Calling All Pioneer 108 Owners Help Needed?

Hi peeps im having nothing but bother since updating to this newer model of the pioneer range, first of all i couldnt get it to show up in recordnow max 4.5, then after reading various posts in here and installing a few dls i got it up, now its slower than ever and i cant install the 1.14 firmware for some unknown reason, i have followed guides to the letter and get the same error messages that the firmware files can not be found or reconised or somthing so a fools guide from start to finish would be swell, and my latest and biggest problem is every now and then while writting the 108 crashes during a burn and takes over my pc everything goes slow and the only way to shut my pc off and get the disc out is to hold the power button in which i hate and forcing the pc to close, its wild ive made more coasters and lost more sleep this week than the whole year i had the 106, im starting to wich i went with someone else instead of pioneer due to all these probs im having


i bought a 108 2 weeks ago. so far it has performed perfectly. i would uninstall recordnow! 4.5 and try Nero 6.
other things to try >>>

  1. go through the 10 points listed @ [ you may not be a newbie, but the trouble is, and might be related to one or more of the listed items ]. note: very important to keep the transfer mode on IDE channels in DMA mode. check them every now and then as the transfer mode can change without you being notified. see this MS article

  2. a) know your drive’s capabilities. use nero info tool to discover them. also go to the drive maker’s website and find out what media types and brands, and at what speed to those media types, the drive supports. [ eg., my pioneers 107d & 108a can burn to dvd-rw @ 4x without trouble, but my optorite 401 can only burn @ 2x to dvd-rw even though Nero and other burning programs will allow the drive to burn @ 4x and will produce a “successfull” disc @ 4x…but the result is a coaster ] b) update the firmware of the drive. check for updates @

  3. a) try another brand of CD/DvD disc. b) try burning at lower speed. eg., don’t burn at 24x to 16x media; burn according to MEDIA speed limits, don’t try to burn at the cd/dvd drive’s max speed until you are certain that you can do so without negative consequences.

  4. a) disable and/or uninstall any virtual drives. b) install an aspi layer. preferred is v460. get it @

  5. a) update the burning program you are using to the latest release. b) uninstall any recently installed software. c) do a virus scan, and a scan with spybot s & d [ get it @ ]

  6. for XP or Win2K users, optimise your operating system Services for best system performance. for info go to and

  7. before burning, open taskmanager and shutdown ALL unneeded processes that are running. DON’T commence a virus scan or a defrag before or during a burn - sadly, i have seen it happen !

  8. a) try another burning software and see if you get a better result. deepburner standard is free. get it @ b) for users of alcohol 120%, update to the latest drives support DLL [ look for topic “Alcohol 120% Device Support Patch Released” @ ] c) if you have multiple burning softwares installed, uninstall them all, then install one. test it. install another if needed. test it, and so on…

  9. make sure mainboard chipset drivers are up to date. make sure all cables and jumpers connected to drives are correctly configured with regard to master/slave setup.

  10. enter your BIOS and disable anything you don’t use. set memory speeds to default. set cpu speed to default. if you overclock, DON’T [ until you are certain that overclocking is not the cause of the trouble ].

  11. if you still cannot fix the problem, try the drive or the CD/DvD disc you are having problems with in another PC that has no burning issues [ if possible ]

  12. Disable autorun…unless you really need it for some purpose. for XP users go to start/run/type REGEDIT.EXE then click OK
    press Ctrl+F, type NoDriveTypeAutoRun in the box/find next
    doubleclick the highlighted key and replace the HEX value with b5
    repeat for each NoDriveTypeAutoRun key found. reboot.

the thing is my pioneer 108 crashes all the time and i have to manually knock off the power to get control back i have noticed that it does this at smack on -
385.56mb every single time and if it doesnt crash at that exact point it burns all the way though, never anywhere else, also even whe the burns are ok it still paused for about 5 seconds on exactly 385.56mb so im thinking there has to be somthing wrong with my pioneer, also the firmware update wont work on my pionner 108 after trying and trying and getting the same message that it cant read the firmware ive given up trying!

all this started whe i was pasting files in my system 32 folder to get the run speeds in recordnow max 4.5 to reconise my pioneer 108, it now reconises my 108 and i have the burn speed pull down but all these new probs

not sure if it used to crash befoe dont think it did, nothing on this level though it crashes one in three burns which is a shit load of coasters

cheers anyway link

Sheesh, that’s a bit harsh. Why not install TweakUI for XP and turn off “Automatically play data CDs” in there?

tweakui can’t be relied on :slight_smile:

Do you mean unreliable or unsupported? I’ve never had a problem with just using TweakUI to stop autoplay - besides, all TweakUI does is make the registry changes for you. :slight_smile: But I guess if you want to be hardcore about it…