Brands and disc types that are fake Taiyo Yudens

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#742

[QUOTE=Womi;2155283]100% fake.
Could tell me the stamper/hub codes and maybe provide a scan/picture of those please? :flower:[/QUOTE]

It must have been them discs alrite, as I successfully burned a movie today with new discs. Happy days.:slight_smile:


#743

Hello !
I’ve recently buy blank disk CD-R taiyo yuden gold prism 48x [B]here[/B]

I have received them but how can i be sure that thoses disks are not fake?
->The reference on the case box is [B]>pp<[/B] and [B]B[/B]
->The reference on the top surface of the disk is [B]IE859D0236480[/B] and at the back [B]80 PG7631[/B]

photo here :

According to the faq i 'm think they’re real but i’m not sure…

Thanks in advance !


#744

Hi redgriffith,
they are real. :iagree:


#745

My two cents.

I’ve found TYG02 fakes in Argentina. Labeled [B]Mega Innovation[/B], DVD-R, 1x-8x. They state “Made in Taiwan with Philips license”.
Media code is TYG02 but no serial number nor any legal TY code in internal ring. Just an engraved “0000” and a “323” number.


#746

Can someone tell sellers on eBay, to sell real TY discs: CD-R and DVD + R 16x from shipments outside the U.S. (to Ukraine).
p.s. apart from going under the brand “That’s”


#747

does anyone know whether any infodic, taiwan products are currently being sold in the united states?


#748

[QUOTE=Odyssey-ua;2249714]Can someone tell sellers on eBay, to sell real TY discs: CD-R and DVD + R 16x from shipments outside the U.S. (to Ukraine).
p.s. apart from going under the brand “That’s”[/QUOTE]

Hi Odyssey,
nikoneko’s ebay store ships all media worldwide. He does not offer any DVD+R media though.
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/nikoneko-Ya__W0QQ_armrsZ1


#749

I bought a stack of 100 advertised as Taiyo Yuden from YesBuy.net (item no. 11R-0042(100).

Described as “TY CD-R Silver/blue” the disks all have this number on the plastic next to the hole: “JM872C0275680” – with the “56” in “75690” being variable. AND this number etched in the silver next to the hub: “80 PG3041” . The packaging was completely unmarked plastic sheeting, and the stack of 100 was clearly taken from a bulk amount that was much larger.

Is this really Taiyo Yuden?

Since I’m burning archival disks that need to last, I’m concerned that I made a mistake in purchasing these.

Any assistance would be apprecated!


#750

[QUOTE=aperey;2272774]I bought a stack of 100 advertised as Taiyo Yuden from YesBuy.net (item no. 11R-0042(100).

Described as “TY CD-R Silver/blue” the disks all have this number on the plastic next to the hole: “JM872C0275680” – with the “56” in “75690” being variable. AND this number etched in the silver next to the hub: “80 PG3041” . The packaging was completely unmarked plastic sheeting, and the stack of 100 was clearly taken from a bulk amount that was much larger.

Is this really Taiyo Yuden?

Since I’m burning archival disks that need to last, I’m concerned that I made a mistake in purchasing these.

Any assistance would be apprecated![/QUOTE]

Hi aperey,
welcome to the forum. :flower:
They are legit TY made media, according to the stamper code.


#751

WATCH OUT WHEN BUYING DISCS AT [B]NCIX[/B]

They sold me FUJI DVD-R PRINTABLE…COMPLETE garbage.
I went back they sold me
Tru Blu by Taiyo Yuden DVD-R 8X 4.7GB 100 Disc Pack White Inkjet Hub Printable

There the same disc!! complete garbage as well!


#752

Can someone tell me if these are legit and the real TYG02?

http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=020681&cid=SMD.880


#753

[QUOTE=indianagent;2427898]Can someone tell me if these are legit and the real TYG02?

http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=020681&cid=SMD.880[/QUOTE]

Yes they are legit. Welcome to the forums! :flower:


#754

Thank you very much! Can’t wait to get my hands on them.


#755

I bought and am using now what I hope are Taiyo Yudens with some lifetime. For archiving purpose.
This thread made me a bit anxious…

The lettering in the rim is different from all here mentioned :(. But then most posts are quite old.

The advertisement was:
DVD+R 4,7GB TAIYO YUDEN 16x WIT Inkj Print. FS 100 stuks
[2616TYPRWTFS100]

From: IWONATEC, http://www.iwonatec.de/product_info.php?products_id=1470

The rim: AA825A500396PH

ImageBurn info ATIP:

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: YUDEN000-T03-00
Book Type: DVD+R
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track

Full ATIP in attachment

Can my suspicious mind be put at ease, or …

Casey


091001-Taiyo-Yudens.txt (1.37 KB)


#756

[QUOTE=Casey44;2447987]
The rim: AA825A500396PH

Can my suspicious mind be put at ease, or …
[/QUOTE]

Is that the only number you see printed near the hub (look carefully on both sides)? If so, they are fake.


#757

[QUOTE=negritude;2448033]Is that the only number you see printed near the hub (look carefully on both sides)? If so, they are fake.[/QUOTE]

:o There’s more. Sorry.
“TH000903”

In the ‘dark’ part just along the ‘silver’ part. Former mentioned number was in the transparent part. This really hard to see, only certain angle refflecting under lamp … Still, should have found 1st time.


#758

That should be a genuine TY 16X DVD+R


#759

Thanx, sigh… (relief)
Am putting family movies on it from as far as 1944 back.
Can you advise a thread or link where I find how best to
… check / store / continue / frequency of renewal / …


#760

Hi
I want to introduce new fake taiyo Yeden DVD+R media, like millions of others. But this time a strange think is occure. Fake Taiyo Yuden disk name is already fake.

Lets begin to define problem. In my country (Turkey) to buying TYs is very very difficult. In my country noname or rebranded noname DVD medias are very common. Anyway aproximately for 4 years I used iomega DVD+R or DVD-R media. I know they are not perfect, but they have enough quality for my usage. But last time I bought two 25 packs of 16x DVD+R media because there is no 50 pack in shop.

When I was writing new media I noticed that max. writing speed is 8x. I burned before 12x and 16x without any problem. Afterthat I checked media with KProbe and DVDInfo for ensure the writing speeds. lets look the results.


                            Media Information                            
Region information                                    N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID                                    YUDEN000T02
Media Product Revision Number                                         00h
Format Capacity                                                Blank Disc
Free Blocks                                                     405405696
Free Capacity                                               4.38GB/4.70GB
Book Type                                                           DVD+R
Media Type                                                          DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed                                   8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  8.0x  11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  6.0x   8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  4.0x   5540KBps
Data area starting sector                                          30000h
Linear Density                                                0.267um/bit
Track Density                                                0.74um/track
Number of Layers                                                        1
                                                                         
                           Complete Media Code                           
00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 .......YUDEN000T
00000020 30 32 00 38 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 02.8#T7..Nr..c..
00000030 0B 0B 0A 0A 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................

Yes it says me this disk is YUDEN000T02 :D. Eventually I search for yuden serial number on disk, but there is no serial numbur on disk just DVD+R and T232 on disk. Yes it is fake :frowning: . But why iomega supply fake TYs ? :confused: I eventually checked old disk and I noticed there are also some physical differences on disk. Lets look results.


                            Media Information                            
Region information                                    N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID                                    CMC MAG M01
Media Product Revision Number                                         00h
Application id                                                           
Format Capacity                                            4.37GB(4.69GB)
Book Type                                                           DVD+R
Media Type                                                          DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed                                   16.0x 22160KBp
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV 16.0x  22160KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV 12.0x  16620KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  8.0x  11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  6.0x   8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  4.0x   5540KBps
Data area starting sector                                          30000h
Data area end sector                                              22F54Fh
Linear Density                                                0.267um/bit
Track Density                                                0.74um/track
Number of Layers                                                        1
                                                                         
                           Complete Media Code                           
00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 47 00 4D .......CMC MAG.M
00000020 30 31 00 38 23 54 37 18 00 3E 6E 00 70 62 15 15 01.8#T7..>n.pb..
00000030 0B 0B 08 08 01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 00 00 00 00 ................

As you seen it support 16x writing speed. And made by CMC. I know iomega medias are produced by CMC and Prodisc.
So that my fake TYs are already fake iomega. :eek:

Fake iomega looks like as below photo.

Original iomega looks like


#761

Hello lightt,
thanks for the info and pictures and welcome to the forum! :wink:

[QUOTE=lightt;2493534]
So that my fake TYs are already fake iomega. :eek:

Fake iomega looks like as below photo.

Original iomega looks like
[/QUOTE]
I don’t think that somebody would fake the “Iomega” branded media.
The owners of Iomega brand name just probably switched the OEM manufacturer of their media from CMC/Prodisc to some Chinese manufacturer (which media are obviously cheaper).