[QUOTE=tmc8080;2502619]I understand that an over 16x burn will sacrifice quality of the read in pie & pif, but 1700+ seems quite high… As I recall the Verbatim UAE dvd-r’s seemed to have much better results, at least for me. I thought the TY discs were the BEST one could buy… though the 8x were the ones that were supposed to have near ZERO pifs with reasonable pie rates (good reason why they still make them for “ARCHIVAL” purposes. We know the holy grail of zero pifs is a sort of fantasy and not necessarily a perfect indicator of long-term data integrity but more of a guide.[/QUOTE]
I burn almost exclusively at 8x, except when I test new media, then I try available burn speeds from 4x on up.
I stopped testing at 16x with these TYG03 PrintPlus because of 20K PIF’s! Crap, crap, crap. The worst performing Taiyo Yuden ever for me.
Verbatim DVD-R and DVD+R I purchased during my testing of these PrintPlus dogs proved to be better quality scans.
Also, I tested TY old stock of Silver Lacquer and matte printable T02 DVD+R and the quality was excellent per usual. I also had some disk quality scans of TYG03 DVD-R 16x Watershield disks for comparison, never had PIF above 2000’s and low Max PIF’s in comparison even at burn speed of 16x. So it’s not a question of malfunctioning burners.
I also purchased the newer TYG03 Silver Inkjet DVD-R along with the PrintPlus and they perform better than the PrintPlus but still variable, sometimes almost every other disk is a dog. I have had excellent burns with the Silver Inkjet, though, so I am not completely discouraged.
So far, I have 28 disks that are for shredding. About half of them are from testing three different media from that one purchase - DVD-R 16x TGYO3 Silver Inkjet and PrintPlus disks, and PrintPlus CD-R disks. The other half are BAD burns (done primarily at 8x) I wouldn’t rely on for archival data storage based on the horrible disk quality scans.