Bin Laden is alive and online

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#1

From cnn.com "

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U.S. intelligence agents searching for al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden have followed the trail of the world's most wanted man into cyberspace, CNN has learned.

Counterterrorism experts are monitoring a number of Web sites and computer servers they believe might contain recent messages from bin Laden.

Al Qaeda is said to be computer savvy, and some investigators believe they have found markers or code words that indicate bin Laden is trying to signal supporters that he is alive.

"It's either bin Laden or an elaborate cyber- deception campaign" by his lieutenants, an intelligence official told CNN.

CNN reported earlier this year that al Qaeda has used at least one Web site to post information and keeps changing the site's address to stay ahead of investigators.

Authorities also are investigating information from detainees that suggests al Qaeda members -- and possibly even bin Laden -- are hiding messages inside photographic files on pornographic Web sites.

Bin Laden and al Qaeda are blamed for planning and executing the September 11 attacks against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

The attacks prompted the U.S.-led military campaign in Afghanistan, which toppled the ruling Taliban that had sheltered al Qaeda and bin Laden.

CNN has learned that a recently completed counterterrorism analysis concluded that no one knows whether bin Laden is still alive.

Captured al Qaeda fighters told U.S. interrogators that bin Laden was wounded in the left hand in the attack on his base at Tora Bora. In a videotape released in December, bin Laden never moved his left arm and his hand was never shown.

U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld confirmed that bin Laden has not been heard from since. Bin Laden has good reason not make further public appearances, he said.

"One might be he is not physically able, because he is injured in some way," Rumsfeld said. "Another might be because if he is afraid if he does it, he will get caught."

The intelligence report suggests that if bin Laden is still alive, he might be waiting to emerge when the next attack occurs.

Last week, the editor of al-Quds al-Arabi, a London-based Arabic-language magazine, said associates of bin Laden told him the al Qaeda leader was still alive and was recovering from a shrapnel wound to his shoulder. The editor, Abdel-Bari Atwan, said he was not given any other details.

"They never indicated where he is, " Atwan said.

Some intelligence officials believe bin Laden could be hiding in the border area between Afghanistan and Pakistan, a region encompassing several hundred square miles. If so, he likely is constantly on the move, they think.

In an audiotape broadcast on the Al Jazeera television network last month, al Qaeda spokesman Sulaiman Abu Ghaith said that bin Laden, his top lieutenant Ayman al-Zawahiri and "98 percent of the leadership of al Qaeda are safe" and planning new attacks against the United States. Taliban leader Mullah Omar was also alive, he said.

"I really want to assure the Muslims that Sheikh Osama bin Laden, with the mercy of Allah, is in a good health, and all rumors about Sheikh Osama's sickness or injuries in Tora Bora is completely inaccurate news," he said. Bin Laden would soon appear on television, Abu Ghaith said.

Alive or dead, bin Laden remains a powerful symbol.

"Those people who are going to rally behind him are going to rally behind him dead or alive," said Shibley Telhami, a Middle Eastern studies professor at the University of Maryland.

"You're going to have a core that, no matter what happens to him, are going to be his core supporters.

"He is terrifying to Middle Eastern elites. He is terrifying to Middle Eastern governments," Telhami said.

"He is terrifying to those who aspire to have a normal life because ... if it could be done to the United States, it could be done to them."


Terryfying what he did. Even more terryfying they still cannot find them (without using all Fox Mulder theories).


#2

hopefully they find him soon


#3

He will be found when he wants to be found. In short, never!


#4

he should be found. what he did is not justified.


#5

Originally posted by vishtaspa
he should be found. what he did is not justified.

But did he do it? Just read an interview with an American defence specialist and you could read between the lines that he suspected the CIA of commiting the attacks themself. I admit, it is a weird theory, but like most of the big events in world history, we will never know the truth. :frowning:


#6

Aah, its pretty clear that the Osama and men were involved in it. They have their roots in Pakistan as well. Hence this is very well justified. Its pretty evident from the kind of stuff the Pakistanis are doing and the hard time their President is having to controll them. :frowning:

See I don’t want to condemn any country, but its the naked truth. terrorism must end…ONCE AND FOR ALL. I hope you guys will agree to this.

The world saw it on Sept 11 and the world may see it again…STOP all this shit.

I wonder how people think about bloodshed and nuclear wars when there are so many better things to do like burning CD, listening to Musepack etc :wink:


#7

Originally posted by ExpertTech
Aah, its pretty clear that the Osama and men were involved in it. They have their roots in Pakistan as well. Hence this is very well justified. Its pretty evident from the kind of stuff the Pakistanis are doing and the hard time their President is having to controll them.

And India is the country that does nothing wrong? Dream on. But I agree, people shoud better burn some cd’s than eachother.


#8

i think terrorists suck:)


#9

Originally posted by slayerking
[there was some statement here]

on which i then replied :

i’d be careful with that statement

and after this edit , it makes no sense , so move along … nothing to see here :slight_smile:


#10

Originally posted by dansmug

But did he do it? Just read an interview with an American defence specialist and you could read between the lines that he suspected the CIA of commiting the attacks themself. I admit, it is a weird theory, but like most of the big events in world history, we will never know the truth. :frowning:

“Defense specialist” are you talking about that French guy who wrote the book saying that the US did it to themselves?


#11

Every time something bad happens, there is a conspiracy. It would almost be unhealthy if rumours like this would not appear. If you believe this stuff, you are seriously paranoid I would say…


#12

Ah, but paranoids have enemies too, Domi.:bigsmile: LOL


#13

Originally posted by FlyingDutchman
French guy

American defence specialist

:slight_smile:

I can’t find the article anymore, my parents have taken it with them on their holiday. I can assure you it was a real American.


#14

Originally posted by vishtaspa
he should be found. what he did is not justified.

True , but it would also not be justified to try him in a court that is not an international court, especially since BUSH keeps insisting that the threat of al quaeda is international (when it is obvious only USA or UK will be attacked because of their unjustifyablely unfair uni-lateral [or bi-] foreign policies)


#15

Originally posted by dansmug

I can’t find the article anymore, my parents have taken it with them on their holiday. I can assure you it was a real American.

Well, good thing the guy remained anonymous, or he would have a bit of trouble walking after a few weeks…:frowning:


#16

Bin Laden, he still not dead yet, ZzZzZzzzzz


#17

Originally posted by FlyingDutchman
Well, good thing the guy remained anonymous, or he would have a bit of trouble walking after a few weeks…:frowning:

First of all, he doesn’t wants to be anonymous, he is quite famous. Second, I did not say he wrote that, but you could interpretate it that way (kind of like Erasmus his Laus Stultitia). Third, if al of you always act like that when someone has a view that is not yours, maybe you shouldn’t be so surprised after all why some people don’t like you. But let us not get into that discussion again :wink:


#18

If the U.S. does manage to find bin laden after we blow what ever shelter he is hiding in and he is alive… well i can safely say he propably wont make it to any court alive. If the put him on an aircraft carrier, well theres well over 100 pissed off marines jamed into a confined space, and the sea can bring the worst out of a man…

Basically the only thing that would make it to any court would be a mason jar filled with squishy red goo labled Bin-Laden.


#19

I believe that people follow what the Media gives them. I agree there are many many things about which we will never know the truth. We have to look deep within ourselves to be able to say something worthwile about all thats going on cause every person will have a limited viewpoint.

this is really a confusing topic…:confused:

i totally agree, burning cds is 100% better than people. :bigsmile:


#20

Originally posted by dansmug

And India is the country that does nothing wrong?

Tell me what?

At least no burning people and stuff…gimme a break. The WORLD knows that.

Neways this is getting into a pointless discussion. So I guess we leave it as is and concentrate on the saner things in life :bigsmile:

Cheers!
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