ha...didn't need to...i charmed them with my www.bestbuy.com printouts (printed out in the circuit city store of all places).
besides, my avatar's for CDFreaks only.
@ripit....based on what Two Degrees has posted...all 16X rated Verbs are CMC made. slower speeds/different product lines (i.e. pastels, etc.) could be Mitsubishi (MIS), CMC or Prodisc (MIT), TY (MIJ) or MB (MII).