BenQ Rebadges

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#21

Was the Sony DRU-810A-R in a DRX-810UL identifiable by the model name in the firmware?


#22

[QUOTE=Ibex;2473249]Was the Sony DRU-810A-R in a DRX-810UL identifiable by the model name in the firmware?[/QUOTE]

No. Sony didn’t give any obvious evidence that the drives were different. One replaced the other and there was a combined official firmware updater that handled them both, so they hid everything. You can only know that one is different by the -R in the model number on the drive’s label.

Only way to tell the difference between the two is to pop in a Verb 2.4x DL disc. The 1640 can burn it at 4x, but the 1650 can only burn it at 2.4x.


#23

Look’s like I had a lucky escape when I crossflashed my DRX-810UL.:eek: From the information available at the time I thought it was sufficient check there wasn’t -R on the end of the drive name in CD-DVD Speed.:doh:

I propose that this thread should be tidied up and made a sticky (move the final list to the top & delete the old versions, maybe change title to ‘List of Benq [I]Nexperia [/I]Rebadges’)?:iagree:

The external drives listed under an internal Benq (Plextor PX-740UF, Sony DRX-810UL and any others) could be marked as external for clarity. Or maybe move them to the EW164B group? Is there a reason to treat the Philips external drives (Philips PBDV1601, PBDV1640P, Philips PBDV1648) differently to the external Plextor & Sony? (Were the Philips drives true EW162x/164B rebadges with a rebadged Benq enclosure?)

As it’s been confirmed as a Nexperia drive (albeit one without any aliases or firmware updates) I suggest the Philips DVD8881 should be included on the list just to have a complete historical record.


#24

Yes, you did get lucky. Oh, and in case I wasn’t completely clear, the “-R” only appears on the label of the internal drive, not on the label that is on the external case of the UL or UL/T.

Is there a reason to treat the Philips external drives (Philips PBDV1601, PBDV1640P, Philips PBDV1648) differently to the external Plextor & Sony? (Were the Philips drives true EW162x/164B rebadges with a rebadged Benq enclosure?)

Nope, no reason to treat them differently. Maybe I’ll take a stab at re-organizing the chart so that it’s clearer.

Philips drives aren’t really rebadges, since Philips is BenQ. BenQ used to be Acer but then Philips bought Acer, so then BenQ became Philips and Philips became BenQ. The chipset inside genuine BenQ drives is a Philips Nexperia chipset. See? Same company, same drives, just different branding for different markets. Philips brand was more known in Europe in the retail market, whereas Philips was more OEM in North America.

As it’s been confirmed as a Nexperia drive (albeit one without any aliases or firmware updates) I suggest the Philips DVD8881 should be included on the list just to have a complete historical record.

I agree. I wasn’t aware there were any doubts about listing that.


#25

[U]BenQ DW1620[/U]

MSI DR16-B
Enlight 1620
Shuttle CR40
HP 630c, 630i, 630vi (some)
I/O Magic 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Pacific Digital 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
BenQ DW1600 (can be upflashed to DW1620)
Philips DVD8601, DVD8631, DVDR1625, DVDR1640, DVDR1640P, PBDV1601 (ext), PBDV1640P (ext)

[U]BenQ DW1625[/U]

HP 640c, 640i, 640v
Philips DVD8651, DVDR1628, DVDR1628P, DVDR16LS, PBDV16LSP

[U]BenQ DW1640[/U]

Dell M9753 (Philips DVD8701)
Hi-Val 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
CompUSA 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Plextor PX-740A, Plextor PX-740UF (ext)
Norwood Micro 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Connect Computers 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Philips DVD8701, DVDR1648, DVDR1648P, PBDV1648 (ext), SPD2410SK
Sony DRU-810A (some) *, DRX-810UL (ext/some) *, DRX-810UL/T (mac/ext/some) *

[U]BenQ DW1650[/U]

Lite-On DW1650-488, DVD8801
Hi-Val 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
CompUSA 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Norwood Micro 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Connect Computers 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Philips DVD8801, DVDR1660, DVDR1660P1, PBDV1660P, SPD1400
Sony DRU-810A-R *, DRX-810UL * (ext/some), DRX-810UL/T * (mac/ext/some)

[U]BenQ DW1655[/U]

Sony DRU-815A
I/O Magic 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Philips DVD8851, DVDR1668, DVDR1668P1

[U]BenQ Other[/U]

Philips DVD8881 (sata) **

[U]Non-BenQ Other[/U]

CyberHome DX162D (nexperia) ***
Nu-Tech DDW-164 (nexperia) ***

[B][1]*[/B] Be EXTREMELY careful before crossflashing the Sony 810 series drives! Make sure you know if you have a DW1640 or DW165x before attempting to crossflash!

[B][2]**[/B] The DVD8881 can NOT be cross-flashed with any BenQ or Philips firmware! Do NOT attempt it unless you want to destroy the drive!

[B][3]***[/B] These are non-BenQ drives that use a Nexperia chipset. They can NOT be flashed with any BenQ or Philips firmware! Do NOT attempt it unless you want to destroy the drive!


#26

@negritude - Thanks for the additions and for cleaning up the list. :bow:
@Ibex - I agree with your notion to make this a sticky. :iagree:

There’s (at least) one more drive that should be on the list: the Dell YG768, some of which are the Philips DVD8801 (BenQ DW1650).


#27

Well…that explains why my DRU820 was a freak of technology LOL! That’s a compliment by the way :wink: It had the ability to read rather ugly looking discs, like my lite-on drives can. I still have it somewhere…


#28

[QUOTE=jadburner;2473573]There’s (at least) one more drive that should be on the list: the Dell YG768, some of which are the Philips DVD8801 (BenQ DW1650).[/QUOTE]

And the Dell P9225, at least some (all?) of which are the Philips DVD8701 (BenQ DW1640).


#29

I’m not so sure that we should really be including all these Dell part numbers on the list. They are NOT actual model numbers, but only part numbers or SKUs specific to Dell. In other words, you won’t find Dell or those numbers anywhere on the label of these drives. They are all Philips 8701s or 8801s, and that is what is on the label. Thoughts?


#30

Good point. You’re probably right. I only mentioned them for inclusion because some folks may miss them in an online search for Philips drives. For example, here. I’m ok with leaving them out since they are indeed Philips 8701s and 8801s.


#31

[QUOTE=jadburner;2473807]…I only mentioned them for inclusion because some folks may miss them in an online search for Philips drives…[/QUOTE]

That’s a good point. OK, we’ll leave them in. Let me revise the list.


#32

[QUOTE=omegaman7769;2473622]Well…that explains why my DRU820 was a freak of technology LOL! That’s a compliment by the way :wink: It had the ability to read rather ugly looking discs, like my lite-on drives can. I still have it somewhere…[/QUOTE]

Pardon? :confused:

The 820 was a Samsung drive, not a BenQ.


#33

[U]BenQ DW1620[/U]

MSI DR16-B
Enlight 1620
Shuttle CR40
HP 630c, 630i, 630vi (some)
BenQ DW1600 (upflash to DW1620)
I/O Magic 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Pacific Digital 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Philips DVD8601, DVD8631, DVDR1625, DVDR1640, DVDR1640P, PBDV1601 (ext), PBDV1640P (ext)

[U]BenQ DW1625[/U]

HP 640c, 640i, 640v
Philips DVD8651, DVDR1628, DVDR1628P, DVDR16LS, PBDV16LSP

[U]BenQ DW1640[/U]

Hi-Val 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
CompUSA 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Plextor PX-740A, Plextor PX-740UF (ext)
Norwood Micro 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Connect Computers 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Dell M9753 (Philips DVD8701), P9225 (Philips DVD8701)
Philips DVD8701, DVDR1648, DVDR1648P, PBDV1648 (ext), SPD2410SK
Sony DRU-810A (some) *, DRX-810UL (ext/some) *, DRX-810UL/T (mac/ext/some) *

[U]BenQ DW1650[/U]

Dell YG768 (Philips DVD8801)
Lite-On DW1650-488, DVD8801
Hi-Val 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
CompUSA 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Norwood Micro 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Connect Computers 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Philips DVD8801, DVDR1660, DVDR1660P1, PBDV1660P, SPD1400
Sony DRU-810A-R *, DRX-810UL * (ext/some), DRX-810UL/T * (mac/ext/some)

[U]BenQ DW1655[/U]

Sony DRU-815A
I/O Magic 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Philips DVD8851, DVDR1668, DVDR1668P1

[U]BenQ Other[/U]

Philips DVD8881 (sata) **

[U]Non-BenQ Other[/U]

Nu-Tech DDW-164 (nexperia) ***
CyberHome DX162D (nexperia) ***

[B][1]*[/B] Be EXTREMELY careful before crossflashing the Sony 810 series drives! Make sure you know if you have a DW1640 or DW165x before attempting to crossflash!

[B][2]**[/B] The DVD8881 can NOT be crossflashed with any BenQ or Philips firmware! Do NOT attempt it unless you want to destroy the drive!

[B][3]***[/B] These are non-BenQ drives that use a Nexperia chipset. They can NOT be flashed with any BenQ or Philips firmware! Do NOT attempt it unless you want to destroy the drive!


#34

[QUOTE=negritude;2473813]Pardon? :confused:

The 820 was a Samsung drive, not a BenQ.[/QUOTE]
The very first post on this thread, as well as the following website, confirm it being BenQ. Is this not right then?
Sony DRU-820A


#35

[QUOTE=omegaman7769;2473839]The very first post on this thread, as well as the following website, confirm it being BenQ. Is this not right then?
Sony DRU-820A[/QUOTE]

Oh, I see what you mean. The BenQ DW1670 is not considered to be a real BenQ drive. It uses a Panasonic chipset and has nothing in common with the classic BenQ drives based on Philips Nexperia chipsets.

The BenQ DW1670 can NOT perform any traditional BenQ scanning functions, and is generally not considered to be as good or as flexible of a burner. It may be that, as you found out, it’s good at reading damaged discs, but that’s another issue and not related to what this thread is about.

This thread is about creating a list specifically of the classic BenQ drives based on the Philips Nexperia chipset. Drives that are labeled as BenQ, but have MediaTek or Panasonic chipsets are not really valued, and are not included in this list.

Now, if others think we should include ALL the BenQ drives, even the ones that don’t perform the classic BenQ functions, then let me know and I’ll add them back in. I prefer to keep them out to avoid confusion, but others may disagree and think the list needs to be complete. Please give your opinion.


#36

I apologize about my mistake then. That makes sense, I hear you :wink: Boy, we just don’t know what were getting anymore do we? Recently I purchased an iHAS424 only to discover it was in fact an Optiarc 7241S. I was quite irritated. While I like optiarcs for good burners, I was in the market for an excellent reader. The lite-on drives have proven themselves on more than one occasion :slight_smile: I’m gonna do a substantial amount of research both before buying AND posting from now on LOL! Thanks :slight_smile:


#37

That list looks great, but the Benq EW1621/EW162I & EW164B seem to have got lost along the way.

Best to keep the list as just Nexperia drives, I think including other Benq drives would only increase the confusion. If the DW1670 is included it should be as a footnote only.

Maybe a couple of tweaks to make things clearer for anyone who doesn’t read the whole thread:

  1. Put a title at the top that this to indicate this is a list of Nexperia-based drives only.
  2. Indicate on the list that the Dell numbers are Dell’s part numbers, not drive model numbers, and only some will be. (But I think including them is a good idea)

And finally, sort the lines into alphabetical order by manufacturer. The models on each line appear to be in alphabetical order already, but there’s a second ‘Plextor’ that could be removed [Plextor PX-740A, [I]Plextor [/I]PX-740UF (ext)].

Thanks for your hard work [I]jadburner[/I] & [I]negritude[/I].:bow:


#38

[QUOTE=Ibex;2474046]That list looks great, but the Benq EW1621/EW162I & EW164B seem to have got lost along the way.

Best to keep the list as just Nexperia drives, I think including other Benq drives would only increase the confusion. If the DW1670 is included it should be as a footnote only.

Maybe a couple of tweaks to make things clearer for anyone who doesn’t read the whole thread:

  1. Put a title at the top that this to indicate this is a list of Nexperia-based drives only.
  2. Indicate on the list that the Dell numbers are Dell’s part numbers, not drive model numbers, and only some will be. (But I think including them is a good idea)

And finally, sort the lines into alphabetical order by manufacturer. The models on each line appear to be in alphabetical order already, but there’s a second ‘Plextor’ that could be removed [Plextor PX-740A, [I]Plextor [/I]PX-740UF (ext)].

Thanks for your hard work [I]jadburner[/I] & [I]negritude[/I].:bow:[/QUOTE]

[B]Benq EW1621/EW162I & EW164B seem to have got lost[/B] along the way.

They didn't get lost. The EW1621 and the EW164B are external drives of the DW1620 and the DW1640 respectively.

#39

[B]BenQ and Rebadged BenQ Drives Using a Philips Nexperia Chipset[/B]

[U]BenQ DW1620[/U]

MSI DR16-B
Enlight 1620
Shuttle CR40
HP 630c, 630i, 630vi (some)
I/O Magic 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Pacific Digital 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
BenQ DW1600 (upflash to DW1620), EW162I (ext)
Philips DVD8601, DVD8631, DVDR1625, DVDR1640, DVDR1640P, PBDV1601 (ext), PBDV1640P (ext)

[U]BenQ DW1625[/U]

HP 640c, 640i, 640v
Philips DVD8651, DVDR1628, DVDR1628P, DVDR16LS, PBDV16LSP

[U]BenQ DW1640[/U]

BenQ EW164B (ext)
Plextor PX-740A, PX-740UF (ext)
Hi-Val 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
CompUSA 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Norwood Micro 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Connect Computers 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Dell M9753 (Philips DVD8701), P9225 (Philips DVD8701)
Philips DVD8701, DVDR1648, DVDR1648P, PBDV1648 (ext), SPD2410SK
Sony DRU-810A (some) *, DRX-810UL (ext/some) *, DRX-810UL/T (mac/ext/some) *

[U]BenQ DW1650[/U]

Dell YG768 (Philips DVD8801)
Lite-On DW1650-488, DVD8801
Hi-Val 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
CompUSA 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Norwood Micro 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Connect Computers 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Philips DVD8801, DVDR1660, DVDR1660P1, PBDV1660P, SPD1400
Sony DRU-810A-R *, DRX-810UL * (ext/some), DRX-810UL/T * (mac/ext/some)

[U]BenQ DW1655[/U]

Sony DRU-815A
I/O Magic 16X DVD+/-R/W/DL (some)
Philips DVD8851, DVDR1668, DVDR1668P1

[U]BenQ Other[/U]

Philips DVD8881 (sata) **

[U]Non-BenQ Other[/U]

Nu-Tech DDW-164 (nexperia) ***
CyberHome DX162D (nexperia) ***

[U]BenQ Non-Nexperia
[/U]
BenQ DQ60 (teac) ****
BenQ DW1670 (panasonic) ****
BenQ DW1680, DW1800, DW1810, DW2000, DW200S, DW2010, DW2050, EW200G (ext) (mediatek/lite-on) ****

[B][1]*[/B] Be EXTREMELY careful before crossflashing the Sony 810 series drives! Make sure you know if you have a DW1640 or DW165x before attempting to crossflash!

[B][2]**[/B] The DVD8881 can NOT be crossflashed with any BenQ or Philips firmware! Do NOT attempt it unless you want to destroy the drive!

[B][3]***[/B] These are non-BenQ drives that use a Nexperia chipset. They can NOT be flashed with any BenQ or Philips firmware! Do NOT attempt it unless you want to destroy the drive![/QUOTE]

[B][4]****[/B] These drives do NOT use the classic Philips Nexperia chipset and can NOT perform or only emulate the classic BenQ functions! They are listed for completeness purposes only, so you know what to avoid! Do NOT buy them!


#41

[QUOTE=alan1476;2474054]They didn’t get lost. The EW1621 and the EW164B are external drives of the DW1620 and the DW1640 respectively.[/QUOTE]

No, what he meant was that they got lost from my revised list. I consolidated everything under the internal drive model numbers, instead of having separate entries for the externals. Makes things simpler that way. Anyway, I fixed it.

I also decided to make this a complete list, so the non-Nexperia BenQs have a section, with a clear warning about what they are.

And note, there is no such thing as the EW1621. That’s a typo that people kept propagating.