Burning with 16x media

Does anyone know what to do about this new 16x blank media and using an older drive. The memorex DVD-R media was purchased and it came with a card which informed me about updating my firmware in order to get it to work. I have the NEC ND 1300A drive and I updated my firmware to 1.0B which is the only update on NEC’s website. However, when I try to use nero 6 to burn something it errors and states that burn process failed at 2x and I cannot seem to figure out how to get it to burn to the new media, Any help would be great

chances are it’s failing due to crappy media. do a search on this forum for “memorex” and see all the problems it gives people.

check out the blank media forum for media recommendations and the bargain basement forum for places to get quality media at decent prices.

in the meantime, some information would be nice just to make sure this is your problem.

  • can you post the exact version number of your nero program?
  • what is the exact error message dialogue that you see?
  • post the Media ID code of the blank discs you’re using. This can be obtained from the “Disc Info” tab of Nero cd-dvd speed.

also, i’m not familiar with your drive in particular, but i’m guessing its max speed capability is not 16x, am I right? You can get away with purchasing 16x media if you’re burning at 8x, but if you’re burning any slower, i’d try to buy more properly rated media. There’s such a thing as burning TOO slow!

It’s most unlikely that your 4x ND1300A will be able to burn any 16x media very well & certainly not Memorex.
With decent 8x media you’ve got a reasonable chance as other members here can testify. Hopefully one of those still using a ND1300 will see this thread & post something more helpful.

the nero version is Nero ultra 6 edition
the error message is 'Burn process failed at 2x (2,760 KB/s)'
and the media code for the blank media is CMC MAG.AM3

as for nero version is it for example?

also, there must be more info than “burn process failed” can you post the log? (make sure you remove your serial number before posting)

i’m going with my original hunch still that you’re using poor media that your burner will not be able to burn properly.

ver 6.0.013 i believe
also i have attached burn log

Windows XP 5.1
WinAspi: File ‘Wnaspi32.dll’: Ver=?.?.?.?, size=30208 bytes, created 6/11/1997 7:01:02 PM
ahead WinASPI: File ‘C:\Program Files\Ahead
ero\Wnaspi32.dll’: Ver=, size=160016 bytes, created 6/17/2003 10:25:03 AM
Nero version: (Nero Express)
Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A> Version: 1.0B - HA 0 TA 0 -
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A >Version: 1.0B - HA 0 TA 0 -
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : OPTORITE COMBO DC4801 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : IC35L090AVV207-0 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A D: CDRom0

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523760kB)
Free physical memory: 115MB (118684kB)
Memory in use : 77 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

UDF/ISO compilation
12:37:39 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
DVD-Video files reallocation started

12:37:39 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

12:37:39 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 5805
Iso document burn settings
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

12:37:39 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
DVD-Video files sorted

12:37:39 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

12:37:39 PM #6 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3854
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

12:37:40 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3854
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

12:37:40 PM #8 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3176
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

12:37:40 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 228
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45)
Last address to be written: 2286255 (508:03.30)

12:37:40 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 233
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

12:37:40 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1722
Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: CMC MA - G. AM3
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

12:37:40 PM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 769
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2286256 (2286256) = #2286256/508:3.31
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286256 blocks [_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A ]

12:37:40 PM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 938
Prepare recorder [_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 307200 4682559488, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
-150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
-150 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
2286256 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

12:37:40 PM #14 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
Caching of files started

12:37:40 PM #15 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
Caching of files completed

12:37:40 PM #16 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
Burn process started at 2x (2,760 KB/s)

12:37:40 PM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2136
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

12:37:40 PM #18 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
Set remaining time: 28:15,651 (1695651ms) -> OK

12:37:41 PM #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1497
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

12:37:41 PM #20 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 18973
Set BUFE: JustLink -> ON

12:37:41 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1612
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

12:37:41 PM #22 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7906
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Media Specific:
60 00 10 20 30 40 50 00 - 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 00 `…0@P…!..
02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

12:37:41 PM #23 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1205
SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 0, LUN 0
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x53 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x22 0xE2 0xB0 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05

12:37:41 PM #24 CDR -1046 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1540
Illegal disc

12:37:41 PM #25 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1540
Could not perform start of Disc-at-once

12:37:41 PM #26 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

12:37:41 PM #27 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
Burn process failed at 2x (2,760 KB/s)

Existing drivers:
File ‘Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS’: Ver=2.03.18a, size=20576 bytes, created 9/23/2004 2:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File ‘Drivers\atapi.sys’: Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 9:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


that leads me to believe that it’s a media issue like i assumed in the first place.

it also looks like your nero needs an update.

plus this line is a little bothersom:

CdRomPeripheral : OPTORITE COMBO DC4801 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off

DMA should be ON for all optical drives. I don’t think this contributed to your problem with the burn (as it’s on your other drive), but do a search for enabling DMA for help in this area.

Your problem is not necessarily with the quality of the media but with the “long in the tooth” burner you are trying to burn it with. I’m sure your drive has no support for the media you are using.

I guess that too, memorex is crappy i agree but in this case it’s another thing. Maybe you’d have more luck with some 8x media.

I appreciate all your help!! I figured it was the media because I had no problems before with verbatim 4x dvd-r discs. I know you are not familiar with my NEC drive but are you telling me that there is no way to update my drive/firmware in order to accomodate 16x discs (no matter what brand it is). I mean the insert with the discs made it sound as if all you needed to do if your drive was not already compatible was to update your firmware and all will be solved. they state that your write speed won’t increase to 16x but it will recognize the media so that you can still burn even if it is at a slower speed. Also, i am somewhat of a novice when it comes to all of this stuff so the letters DMA mean nothing to me as of yet. I wouldn’t know what or where to look to enable it for my other optical drive.

Updating firmware is a fine “idea” but that assumes that NEC has an update that isn’t older than your grandpa…Do what rapid fire suggests and try some 8x media, you will have a better chance and in the end it won’t make any diff cause your drive is only going to burn at best 4x anyhow…

that insert is correct provided that the manufacturer has provided support for that media code in their firmware update. with a drive that old, i find it doubtful that they would provide 16x media support.

you may be able to return the discs even though they ar eopened on the grounds that they did not work with your drive as advertised perhaps?

thanks everyone!!!

I doubt that reason as the model of drive is quite old, I should know it’s the first one I ever bought and if memory serves me correctly it is a 4x writer. It would be the buyers responsability to check compatability as that sounds like advice on firmware and not a gaurantee…

You could try looking for modded firmware in the NEC section of the forum. Unfortunately I doubt there is any that would increase the base writing speed of the drive, but they may increase the compatability.