Drpino: I am sorry if I offended you, as I did come across a bit too strong. But, we were both wrong. You have purchased and used media sold under the second packaging above (retail packaging) and found it to be MCC, and I have tested media sold in the same second packaging above and found it to be CMC (by checking the MID code just like you did). I can admit that I was actually wrong, but you were also wrong. Verbatim CD-R media sold with the packaging from the first image must be Mitsubishi because it says Super AZO, and AZO is Mitsubishi dye. From what I can tell after reading your last post, apparently, Verbatim uses both MCC and CMC media when manufacturing the retail spindles pictured in the second picture above. So, Two Degrees was 100% correct, and we were both wrong. I now understand why (thank you Two Degrees) there are two different packagings. The packaging in the first image is non-retail--not sold at retail stores (I bought mine online--my jewel cased media matches the first image above). Because of the clear labeling (Super AZO logo very obvious) of this non-retail packaging, it is obvious that all media sold in the non-retail packaging must be MCC media. The second packaging is the retail packaging--media sold in the packaging could be either MCC or CMC, depending on the individual spindle (or package of jewel cases). It is totally ridiculous that Verbatim does this. If you buy Verbatim CD-Rs in the retail packaging (second image), then you have no way of knowing whether you're going to get MCC or CMC media, until after you have opened the package! At that time, you can look at the inner hub of the discs or MID code and determine whether it is MCC or CMC. Consequently, it only makes sense to buy the Verbatim CD-Rs with the non-retail packaging in the first image that clearly states "DataLifePlus" and "Super AZO". That way your guaranteed to get MCC media, since CMC media doesn't use AZO technology. Again, sorry Drpino, if I came across in an offensive way. That was not my intension. We both learned something here--Two Degrees is correct! In other words, Verbatim CD-R media sold in the retail packaging (second image above) could be either MCC or CMC. Once again, Verbatim has fooled us. Again, what Verbatim did with the packaging is totally ridiculous, and that is why it fooled both of us.