Cactus Audio Protection (Part 2)

First Let Me Start off by saying what hardware, programs, and cd did I
test.

Hardware used:
HP 9100 CD-RW
Pioneer DVD-ROM-105
Phillips AZ1140 BoomBox (used it to listen to the backup discs)

Software:
CloneCD
Nero Burning Rom
EAC (Exact Audio Copy)

Audio CD in question:
Da Weasel - “Podes Fugir Mas Não Te Podes Esconder” (Portuguese band)


Now here is the best description of the cd I can give:
It apparently has 2 sessions. The first with audio and the second with data.
The second session contains the following files:

AUTORUN.INF
CACTUSPJ.EXE
DATA16.BML
PJSTREAM.DLL
YUCCA.CDS

Someone has explained to me that this second session contains the music in a
unknown (at least to me) compression format and an audio player that plays
the compressed tracks.
When I ran the CACTUSPJ.EXE a player started playing the tracks. Also
interesting, the about button (of the player) provided the following
information:

Technology powered by Midbar Tech Ltd,
Player powered by EverAd Inc.

And I also got the following info from CloneCD’s info on inserted disc
function (which looks pretty accurate):

Number of sessions: 2
CD contains CD-Text: No
Size used on Disc: 764514 kBytes
Sectors: 332850
Time: 73:58:00 (Min:Sec:Fra)

Info on Session 1:
Size used in Session: 527525 kBytes
Number of Tracks: 16
Track 1: Audio, Size: 13535 kBytes
Track 2: Audio, Size: 43670 kBytes
Track 3: Audio, Size: 32114 kBytes
Track 4: Audio, Size: 40882 kBytes
Track 5: Audio, Size: 7830 kBytes
Track 6: Audio, Size: 52042 kBytes
Track 7: Audio, Size: 48117 kBytes
Track 8: Audio, Size: 32656 kBytes
Track 9: Audio, Size: 40856 kBytes
Track 10: Audio, Size: 16395 kBytes
Track 11: Audio, Size: 49509 kBytes
Track 12: Audio, Size: 8153 kBytes
Track 13: Audio, Size: 45124 kBytes
Track 14: Audio, Size: 57993 kBytes
Track 15: Audio, Size: 13886 kBytes
Track 16: Audio, Size: 24755 kBytes

Info on Session 2:
Size used in Session: 210804 kBytes
Number of Tracks: 1
Track 17: Data Mode 1, Size: 210804 kBytes


Now to my tests.

CloneCD, Nero, and EAC tests with HP 9100 CD-RW

CloneCD Test
Info on inserted disc gave me this:

Number of sessions: 2
CD contains CD-Text: No
Size used on Disc: 764514 kBytes
Sectors: 332850
Time: 73:58:00 (Min:Sec:Fra)

Info on Session 1:
Size used in Session: 527525 kBytes
Number of Tracks: 16
Track 1: Audio, Size: 13535 kBytes
Track 2: Audio, Size: 43670 kBytes
Track 3: Audio, Size: 32114 kBytes
Track 4: Audio, Size: 40882 kBytes
Track 5: Audio, Size: 7830 kBytes
Track 6: Audio, Size: 52042 kBytes
Track 7: Audio, Size: 48117 kBytes
Track 8: Audio, Size: 32656 kBytes
Track 9: Audio, Size: 40856 kBytes
Track 10: Audio, Size: 16395 kBytes
Track 11: Audio, Size: 49509 kBytes
Track 12: Audio, Size: 8153 kBytes
Track 13: Audio, Size: 45124 kBytes
Track 14: Audio, Size: 57993 kBytes
Track 15: Audio, Size: 13886 kBytes
Track 16: Audio, Size: 24755 kBytes

Info on Session 2:
Size used in Session: 210804 kBytes
Number of Tracks: 1
Track 17: Data Mode 1, Size: 210804 kBytes

When reading the cd CloneCD does not SEEM to get past the first audio Track.
Or maybe I didn’t have the patience to see if it could. Because it gave me
reading times of about 6 or 7 hours. I decided to give up and cancelled the
reading.

Nero Test
When trying to copy the cd, it gave me an error message saying that
operation had failed at the beginning of the reading.
When extracting the tracks to wave files with the Save Track function it
saved tracks 2-16 with no problem. But it could not save the first audio
track (Maybe there’s some kind of protection somewhere in the beginning of
the cd)

EAC Test
Surprisingly it was able to save all the tracks as wave files with no
problems.


CloneCD, Nero, and EAC tests with DVD-ROM-105

CloneCD test

Info on inserted disc gave some odd values like this:
(and Tracks 1,2, & 3 sizes were not always the same)

Number of sessions: 2
CD contains CD-Text: No
Size used on Disc: 764514 kBytes
Sectors: 332850
Time: 73:58:00 (Min:Sec:Fra)

Info on Session 1:
Size used in Session: 527525 kBytes
Number of Tracks: 16
Track 1: Audio, Size: 689 kBytes
Track 2: Data, Size: 689 kBytes
Track 3: Data, Size: 689 kBytes
Track 4: Data, Size: 689 kBytes
Track 5: Data, Size: 689 kBytes
Track 6: Data, Size: 689 kBytes
Track 7: Data, Size: 689 kBytes
Track 8: Data, Size: 689 kBytes
Track 9: Data, Size: 689 kBytes
Track 10: Data, Size: 689 kBytes
Track 11: Data, Size: 689 kBytes
Track 12: Data, Size: 689 kBytes
Track 13: Data, Size: 689 kBytes
Track 14: Data, Size: 689 kBytes
Track 15: Data, Size: 689 kBytes
Track 16: Data, Size: 517189 kBytes

Info on Session 2:
Size used in Session: 210804 kBytes
Number of Tracks: 1
Track 17: Data Mode 1, Size: 210804 kBytes

Here is the reading log that CloneCD produced:

I 2:37:32 Starting copy from PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-105 to D:\TEMP\TEMP.ccd
I 2:37:32 Read SubChannel Data from Data Tracks: No
I 2:37:32 Read SubChannel Data from Audio Tracks: No
I 2:37:32 Fast Error Skip: No
I 2:37:32 Don’t report read errors: No
I 2:37:32 Intelligent Bad Sector Scanner: No
I 2:37:32 CD contains CD-Text: No
I 2:37:32 Reading Track 1… (Blocks 0-5893)
I 2:37:41 Reading Track 2… (Blocks 5893-404999)
I 2:41:20 Duration of operation: 00:03:48
I 2:41:20 Reading Track 17… (Blocks 241071-332850)
I 2:43:17 Duration of operation: 00:01:56
I 2:43:17 Reading finished!

I tried reading the cd at different speeds but they all produced some
really bad coasters. Some would have the whole album on the second track.
And the following tracks would be really short (3-4 seconds) with no audio.
Some tracks wouldn’t play at all.

Nero Tests

When copying the cd, it read most of the audio tracks as really short data
tracks. Only track 16 seem to contain the actual audio cos it was it took
practically the whole reading time to read that track. Didn’t bother to burn
the image cos I’m pretty sure I would give me another coaster.

When trying to save the tracks as wave files with the Save Track function,
it saved only the second track (which contained a minute or so of silence
before the track actually started to play. Most of the other tracks were
shown as really short data tracks which couldn’t be saved as wave files.

EAC Test

Produce practically the save results as saving the tracks as waves with
Nero.


My conclusion

I was able to defeat the Cactus Audio Protection by using my HP 9100 CD-RW
and EAC to save the tracks as waves and burn them to a regular cd, which was
no longer copy protected. Not exactly a 1:1 copy but it is just as good (it
allowed me to make a digital copy with the same audio quality as the
original).

I’ve heard that Plextor drives can handle Cactus much better making 1:1
copies with CloneCD. Can anyone attest to this? (I don’t have a Plextor so I
can’t test this)

My reason for posting all these stuff here.
I got too much free time. I really want to hear your opinions. Did I do
something wrong. Do you know of any other methods for getting the jog done?
Does the hardware and software you use work better?
Tnx in advance if you take the trouble to answer.

The End

Read SubChannel Data from Data Tracks: No, Read SubChannel Data from Audio Tracks: No

Have you tried it with the reading of subchannel data? I would be interested in the result.

F.P.

Yes, I’ve tried turning on & off the reading of Subchannel Data. And that produced the same results.

Thanks!:slight_smile:

Sorry but crossposting (posting the same message in more than one forum) isn’t allowed. I’ll close this one and keep the other one open. Read me reply there.