BWA Builder in 4.5.7 doesn't work

I try to run BWA Builder on it… and it doesn’t do anything. Just fails to run. This is with a Plextor Premium drive.

Can you post your log file ? also what chipset are you using? what antivirus ? Also if you go out to bwabuilder in the vso folder and run it from there do u have problems ?

gio

OK I have tried it on some other CD’s and works fine… Seems that somehow the protection Slovak that is an exe protection blocks BWA completely from running. I didn’t know BWA Builder did a log also.

I tried to create topology with Blindwrite 5 and here is the log…

11/18/2003 1:08:14 AM info ******************** Report session closed *********************
11/18/2003 1:08:03 AM warning Topology extraction failed
11/18/2003 1:08:03 AM error Topology: Exception Message Operation aborted
11/18/2003 1:08:03 AM info Topology: x8 Read required, x8 selected
11/18/2003 1:08:03 AM info Topology extraction started
11/18/2003 1:08:03 AM info Extraction successful in 04:35
11/18/2003 1:03:29 AM info Free Space on destination path 900 Mb.
11/18/2003 1:03:29 AM info Reading CD-ROM Disc [BRAVE_SOUL] - Image Size 666 Mb.
11/18/2003 1:03:29 AM info Read Audio without subcodes for track 2
11/18/2003 1:03:28 AM info Read data with subcodes PW for track 1
11/18/2003 1:03:27 AM info Reading device : 1:0:0 - PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A 1.03 [F] (Ide)
11/18/2003 1:03:27 AM info Extraction started
11/18/2003 1:02:57 AM info Launched with external parameters
11/18/2003 1:02:57 AM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.15, Internal revision 15
11/18/2003 1:02:57 AM info Autoplay driver active. Version 2
11/18/2003 1:02:57 AM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
11/18/2003 1:02:57 AM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
11/18/2003 1:02:57 AM info Version 5.0.1.112
11/18/2003 1:02:57 AM info Title : BlindWrite 5.0.1.112
11/18/2003 1:02:57 AM info ExeName : “C:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\bw.exe”
11/18/2003 1:02:57 AM info OS : Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)
11/18/2003 1:02:56 AM info ******************** Report session started ********************

Seems no matter what I set. This cd’s topology can not be read and the automatic setting says it’s not required… seems the protection on it is preventing topology. Any ideas?

well you first need to update to newest blindwrite .

www.vso-software.fr

then try to run it again. remember unistall older version and reboot and install new. Then try to backup the cd again

also what chipset are you running ? I also notice your plex drive the new one.

gio

also I just read your log ? your post says you used plex premium but in your log it says your using plex 708a . May I ask which one your using ? Also Topology extraction doesn’t work with PX-708, this is a known issue. It will be fixed in the next release.

also what game is this ? i never heard of it and it is exactlly 666 mb?

Seems that somehow the protection Slovak that is an exe protection blocks BWA completely from running.
Naw, Chaser also used this Slovak, it is just an encryption to try to hide what protection being used on the game.

I own both the Plextor Premium and the PX-708A and they both did the exact same thing.

Mainboard is the Asus NForce2 A7N8X-DX with bios version 1007.

Norton Systemworks 2003 Pro and I actually deactivated the auto protect for trying to create the image.

Game is called Brave Soul and it’s a bishoujo role playing game.

size: 420 MB (440,838,848 bytes)
size on disk: 421 MB (441,804,800 bytes)

Log attempt with newer version installed…

11/18/2003 3:56:35 AM info ******************** Report session closed *********************
11/18/2003 3:52:28 AM warning Topology extraction failed
11/18/2003 3:52:28 AM error Topology: Exception Message Operation aborted
11/18/2003 3:52:25 AM info Topology: x8 Read required, x8 selected
11/18/2003 3:52:25 AM info Topology extraction started
11/18/2003 3:52:25 AM info Extraction successful in 02:54
11/18/2003 3:49:34 AM info Free Space on destination path 1.21 Gb.
11/18/2003 3:49:34 AM info Reading CD-ROM Disc [BRAVE_SOUL] - Image Size 666 Mb.
11/18/2003 3:49:34 AM info Read Audio without subcodes for track 2
11/18/2003 3:49:32 AM info Read data with subcodes PW for track 1
11/18/2003 3:49:31 AM info Reading device : 1:1:0 - PLEXTOR CD-R PREMIUM 1.04 [G] (Ide)
11/18/2003 3:49:31 AM info Extraction started
11/18/2003 3:49:03 AM info Launched with external parameters
11/18/2003 3:49:03 AM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.16, Internal revision 16
11/18/2003 3:49:03 AM info Autoplay driver active. Version 4
11/18/2003 3:49:03 AM info ParamStr 2 = “C:\WINNT\bw5.ini”
11/18/2003 3:49:03 AM info ParamStr 1 = “/ini”
11/18/2003 3:49:03 AM info ParamStr 0 = “C:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\bw.exe”
11/18/2003 3:49:03 AM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
11/18/2003 3:49:03 AM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
11/18/2003 3:49:03 AM info Version 5.0.2.113
11/18/2003 3:49:03 AM info Title : BlindWrite 5.0.2.113
11/18/2003 3:49:03 AM info ExeName : “C:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\bw.exe”
11/18/2003 3:49:03 AM info OS : Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)
11/18/2003 3:49:03 AM info ******************** Report session started ********************

BTW Nero Info tool reports CD size as 562 mixed cd not a 666mb.

have you updated your nvidia drivers to the new ones lately ? new drivers came out awhile back. they are on nvidia site ? also what other programs do u have on your pc ? Can you do the image and not use the tweaker please and post that log. Use the plex premium too . Thanks.

I have the latest Nvidia drivers installed except for the IDE them broke my Plextools so I went back to the generic microsoft ide drivers.

11/18/2003 10:49:50 AM info ******************** Report session closed *********************
11/18/2003 10:47:49 AM info Media topology isn’t required
11/18/2003 10:47:48 AM info Extraction successful in 02:59
11/18/2003 10:44:52 AM info Free Space on destination path 1.2 Gb.
11/18/2003 10:44:52 AM info Reading CD-ROM Disc [BRAVE_SOUL] - Image Size 666 Mb.
11/18/2003 10:44:52 AM info Read Audio without subcodes for track 2
11/18/2003 10:44:50 AM info Read data with subcodes PW for track 1
11/18/2003 10:44:48 AM info Reading device : 1:1:0 - PLEXTOR CD-R PREMIUM 1.04 [G]
11/18/2003 10:44:48 AM info Extraction started
11/18/2003 10:43:54 AM info Using ASPI dll in “C:\Program Files\vso\BlindWrite\NtAspi32.Dll” version 5, 0, 0, 0
11/18/2003 10:43:54 AM info Autoplay driver active. Version 2
11/18/2003 10:43:54 AM info ParamStr 0 = “C:\Program Files\vso\BlindWrite5\BW.exe”
11/18/2003 10:43:54 AM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
11/18/2003 10:43:54 AM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
11/18/2003 10:43:54 AM info Version 5.0.2.113
11/18/2003 10:43:54 AM info Title : BlindWrite 5.0.2.113
11/18/2003 10:43:54 AM info ExeName : “C:\Program Files\vso\BlindWrite5\BW.exe”
11/18/2003 10:43:54 AM info OS : Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)
11/18/2003 10:43:53 AM info ******************** Report session started ********************

It can’t read the topology and always says it doesn’t require it. BTW I have determined this to be a problem with reading of the last track. I have read this cd in CD Inspector and it reports the Lead Out exactly where BWA Builder reports it to be at (287050) but CD Inspector reports it at (287803). I am posting the information from CD Inspector below…


The following information was collected by CD/DVD Inspector
Copyright 1997-2003, Arrowkey, Inc.

Table of Contents
There are a total of 6 tracks on disc, plus the lead-out.
No manufacturer information was returned by this disc.
Track 1 occupies 218107 blocks (48 Min, 28 Sec, 7 Frames).
This track contains data in ISO-9660 format and also contains Joliet format directory information.
Track 2 occupies 11183 blocks (2 Min, 29 Sec, 8 Frames).
This track contains audio without pre-emphasis.
Track 3 occupies 10709 blocks (2 Min, 22 Sec, 59 Frames).
This track contains audio without pre-emphasis.
Track 4 occupies 22657 blocks (5 Min, 2 Sec, 7 Frames).
This track contains audio without pre-emphasis.
Track 5 occupies 25147 blocks (5 Min, 35 Sec, 22 Frames).
This track contains audio without pre-emphasis.
Lead-out track starts at block 287803.

Data track 1 recorded as part of session 1.
The publisher field in the ISO-9660 header contains other than “a” characters.
This track has an application identifier of “20030910145451BBNF”.
There are 925 accessible files and 16 directories contained in this track.
A properly written post-gap was found for this track.

Data track 1 recorded as part of session 1.
The publisher field in the ISO-9660 header contains other than “a” characters.
This track has an application identifier of “20030910145451BBNF”.
There are 925 accessible files and 7 directories contained in this track.
One or more files are using characters which MS-DOS cannot access.

Track 2 is an audio track
No ISRC/RID code present for this track

Track 3 is an audio track
No ISRC/RID code present for this track

Track 4 is an audio track
No ISRC/RID code present for this track

Track 5 is an audio track
No ISRC/RID code present for this track

There are one or more conditions that make replication of this disc questionable.
CDDB key for this CD is 310efd06.

Track Type Track name Start Length Files Free Packet size


1 : 1 Data-4 Secured 0 218107
1 : 2 Audio 218107 11183
1 : 3 Audio 229290 10709
1 : 4 Audio 239999 22657
1 : 5 Audio 262656 25147
Lead Out 287803

The following information was collected by CD/DVD Inspector
Copyright 1997-2003, Arrowkey, Inc.

ISO-9660 data track
Volume ID: BRAVE_SOUL
System ID:
Volume size: 20992
System Use:
Volume set size: 0
Volume in set: 0
Block size (bytes): 2048
Path table size (bytes): 0
Path table (L): 47
Optional path table (L): 0
Path table (M): 48
Optional path table (M): 0
Root directory block: 49
Volume Set:
Publisher:
Data preparer:
Application:
Copyright file:
Abstract file:
Bibliography file:
Volume created: 9/10/2033 14:55:25
Volume modified: 9/10/2033 14:55:25
Volume expires: *** Date not set ***
Volume effective: *** Date not set ***
---------------------------- Big-endian format fields -----------------
Volume size: 196816
Volume set size: 1
Volume in set: 1
Block size (bytes): 0
Path table size (bytes): 136
Root directory block: 49


Now for test I used my Startcop software and disabled nearly every running software that starts up automatically and no change. I have also Alcohol, Blindwrite 4.5.7.x, and GameJack installed that I was using to try to create a topology and everyone of these failed to create a topology. They fail to read the cd when a topology is created. Nero 6 is also installed as my normal default burning software.

Oh just for a test I tried chaning from the patin drivers to aspi and the same thing happens. I than tried setting end sectors to a shorter number 216000 and with patin it still failed to run but with aspi drivers it seems to be running it on that portion of the cd fine.

Old BWA Builder is a bit buggy. Wait for new version. Until then why don’t you use BlindWrite v5 to make topology ???

R!co notice that is the problem. BW5 doesn’t think a topology is required… and when I used the tweaker to force topology it fails to extract with the error.

11/18/2003 3:52:28 AM warning Topology extraction failed
11/18/2003 3:52:28 AM error Topology: Exception Message Operation aborted
11/18/2003 3:52:25 AM info Topology: x8 Read required, x8 selected

no matter what speed I choose for Topology.

Ah sorry didn’t notice this. I think I have also one cd with this problem. Weird, if securom will use this in future…:confused: , maybe it is only bug in BW

Molitar ,

wonder could u unistall alcohol and game jack and try again . I was just wonder if software conflict ?

oops forgot to ask what protection this game has on it ?

keep us posted

Gio

molitar ,

just wonder when you are using blindwrite version 5 I just noticed in last file you posted that it has alot of audio tracks. So curious can you use blindwrite 5 and just go to copy and copy with plex premium and write with same drive . So source and destination will be same drive. you dont need Topology on this at all cause it is not securom. I have frogger which has alot of audio tracks listed below . I did mine with version 4 and version 5 of blindwrite.

here is TOC from frogger using blindwrite versoin 4
CD TOC file, created by BlindRead 4.5.7.49 at 11/18/2003 5:27:54 PM

CD Volume name : “FROGGER”

CD tracks list :

1 Session(s) - 32 Track(s) (1 Data,31 Audio)

Track 01 - MODE 2 - 00:00:00 (000000) to 22:17:65 (100340)
Track 02 - AUDIO - 22:19:66 (100491) to 24:26:44 (109994)
Track 03 - AUDIO - 24:28:45 (110145) to 26:34:32 (119582)
Track 04 - AUDIO - 26:36:33 (119733) to 28:39:72 (128997)
Track 05 - AUDIO - 28:41:73 (129148) to 30:33:02 (137477)
Track 06 - AUDIO - 30:35:03 (137628) to 32:03:08 (144233)
Track 07 - AUDIO - 32:05:09 (144384) to 32:12:12 (144912)
Track 08 - AUDIO - 32:14:13 (145063) to 34:13:43 (154018)
Track 09 - AUDIO - 34:15:44 (154169) to 36:24:55 (163855)
Track 10 - AUDIO - 36:26:56 (164006) to 38:27:38 (173063)
Track 11 - AUDIO - 38:29:39 (173214) to 39:55:51 (179676)
Track 12 - AUDIO - 39:57:52 (179827) to 41:59:53 (188978)
Track 13 - AUDIO - 42:01:54 (189129) to 42:59:67 (193492)
Track 14 - AUDIO - 43:01:68 (193643) to 45:07:07 (203032)
Track 15 - AUDIO - 45:09:08 (203183) to 46:34:08 (209558)
Track 16 - AUDIO - 46:36:09 (209709) to 48:42:13 (219163)
Track 17 - AUDIO - 48:44:14 (219314) to 50:44:10 (228310)
Track 18 - AUDIO - 50:46:11 (228461) to 53:13:44 (239519)
Track 19 - AUDIO - 53:15:45 (239670) to 54:40:72 (246072)
Track 20 - AUDIO - 54:42:73 (246223) to 56:48:54 (255654)
Track 21 - AUDIO - 56:50:55 (255805) to 58:56:73 (265273)
Track 22 - AUDIO - 58:58:74 (265424) to 59:06:02 (265952)
Track 23 - AUDIO - 59:08:03 (266103) to 59:19:04 (266929)
Track 24 - AUDIO - 59:21:05 (267080) to 59:32:06 (267906)
Track 25 - AUDIO - 59:34:07 (268057) to 59:45:08 (268883)
Track 26 - AUDIO - 59:47:09 (269034) to 59:58:10 (269860)
Track 27 - AUDIO - 60:00:11 (270011) to 60:11:12 (270837)
Track 28 - AUDIO - 60:13:13 (270988) to 60:24:14 (271814)
Track 29 - AUDIO - 60:26:15 (271965) to 60:37:16 (272791)
Track 30 - AUDIO - 60:39:17 (272942) to 60:50:18 (273768)
Track 31 - AUDIO - 60:52:19 (273919) to 61:03:20 (274745)
Track 32 - AUDIO - 61:05:21 (274896) to 61:18:22 (275872)

i also did it with blindwrite version 5 just using copy and got working copies.

That is why I wondered if it had a protection or if it didnt.

here is my log from BW 5

11/18/2003 5:50:51 PM info Report session closed
11/18/2003 5:50:28 PM info Write completed in 03:17
11/18/2003 5:50:12 PM info Finalize started
11/18/2003 5:47:11 PM info Write started
11/18/2003 5:47:11 PM info Buffer Under-run protection is enabled
11/18/2003 5:47:11 PM info Backup tagged for Autoplay
11/18/2003 5:47:11 PM info DAO PW writing mode selected
11/18/2003 5:47:11 PM info Writing speed required x24, effective x24
11/18/2003 5:47:11 PM info DAO writing mode preferred
11/18/2003 5:47:11 PM info Writing CD-ROM Disc [FROGGER] - Image Size 628 Mb.
11/18/2003 5:47:11 PM info Writing device : 1:3:0 - PLEXTOR CD-R PREMIUM 1.05 [E] (Ide)
11/18/2003 5:46:24 PM info Media topology isn’t required
11/18/2003 5:46:20 PM info Extraction successful in 02:38
11/18/2003 5:43:46 PM info Free Space on destination path 164 Gb.
11/18/2003 5:43:46 PM info Reading CD-ROM Disc [FROGGER] - Image Size 628 Mb.
11/18/2003 5:43:46 PM info Read Audio without subcodes for track 2
11/18/2003 5:43:43 PM info Read data with subcodes PW for track 1
11/18/2003 5:43:42 PM info Reading device : 1:3:0 - PLEXTOR CD-R PREMIUM 1.05 [E] (Ide)
11/18/2003 5:43:42 PM info Extraction started
11/18/2003 5:43:08 PM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.16, Internal revision 16
11/18/2003 5:43:08 PM info Autoplay driver active. Version 2
11/18/2003 5:43:08 PM info ParamStr 0 = “C:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\BW.exe”
11/18/2003 5:43:08 PM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
11/18/2003 5:43:08 PM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
11/18/2003 5:43:08 PM info Version 5.0.2.113
11/18/2003 5:43:08 PM info Title : BlindWrite 5.0.2.113
11/18/2003 5:43:08 PM info ExeName : “C:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\BW.exe”
11/18/2003 5:43:08 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
11/18/2003 5:43:02 PM info ******************** Report session started ********************

that got it working .

gio

Ok I tried using Blindwrite 4.5.7 bwa builder on a system at work that has no extra software installed. It doesn’t have a writer just a DVD Rom… The BWA builder had the same exact results… anything greater than 217750 for end sector makes the drive sit their and do nothing… BWA won’t respond even after hitting stop UNTIL I manually eject the cd than BWA will finally recognise the stop command.

It’s executable is protected by Slovak Protect which seems to hide the CDR Protection type also.

Can you try to just copy the game with either bw4 and dont do bwa or blindwrite 5 and just use the copy tab and use plex drive . I dont think you need a BWA but still doing more research. I beginning to think it dont have a protection but i could be wrong . Also if you use blindwrite 5 you can just cancel out of topology and then go and write it . I would try what is above and see if you get a working copy

slovak is not a protection . It is an ecyption.

This is the game you are trying to copy, right?? I doubt this kind of a game has a copy protection on it…