Best mp3 player besides IPOD

what are some of the best mp3 players similar to the apple ipod?

I think you should take a look at the players fromCreative, Iriver and Archos.

Sony will be releasing similar products in the very future btw…

Personnelly I like the Creative Zen Ultra. It looks nice and has all the features of the iPod. (I think)

Creative Labs Zen is probably the 2nd best player, and a better bang for the buck. Ipod is apparently going to release a 60 gb version in the fall, that should push the prices down if you can wait. Prices have been stable for a while.