Burning DVD from an Image File (Iso)

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#1

I mentioned in another thread that I got a burn error (during the finalization process) when using the Write method to burn from an Image File (ISO) created using Clone. The original source DVD was Dual Layer.

Today I tried doing the same thing with a single layer DVD source and did not have any such problems. It finalized and played fine on my stand-alone DVD player.

I have a theory as to why I got that burn error. The Image File created from the dual layer DVD was over 8200mb. But within DVDFab I set the disk size for DVD-9 to 8000mb (recommended default). I consulted the online tutorial from the DVDFab website and it stated that when using the Write Function there is no compression performed at all. Which to me means that the source Folder or Image File would have to fit on the DVD-9. But an 8200mg Image file would not fit on my target DVD+R DL if I set the disk size to 8000mg.

Am I correct in this assumption? Could this be why I got the burn error at the very end of the process?


#2

[quote=captainvideo;2164851]I mentioned in another thread that I got a burn error (during the finalization process) when using the Write method to burn from an Image File (ISO) created using Clone. [B]The original source DVD was Dual Layer.[/B]

Today I tried doing the same thing with a single layer DVD source and did not have any such problems. It finalized and played fine on my stand-alone DVD player.

I have a theory as to why I got that burn error. The Image File created from the dual layer DVD was over 8200mb. But within DVDFab I set the disk size for DVD-9 to 8000mb (recommended default). I consulted the online tutorial from the DVDFab website and it stated that when using the Write Function there is no compression performed at all. Which to me means that the source Folder or Image File would have to fit on the DVD-9. But an 8200mg Image file would not fit on my target DVD+R DL if I set the disk size to 8000mg.

Am I correct in this assumption? Could this be why I got the burn error at the very end of the process?[/quote]

Im going to assume you want to CLONE a D9 DVD (DL) with DVDFab. The way i do it is first of all in settings i change a few settings and they are PathPlayer is set to ALWAYS enabled. The other two settings are under WRITE and i change DVD-5 Media to 4472 GB and i change DVD-9 to 8152 GB for ( DVD +R DL) and save those settings. I also Uncheck copy DVD video data only and Uncheck Copy original IFO Files. I clone all meaning DL and SL. I been doing it this way for moons. After DVD is in burner PathPlayer will scan it and DVDFab should be already set to CLONE. Once it’s done scanning you click on SOURCE and tell it to put your ISO to the dir on your HDD. After the ISO is made you put DVDFab in " WRITE DATA" The source will be the ini file which hold the DVD’s layer break info if it’s a DL DVD. If it’s a SL DVD it will still have a ini file but of course no layer break info inside of it. The target is your burner. Thats it.

P.S. Sometimes you will run across a DVD that reads like 40 GB in windows. Copy protection and fake files etc do that but DVDFab takes care of it all and even your CLONE will read 40 GB also but it really is’nt. DVDFab took care of that long ago. Like all software you will find one program can’t copy a certain movie and another can but when it comes to DVDFab it will burn it as the author is really on top of his programming very fast. Thats the way i do it as i don’t use any other write modes but CLONE to be as original as possible. Main movie, Full Movie and all the other modes i have but they are of no use to me. Good luck. Thats my method. As far as your burn error what is your error code and if you don’t know look in your DVDFab log file and to save you from a headache if your not using Verbatim DL +R media in my opinion your just wasting your time and 99% of this site would tell you the same.

You can call me WALL E or Wally


#3

[QUOTE=mjmagicjack;2164988]Im going to assume you want to CLONE a D9 DVD (DL) with DVDFab. The way i do it is first of all in settings i change a few settings and they are PathPlayer is set to ALWAYS enabled. The other two settings are under WRITE and i change DVD-5 Media to 4472 GB and i change DVD-9 to 8152 GB for ( DVD +R DL) and save those settings. I also Uncheck copy DVD video data only and Uncheck Copy original IFO Files. I clone all meaning DL and SL. I been doing it this way for moons. After DVD is in burner PathPlayer will scan it and DVDFab should be already set to CLONE. Once it’s done scanning you click on SOURCE and tell it to put your ISO to the dir on your HDD. After the ISO is made you put DVDFab in " WRITE DATA" The source will be the ini file which hold the DVD’s layer break info if it’s a DL DVD. If it’s a SL DVD it will still have a ini file but of course no layer break info inside of it. The target is your burner. Thats it.

P.S. Sometimes you will run across a DVD that reads like 40 GB in windows. Copy protection and fake files etc do that but DVDFab takes care of it all and even your CLONE will read 40 GB also but it really is’nt. DVDFab took care of that long ago. Like all software you will find one program can’t copy a certain movie and another can but when it comes to DVDFab it will burn it as the author is really on top of his programming very fast. Thats the way i do it as i don’t use any other write modes but CLONE to be as original as possible. Main movie, Full Movie and all the other modes i have but they are of no use to me. Good luck. Thats my method. As far as your burn error what is your error code and if you don’t know look in your DVDFab log file and to save you from a headache if your not using Verbatim DL +R media in my opinion your just wasting your time and 99% of this site would tell you the same.

You can call me WALL E or Wally[/QUOTE]

Wally:

Thanks for your detail explanation. I follow most of your settings, except I feel safer with the DVDFab recommend 4300 and 8000 settings. Any compression that might be applied because of this would not even be noticeable.

Anyway, that burn error was the first I ever got with DVDFab since I started using it to archive my DVD collection five months ago.

I always use Verbatim DVD+R DL (MIS) for Dual Layer. For single layer, I never had any problems whether I use Panasonic, Fuji, or Verbatim.

Based on my successful burning of a DVD+RW today from a cloned Image File, I just have to assume that the burn error I got the other day was due to the size of the image file being larger than the 8000mb I set for DVD-9. That is because no compression is applied in Write Data mode and the tutorial specifically states that “Your files/image must be able to fit on the blank media you have selected and be ready for burning”. An 8200+ file would not fit on a DVD-9 if I set its maximum size to 8000.

Anyway, I am not going to lose any sleep over this. While it would be nice to be able to store the cloned image file on my hard drive, using Clone in one operation has always worked.


#4

Wally:

There was one thing I did not pick up upon when reading your reply.

You said that when using Write Data, the source should be the .ini file?

Maybe that is where I went wrong! I chose the .Iso as my Source.

Please clarify this for me.

Thanks.


#5

[quote=captnvideo;2165044]Wally:

There was one thing I did not pick up upon when reading your reply.

You said that when using Write Data, the source should be the .ini file?

Maybe that is where I went wrong! I chose the .Iso as my Source.

Please clarify this for me.

Thanks.[/quote]

The ini file is used to tell DVDFab what layer break area to use for that movie. You will also get a ini file for a SL clone also but there won’t be any layer break in it as it’s a SL disc and does’nt have a 2nd layer. If you took the ISO from DVDFab and loaded it into lets say Imgburn that program would come up with multi layer break areas that you could use or you use the one thats the best out of them all. But if i were you load the ini file not the ISO in DVDFab.


#6

[quote=captainvideo;2165037]Wally:

Thanks for your detail explanation. I follow most of your settings, except I feel safer with the DVDFab recommend 4300 and 8000 settings. Any compression that might be applied because of this would not even be noticeable.

Anyway, that burn error was the first I ever got with DVDFab since I started using it to archive my DVD collection five months ago.

I always use Verbatim DVD+R DL (MIS) for Dual Layer. For single layer, I never had any problems whether I use Panasonic, Fuji, or Verbatim.

Based on my successful burning of a DVD+RW today from a cloned Image File, I just have to assume that the burn error I got the other day was due to the size of the image file being larger than the 8000mb I set for DVD-9. That is because no compression is applied in Write Data mode and the tutorial specifically states that “Your files/image must be able to fit on the blank media you have selected and be ready for burning”. An 8200+ file would not fit on a DVD-9 if I set its maximum size to 8000.

Anyway, I am not going to lose any sleep over this. While it would be nice to be able to store the cloned image file on my hard drive, using Clone in one operation has always worked.[/quote]

Im curious is this a movie DVD your cloning with a enlarged size? or something else. I never ran across a commerical DVD i could’nt clone to disc yet in a few years. If it is a movie whats the title of it because i’d get it to take a look see. I see some of these movie companies try some wild tricks but DVDFab catches them rather quick that they wasted there time with these protection tricks. Like i said i had a 40 GB DVD Movie windows was reading LOL but DVDFab ate that protection up and even cloned that DVD like nothing and even the clone read the fake 40 GB LOL.


#7

[QUOTE=mjmagicjack;2165187]Im curious is this a movie DVD your cloning with a enlarged size? or something else. I never ran across a commerical DVD i could’nt clone to disc yet in a few years. If it is a movie whats the title of it because i’d get it to take a look see. I see some of these movie companies try some wild tricks but DVDFab catches them rather quick that they wasted there time with these protection tricks. Like i said i had a 40 GB DVD Movie windows was reading LOL but DVDFab ate that protection up and even cloned that DVD like nothing and even the clone read the fake 40 GB LOL.[/QUOTE]

I am probably incorrect about the Image File size causing the problem. It was probably due to the fact that I did not choose the .ini file as my source when using Write Data.


#8

Want to solve the problem quick. Just highlight the ISO not the ini with your mouse and look at the file size. If the ISO is larger then a DL DVD even using the ini file will not help. Something else is wrong here then. But do choose for now on the ini file to burn a ISO file in DVDFab. If for example you hightlight the ISO


#9

This process of cloning [B]dual layer[/B] dvds to an Image File and using Write Data to burn from the Image File to a DVD+R DL does not work for me and I am giving up on it.

I tried it again this morning making sure that I selected the .INI as my source. It appeared to burn smoothly again until the finalization. For some reason the finalization completed prematurely and I was unable to eject the DVD from my burner until I powered it off and then on. Of course, my standalone DVD player could not read it.

There certainly is nothing wrong with my LG GSA E40L DVD burner or the Verbatim DVD+R DL (MIS) media. This combination has always worked perfectly except in this two instances where I tried to burn from a cloned image file.

Note that I WAS able to use this method successfully yesterday for a Single Layer DVD.


#10

Want to solve the problem quick. Just highlight the ISO not the ini with your mouse and look at the file size. If the ISO is larger then a DL DVD even using the ini file will not help. Something else is wrong here then. But do choose for now on the ini file to burn a ISO file in DVDFab. If for example you hightlight the ISO with your mouse and it reads 8.9 GB, 9.7 GB or whatever size thats larger then a DL DVD using the ini file will do nothing for you as this ISO is NOT NORMAL. Something is wrong. You never said if this was a movie or some other type of DVD as i don’t care what your trying to clone as its not my business. However if it is a movie and i am assuming your in the U.S. i’d like to know the name of this movie as i’d like to see this. Another point about DVDFab don’t assume because 5.1.1.0 Final is better then a Beta copy etc because the author does work fast on his programming on his program so in real life his Beta can be better then his Final. Some ppl see Beta and shy away from it. I don’t because this Author is known to take 100% serious concern about his program and his customers and listens and reads about all input and error’s going on. My advice to you would be to trash 5.1.1.0 and at least try 5.1.1.8 Beta. Don’t like it then reload 5.1.1.0 back up. This author reads about all complaints and looks at error’s posted etc and goes to work rather fast. Actually he’s faster then any other programmer for this type of program in my opinion, And as you notice this program is a standalone meaning a ALL IN ONE unlike others. And last of all what does windows tell you the size of the DVD is when you look in windows at your DVD Burners drive letter because im curious about that. Good luck my friend this is not a mystery we just have to know details.

You can call me WALL E, P.S. this is a joke and if you read around you’d know why i put this at bottom of my messages. But you did call me Wally :slight_smile:

P.S. DVDFab 5.1.2.0 is out, Sorry i just seen it when i was done typing!.


#11

Wally:

Today the file size was definitely not the problem as it was under 7gb. And I selected the .INI as my source.

I just do not know what is going wrong. The burn appears to be completed and then it begins to finalize. It was finalizing slowly as I expected it to do for DL. Then when the finalization got to about 79%, it suddenly changed to 100% and I got a successfully completed message. But the DVD did not eject from my burner and it kept on flashing as if data was still being written to it. I waited several minutes and finally powered the burner off and then on to be able to eject the disc (unplayable).

Since I have plenty of HD space, I would have loved to be able to store cloned images of my DVDs and burn them at a later time. I guess for some reason this just is not possible.


#12

[quote=captainvideo;2165448]Wally:

Today the file size was definitely not the problem as it was under 7gb. And I selected the .INI as my source.

I just do not know what is going wrong. The burn appears to be completed and then it begins to finalize. It was finalizing slowly as I expected it to do for DL. Then when the finalization got to about 79%, it suddenly changed to 100% and I got a successfully completed message. But the DVD did not eject from my burner and it kept on flashing as if data was still being written to it. I waited several minutes and finally powered the burner off and then on to be able to eject the disc (unplayable).

Since I have plenty of HD space, I would have loved to be able to store cloned images of my DVDs and burn them at a later time. I guess for some reason this just is not possible.[/quote]

I have seen your problem b4 because i get it when a DL DVD i am copying is a small DL like lets say 6 GB. What happens is DVDFab will burn the DVD and the box will pop up telling you its finished BUT you will notice the disc was’nt ejected and the light on your burner is still going. If this happens DO NOT eject or try to eject the DVD. Leave it alone and when the light goes out on your burner then you can push the eject button on your burner to eject the disc and it will be ok. Because


#13

[quote=captainvideo;2165448]Wally:

Today the file size was definitely not the problem as it was under 7gb. And I selected the .INI as my source.

I just do not know what is going wrong. The burn appears to be completed and then it begins to finalize. It was finalizing slowly as I expected it to do for DL. Then when the finalization got to about 79%, it suddenly changed to 100% and I got a successfully completed message. But the DVD did not eject from my burner and it kept on flashing as if data was still being written to it. I waited several minutes and finally powered the burner off and then on to be able to eject the disc (unplayable).

Since I have plenty of HD space, I would have loved to be able to store cloned images of my DVDs and burn them at a later time. I guess for some reason this just is not possible.[/quote]

I have seen your problem b4 because i get it when a DL DVD i am copying is a small DL like lets say 6 GB. What happens is DVDFab will burn the DVD and the box will pop up telling you its finished BUT you will notice the disc was’nt ejected and the light on your burner is still going. If this happens DO NOT eject or try to eject the DVD. Leave it alone and when the light goes out on your burner then you can push the eject button on your burner to eject the disc and it will be ok. Because whats happening here is the finalization of the disc is’nt finished and if you goto eject b4 it’s done the disc will be junk. I must of asked 4x what your trying to copy LOL and never got a answer so i take it your trying to copy some porno DVD or something LOL :iagree:


#14

Wally:

I tried two different dual layer DVDs with Write Data and they are not porn. Unless you think McHale’s Navy is (lol).

Ok, it never dawned upon me to think that it was still actually finalizing when DVDFab said that the process completed. This never happened before and I still waited a few minutes but the blinking on my burner continued. So I was forced to power off my PC, unplug my LG and power it on to eject the DVD.

Anyway, since the Write Data function does not appear to work for me with DL, [B]I downloaded IMGBurn and that did work[/B]. I cloned a very full DL dvd (My Fair Lady) to an Image File just like before. Then I closed DVDFab, opened IMGBurn, selected the ISO, and inserted a blank Verbatim DVD+R DL. Not only did it burn and finalize completely but I had it then perform a verify disc which also went smoothly. What I like about IMGBurn was that I was able to preview the layer break and it was exactly where I expected it to be.


#15

[quote=captainvideo;2165709]Wally:

I tried two different dual layer DVDs with Write Data and they are not porn. Unless you think McHale’s Navy is (lol).

Ok, it never dawned upon me to think that it was still actually finalizing when DVDFab said that the process completed. This never happened before and I still waited a few minutes but the blinking on my burner continued. So I was forced to power off my PC, unplug my LG and power it on to eject the DVD.

Anyway, since the Write Data function does not appear to work for me with DL, [B]I downloaded IMGBurn and that did work[/B]. I cloned a very full DL dvd (My Fair Lady) to an Image File just like before. Then I closed DVDFab, opened IMGBurn, selected the ISO, and inserted a blank Verbatim DVD+R DL. Not only did it burn and finalize completely but I had it then perform a verify disc which also went smoothly. What I like about IMGBurn was that I was able to preview the layer break and it was exactly where I expected it to be.[/quote]

Yes Imgburn is a very good program. I use it myself. But i think if you waited longer the light on the LG burner would of went out in a few mins. Ok on McHale’s Navy i remember it well as im in my 50’s. I only have two LG drives and one of them is a firmware modified drive but the damn thing is so fast i rarely use it. I think it was a LG E60N and crossed flashed it to a H55N or something but the damn thing reads and burns like a rocket and i have a LG E60L stock also and now that im typing i have a 3rd a LG H10N or something with the firmware done with MCSE. Problem is i have too many drives i just like to collect them i guess but i have to start switching drives now and then but im tied up doing things and it never happens but im in the middle of building two other computers for my network so like im busy and just switched from the Plextor 716A to the Plextor 760A and i think i’ll switch to a Pioneer next as there my favorite. Have only one drive not hooked up the NEC 7200A i have two of them now and have yet to hook the 2nd one up but in no rush. Thing with LG is depends on which drive some hold the bit settings and some you have to do it each time the drive is shut off. BTW i don’t ever use the verify option. If the DVD is no good you’ll know it. Also if you have discs that fail i want to make you aware that Verbatim does’nt care. You can send the bad discs to Verbatim and they will replace them however they won’t do it for 1 or 2 at a time. Just save 50 bad discs and then call them and you pay to send the discs to them and they will ship you back 50 at there cost. I buy 500 discs at a time which are ten 50pk cake box MIS. I have like 20 N/G discs so it may take a few months or near a year before it reaches 50. But again im in U.S. and if your not then i have no idea how or what Verbatim would do. But then again you been watching McHale’s Navy so that almost answers where you are.


#16

captainvideo,

dvdfab only looks at more/less 4482 mb and will ask for DL disc if more than 4482. dvdfab does not look at the write media size for burning. this setting is only for compression. [why you would want to compress a DL dvd i dont know. :stuck_out_tongue: ]

in Clone mode you can select your writer as target, set imgburn as burning engine.


#17

[QUOTE=mjmagicjack;2165734]But i think if you waited longer the light on the LG burner would of went out in a few mins.[/QUOTE]

[B]This quirk (even if it occurs rarely) is something that the people at DVDFab should have made its Users aware of[/B]. I really felt something was wrong when it appeared to complete successfully but the DVD did not eject and the LG light kept on flashing.

So it is possible that my first burn using Write Data failed because I did not select the .INI as my source and the 2nd burn actually did not fail but I really thought it did.

Well anyway these mishaps resulted in my downloading IMGBurn which I had seen mentioned very positively here at these forums. And I was able to see that the burning process was running smoothly and the finalization showed a steady progression from 0% to 100%, not the jerkiness of DVDFab.


#18

[QUOTE=captainvideo;2165799][B]This quirk (even if it occurs rarely) is something that the people at DVDFab should have made its Users aware of[/B]. I really felt something was wrong when it appeared to complete successfully but the DVD did not eject and the LG light kept on flashing.

So it is possible that my first burn using Write Data failed because I did not select the .INI as my source and the 2nd burn actually did not fail but I really thought it did.

Well anyway these mishaps resulted in my downloading IMGBurn which I had seen mentioned very positively here at these forums. And I was able to see that the burning process was running smoothly and the finalization showed a steady progression from 0% to 100%, not the jerkiness of DVDFab.[/QUOTE]

please understand that dvdfab does not burn, VSO is the burn engine which dvdfab has contract with for burning.

VSO has problems currently [ many months ] finalizing in certain cases. please be patient. in the mean time please use ImgBurn the Ultimate Image Burner.


#19

[QUOTE=troy512;2165900]please understand that dvdfab does not burn, VSO is the burn engine which dvdfab has contract with for burning.

VSO has problems currently [ many months ] finalizing in certain cases. please be patient. in the mean time please use ImgBurn the Ultimate Image Burner.[/QUOTE]

I would have been patient if I was aware that finalization could still be going on [B]even though DVDFab indicated that it was completed[/B]. Since VSO is the default burn engine, it would have been nice if this occasional quirk was mentioned in the tutorial.

I plan on using ImgBurn from now on. Yesterday was my first exposure to it and I am very impressed with this free software.


#20

[quote=captainvideo;2165962]I would have been patient if I was aware that finalization could still be going on [B]even though DVDFab indicated that it was completed[/B]. Since VSO is the default burn engine, it would have been nice if this occasional quirk was mentioned in the tutorial.

I plan on using ImgBurn from now on. Yesterday was my first exposure to it and I am very impressed with this free software.[/quote]This is not a universal “quirk” and does not happen for all blank media/drives/systems/content/firmware versions; that is why it is not in the tutorial.