Last week I was going to make a copy of "El Mariachi" to take to my shop. I have the original, but I was in a hurry, so I made a copy of the copy. Surprisingly, I could not rip it with my Pioneer 115L. I then tried my test PC, which has a Samsung SH-202N, and a BENQ 164B. No dice. My HTPC has a BENQ 1655. Still no joy. My shop PC has a Samsung SH-202J. No deal. So I went to my pile of players at my test area. My Plextor 716A's did not do it. Finally, my Plextor 760A did it. I tried them using XP Pro SP3, Vista Ultimate, and Win 7 Ultimate. Both 32 and 64 Bit in all instances. Needless to say. I will keep this disc for a tester forever. I will also keep the Plextor 760A. :doh:My question is, which current ATA burner does a good job of ripping? The disc play fine in all aforementioned players, but when I try to burn a copy, it stops and gives a read error message. I did clean all lasers too (just to be sure). Otherwise, they all work fine. Is there an SATA burner that works as good as ATA yet?