Blank DVD+R 16x TH000039 Taiyo Yuden are failing verification

Sorry I don’t have the possibility to test media as I don’t use Windows (Ubuntu).

I recently started burning a batch of blank DVD+R 16x TH000039 bought from a trusted seller. I always buy my Taiyo Yuden:s from there and there has never been a problem. I have never seen such stable discs in my whole life (almost no vibration at all). They don’t look fake at all.

Almost all are failing verification in Nerolinux. Some are making it through but it is rare. It doesn’t matter if I burn them in 4x or 20x. They are failing none the less. I have been troubleshooting a lot. I’ve “downgraded” from eSATA to firewire400 as my new drive has serious problems with eSATA but the top buffer is stable. I upgraded my both DVR215DBK to 1.22 from 1.18 but it did not make a difference. md5sum is failing as well with an input/output error. I thought it was a laser or kernel problem but it doesn’t seem so. Most information I’ve gathered is speaking against the discs but I cannot be 100% sure so I have to ask you for help before I contact the reseller.

I have another batch of these discs with another number TH000903 and they are not failing just like my Verbatim DVD+R DL 8x and Verbatim DVD+RW 4x.

edit:

I had a problem with a seller some years ago where a whole 10 piece cake of Verbatim DVD+RW 4x discs were failing much worse than these Taiyo Yuden:s. My other discs were not failing burn and verification but the seller said they were all fine even though I tested the Verbatim 4x DVD+RW discs in many different burners and computers but they were still failing. I was left without discs as the seller wanted to charge me for shipping them back so I lost the 10 piece cake :/.

I just don’t want to make that “mistake” again.

[QUOTE=RaZoR1394;2228231]Sorry I don’t have the possibility to test media as I don’t use Windows (Ubuntu).[/QUOTE]
You can still use QPxtool.

[QUOTE=RaZoR1394;2228231]
Almost all are failing verification in Nerolinux. Some are making it through [/QUOTE]
Do you have a chance to test them in another PC, ideally in Nero DiscSpeed or DVDInfo Pro (Transfer rate test)?
I would not trust to results of any verification function in any burning software at all (perhaps except IMGBurn).

I tried qpxtools and it doesn’t support my drive according to the webpage. Most tests are blanked out as well. DVDinfopro works in Wine and I’m using it now. It’s picking up a lot of errors at the later part of the disc. I use imgburn a lot in Wine and it works good.

Info from DVDinfopro:


                            Media Information                            
Region information                                    N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID                                    YUDEN000T03
Media Product Revision Number                                         00h
UDF Format Type                                                     V2.50
UDF Volume                                                theuniverses03e
UDF Application id                                                       
UDF Implementation id                                                Nero
UDF Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy)                  02/26/2009 20:11:00
Format Capacity                                            4.31GB(4.63GB)
Book Type                                                           DVD+R
Media Type                                                          DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed                                   16.0x 22160KBp
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV 20.0x  27700KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV 16.0x  22160KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV 12.0x  16620KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  8.0x  11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  6.0x   8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  4.0x   5540KBps
Data area starting sector                                          30000h
Data area end sector                                              2278DFh
Linear Density                                                0.267um/bit
Track Density                                                0.74um/track
Number of Layers                                                        1
                                                                         
                           Complete Media Code                           
00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 .......YUDEN000T
00000020 30 33 00 38 23 54 37 0B 02 5A 71 02 80 6F 0F 0F 03.8#T7..Zq..o..
00000030 0A 09 02 02 00 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 00 00 00 00 00 ................


                            System Information                           
                                                                         
Operating System Information                                             
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Operating System                                                         
Operating System Product ID                                              
Operating System CD Key                                                  
Operating System Version                        Version 6.0 (Build 6000) 
Computer Name                                                     leonis 
                                                                         
BIOS Information                                                         
----------------                                                         
                                                                         
CPU (Processor) Information                                              
---------------------------                                              
CPU Speed (Calculated)                                           2.59GHz 
CPU Type                        Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 185  
CPU (Processor)                           Family 15, Model 3, Stepping 2 
CPU Extended Family                                           0, Model 2 
Vendor Name                                                          AMD 
CPU Features    FPU, 3DNow!, Ex3DNow!, MMX, MMXExt, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, HTT 
Number of CPUs:                                                        2 
CPU 0 speed: (Registry)                                         ~2612MHz 
CPU 1 speed: (Registry)                                         ~2612MHz 
CPU L2 Cache Size                                                 1024KB 
                                                                         
Video Card Information                                                   
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Screen Resolution                                            1680 x 1050 
                                                                         
Network Information                                                      
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AdapterName                                                         eth1 
Description                                                         eth1 
MAC Address                                      *CENSOR*
IP Address                                                               
Gateway                                                                  
DHCP Enabled                                                       FALSE 
Have WINS                                                             NO 
                                                                         
AdapterName                                                         eth0 
Description                                                         eth0 
MAC Address                                      *CENSOR*
IP Address                                                               
Gateway                                                                  
DHCP Enabled                                                       FALSE 
Have WINS                                                             NO 
                                                                         
AdapterName                                                          ra0 
Description                                                          ra0 
MAC Address                                      *CENSOR*
IP Address                                                 192.168.1.100 
Gateway                                                      192.168.1.1 
DHCP Enabled                                                       FALSE 
Have WINS                                                             NO 
                                                                         
AdapterName                                                         pan0 
Description                                                         pan0 
MAC Address                                      *CENSOR*
IP Address                                                               
Gateway                                                                  
DHCP Enabled                                                       FALSE 
Have WINS                                                             NO 
                                                                         
                                                                         
Memory Information                                                       
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Memory in use                                                        35% 
Total physical memory                                             1.96GB 
Free available physical memory                                    1.28GB 
Max paging file possible                                          4.82GB 
Max Free available paging file                                    4.05GB 
Total virtual memory                                              2.00GB 
Free available virtual memory                                     2.00GB 
Free extended memory                                               0.00B 
                                                                         
Partitions Information                                                   
----------------------                                                   
Drive C: () (NTFS) free space                                    40.98GB 
Drive H: () (NTFS) free space                                    40.98GB 
Drive Z: () (NTFS) free space                                    40.98GB 
                                                                         
Optical Drives                                                           
--------------                                                           
Drive D:                          PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-215D Firmware 1.22 
                                                                         
Other Drives                                                             
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The TH000039 discs are failing with Nero in Windows 7 as well. The others are not.

What more can I do?

It looks pretty much as the discs are faulty?

whats the bonding like in the middle of the disks on the hub can you see bubbles ? :slight_smile:

Well, not really bubbles (at least not big ones) from what I can tell but they look dirty somehow in comparison to my other Taiyo Yudens.

I managed to verify one disc deep down in the batch.

Actually, the first disc I tried to use from the “bad” batch had some kind of gash on the dye between the two plastic parts.

Maybe you can see better with the picture?