Building new comp parts question?

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#1

I am going to be dumping some cash next month into a new comp to replace my emachines garbage.

My setup plan is using the 754 socket or should I just go for the 939 (3500+)?

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[li]MOBO: DFI Lan Party UT NF3 250GB
[/li][li]CPU: AMD Athalon 64 3400+ 1MB Cache (Claw Hammer)
[/li][li]Mem: OCZ EL Platinum Rev. 2 1GB (2x512MB)
[/li][li]HD: Hitachi 250GB SATA
[/li][li]Case: Cooler Master Centurian 5 w/350W PSU (will this PSU be ok or should I upgrade)
[/li][li]Video Card: Undecided (not a big gamer, but occasionally play any recommendations)
[/li][/ul]

Thanks. Please give me any advice as this is my 1st Comp build.


#2

Well 754 is a dying breed. Reason it does not support dual memmory channel. (39 has became cheap
An u can allways buy a 3200 on 939 and Over cloke it to 3800
Nf3 has a few problems with accepting different memmory chips, i would go for nf4 or via chipsets
Memmoy u chose is the best
video card -welll it is up toi the platform
if it is PCI x - i would go for X700
if it is Agp- ati 9800

Good luck


#3

Performance wise 754 or 939 doesn’t really matter. 939 has the advantage though of dispatching less head due to the new Winchester core and as for overclocking I wouldn’t guarantee the CPU Y overclocks to X Mhz. Unless you want to do extreme overclocks you might as well go with stock Corsair/Mushkin/Crucial/Kingston as wont notice any difference at stock speed. As for Video Card I guess a Radeon 9600XT or a Geforce 6600GT (which is slightly faster than a Radeon 9800 Pro) would be sufficient.
//Danne


#4

If you want best performance and value for money, get socket 939:

CPU: A64 3000/3200+ (Winchester Core, 90nm)
Motherboard: Asus A8V Deluxe Rev2 or MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum

Then OC it…you know you want to…it’s free performance… :wink: :bigsmile:

The memory and HDD you selected look good - i’d stick with them. As for the video card, a good choice would be an Nvidia 6600GT (AGP version). :slight_smile:

One point though, you might want a power supply with more grunt, especially if you want to overclock eventually. Supplies made by Antec or Enermax are always good - such as the Antec 430W TruePower. Remember that the components can only be as good as the quality of the power supplied to them…so it’s worth spending a little extra on a good supply.


#5

This is also what I was considering. I guess I will go this route. So, the PSU supplied with the case will be fine until I overclock it. Is there any program I can use to see if it is stable and able to be overclocked slightly? or not worth it. PSU’s are alot of money!

Thanks for all the help and info everyone.


#6

Just OC till you can do no more… :stuck_out_tongue: :wink:


#7

the s939 is the way to go, but if i was going to get a motherboard i would go with an nforce4 board such as this http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-152-049&depa=1
since you do not have a existing video card this will allow you to go with pci express card, since the agp versions are a dying breed. an ati x700 or 6600 series nvidia would be a sweet addition without breaking the bank


#8

But all your equipment is counting on it. :iagree:


#9

Just a tip, don’t go with the newest stuff you can find. It’s usually fairly untested so you have to consider yourself as a guinea pig and be prepared to get another mainboard. At least wait for some user input regarding compatibility and reliability. As for the PSUs don’t just stare at the wattage rating, 350W is plenty for a “regular” computer and if he needs more juice he’ll notice it and the PSU that’s included appears to be decent (http://img.hexus.net/v2/cases/coolermaster/cac-t05/images/psu.jpg). As for RAM, if he wants to overclock he should rather get memory with a high PCXXXX rating (above PC3200) rather than getting PC3200 with low latency.
//Danne


#10

Agreed that having some PC4000 or 4400 RAM would be ideal but costs a lot. Most of these higher rated RAM chips are high quality 3200 anyway, at looser timings. If you buy some high quality PC3200 from OCZ or Corsair and loosen the timings you can hit very high fsbs. :smiley:


#11

Not really compared to what he was going to buy :slight_smile:
OCZ EL Platinum Revision 2 Dual Channel Kit 184-Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - Retail - 270$
Kingmax Hardcore Series Dual Channel Kit 184-Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-4000, Model MPTD42D-2K - Retail - 191$
Geil Ultra Series Dual Channel 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-4000 - Retail - 212$
Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-4000 with Platinum-Silver Heat Spreader - Retail - 236$
Kingston HyperX Series Dual Kits 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-4000 - 263$
OCZ Gold Edition Rev2 Dual Channel Kit 184-Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-4000 - Retail - 274.50$
Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-4000PRO - Retail - 274$
OCZ Performance Series Dual Channel 184 Pin 1GB (512MBx2) DDR PC-4400 - Retail - 259$
Geil Ultra Series Dual Channel Kit 184-Pin 1GB (512MBx2) DDR PC-4400 w/ Copper Heat Spreader w/ Temp Thermometer, Model GL1G4400DC - Retail - 263$
CORSAIR XMS Dual Channel Kit 184-Pin 1GB(512MB x 2) DDR PC-4400 W/ Heat Spreader, Model TWINX1024-4400C25 - Retail - 269$
Picked from newegg.com
//Danne


#12

These were able to reach ddr616 on the DFI board. Click Here


#13

DiiZzY: Sorry I’m kinda computer noob when it comes to parts, but even though the specs say DDR 266/333/400 I can use higher rated ram? What about DDR2, instead of regular DDR?


#14

This is a review of the OCZ EL Platinum Revision 2 Dual Channel Kit 184-Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 with the MOBO I will get. I would say this ram is excellent and well worth the money. :iagree:

NEWEGG LINK

N/A,12/18/2004 2:58:20 PM
I am only 1 hour into trying to tap the potential of this memory and am already running DDR574 perfectly stable, with a feeling I will at least get DDR580 out of it with reasonable timing (2.5-4-10-4 … See complete review>
I am only 1 hour into trying to tap the potential of this memory and am already running DDR574 perfectly stable, with a feeling I will at least get DDR580 out of it with reasonable timing (2.5-4-10-4 @ 1T) on my K8N Neo2


#15

PC-4400 rated memory will do 275Mhz (550Mhz) guaranteed while PC-3200 only means that up to 200Mhz is guaranteed the rest is pure “luck”.
//Danne


#16

I’m jealous! :stuck_out_tongue: I’d love some memory like that, but my Crucial PC3200 will have to do me for now. :frowning: Why not set the timings at 3-4-4-10 and see how high it can go! Maybe you could hit DDR600 if you have the right board. :iagree:

And whilst PC4400 memory kits will work at DDR550, they do so with high timings, usually 3-4-4-8. This OCZ Rev2 can also do DDR550 or higher with lower timings in the majority of cases. :bow:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=11014&PageId=4