Bulkpaq Smiley 16x discs (UK)

HI guys, new to the forum please be gentle!
OK I buy dvdr media from www.svp.co.uk a very good company, I first bought datawrite red mach 4, Ive a pioneer a110d 16x writer and a phillips 16x one too, I burn alot. The datawrite discs would only burn at 4x on these writers despite the firmware upgrade so I chose bulkpaq smileys, out of 50 discs about 2 coasters, got more, less costeres, bought more and more, no probs, Ordered 600, svp sent daatwrite classic yellow 16x, some worked, some didnt, today I sent them back and had the original 600 smiley ones, however after testing around 50, 5 work.

I get the following error messages:

1 - power calibration error
2 - burn process failed at 16x (or 12x or 8x)
3 - cannot perform end of disc
4 - command sequence error

Ive opened my pc, tested cables, changed cables to no avail, am I to assume this is just incredibly bad luck to have a BIG duff batch, or something else?

Would be grateful for any advice. Cheers

LOL, damn, looks like you got the UN-lucky dip.

Bulkpaq = not to be trusted (I wouldn’t trust Datawrite, either).

Can you load up one of the problem discs in DVDIdentifier, and post the MID info for us?

Sounds like a problem with low-quality media, though. SVP sell other, better quality stuff, like Taiyo Yuden. :slight_smile:

Edit: LOL @ Greg :bigsmile:

Those Smiley discs usually are CMC or MCC.
If they’re MCC, you really have low-quality media - most high-grade MCCs are sold as Mitsubishi or Verbatim.
If they’re CMC, you first need to make sure your drive can do CMC discs well. If it usually does CMC discs well, then it’s low quality media.
I guess the quality is the problem.

will dvdidentifier say if they’re mcc or cmc?

Sure will. We should be able to tell the manufacturer when you post the info. :slight_smile:

Just stick to verbatim, ty or tdk media… the smileys are just bad media with pretty pictures on

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Media Code’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘Media Code’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 0Eh - Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In
0000 : 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 52 00 02 87 0d 13 87 88 90 00 .@…R…
0010 : 03 50 72 6f 64 69 73 00 04 63 46 30 32 00 00 00 .Prodis…cF02…
0020 : 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 09 0f 15 87 88 90 00 …
0030 : 07 a8 82 00 20 00 00 00 08 06 16 10 14 0f 0b 00 … …
0040 : 09 94 07 0d 0b 88 88 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 10 00 …
0050 : 0b 09 1e 17 a7 89 85 00 0c b7 89 02 00 20 02 00 … …
0060 : 0d 00 00 d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Control Data Zone’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘CDZ’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 10h - Physical Format Information Of Control Data Zone
0000 : 25 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 12 7f 00 00 00 00 %…&…

Yep, according to SVP, they could either be CMC MAG AM3 (which I’ve seen cause problems with some burners), or MCC 03RG20.

Edit: oooh, Prodisc F02. I have lots of those - they burn well in my LiteOn 1693S, but my LGs don’t like 'em.

… isnt there any more info… ah your using prodisk i see

Yeah, Prodisc is sometimes good, sometimes bad, in my experience. Obviously you got some of the “bad” ones :frowning:

Or maybe they just don’t play well with either of your burners.

You’d surely be better off with good media. The cheap ones are in most cases ripoff’s bc they are so bad in all aspects. You may be lucky sometime but mostly it’s the most expensive saved money you spent. Switch the discs to something good if you can. Don’t pay too much attention to the reviews at svp but go for the top expensive discs there. As someone mentioned Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim are generally more compatible with burners and other hardware so that would be a good place to start. They may cost 2x the cheap ones but they are pretty much hasslefree. Then buy smaller amounts of the crap media and see if something works ok if you really need to :slight_smile:

:iagree:

Another thing, if you have any of those Prodiscs left…try burning them at 12x, might just work. :slight_smile:

thanks for all your input guys

I did use cheap discs in the beginning, but I switched to the best because the quality was questionable - also, I like to know what discs I will receive, and with brands such as Datawrite, you just never entirely know what you’ll end up with.