bad burner.

It can be a bit tedious at times trying to track these sorts of things down so I’m glad to hear you got it sorted and at least burners are cheap to replace these days.

[B]Wombler[/B]

I guess I’ve been lucky with firmware updates. I’ve never even bricked a drive with one.
It must have installed some drivers in your OS as well. Otherwise just unplugging the drive should have fixed any conflict with the OS. You might have needed to uninstall the drive from Device Manager too.
You might give those a try next time before you do a restore from a backup.
Not that there’s anything wrong with doing it that way.