Before I hit it with a stick...411s won't write correctly

vbimport

#1

Ok, I have the 411s drive and have been having problems writing DVD’s. When I try to burn them with the software it came with, or with Nero Ultra 6 it ends up screwing up the discs and giving me an error message. The discs are not readable after that. It plays dvd’s fine, plays cd rom discs fine, burns cd-r’s perfectly…but when it comes to doing DVD’s it won’t do them correctly, especially if I burn something over a gig. In this case, I’m talking about data. I was going to burn a disc full of movie previews that I collected from Apple’s Movie Trailers site but that was taking days to convert for some reason (using Movie Factory 2).

Recently, (as in yesterday) I got a new hard drive, formated it, reinstalled everything, and am still having the same problems. Any ideas?


#2

I know, the first post is hard, but specify your stuff :). Read this http://club.cdfreaks.com/announcement.php?f=44 announcement posting on the very top of this forum and give us some details on your hardware/software/media config, also quote the error message you get. I am shure you get much closer to the solution of the problem this way :slight_smile:


#3

Ah ha!..reading instructions was always one of my weak points, of which I have many.

I posted this on my board lastnight. Just some basic specs on my computer:

2.00 gigahertz AMD Athlon XP
224 Megabytes Installed Memory (32 goes to the video)
140.03 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
65.78 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

DVD Burner

LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-411S [CD-ROM drive]

Seagate Hard Drives

ST360021A [Hard drive] (60.02 GB)
ST380013A [Hard drive] (80.03 GB)

Cards

ATI TV Wonder Pro A/V Capture
Creative Soundblaster 16

Running under XP Pro with SP2

And, as it would happen, I did actually save the last report I got from DVD Shrink:

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File ‘C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll’: Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 6/17/2003 3:25:04 PM
Nero API version: 6.0.0.9
Using interface version: 6.3.1.4
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero
Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom
Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-411S> Version: FS02 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.0.0.9
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST360021A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : ST380013A atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-411S atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 36700160 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 223MB (228848kB)
Free physical memory: 92MB (94816kB)
Memory in use : 58 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

15.9.2004
NeroAPI
3:10:40 AM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 235
DVD-Video files reallocation started

3:10:40 AM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 235
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

3:10:40 AM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 235
DVD-Video files sorted

3:10:40 AM #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

3:10:40 AM #5 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 127
Writer LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-411S running

3:10:40 AM #6 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3854
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

3:10:40 AM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3854
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

3:10:40 AM #8 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3173
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

3:10:41 AM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 228
Last possible write address on media: 2297887 (510:38.37)
Last address to be written: 2286159 (508:02.09)

3:10:41 AM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 233
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

3:10:41 AM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1722
Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-411S, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: PRINCO -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

3:10:41 AM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 768
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2286160 (2286160) = #2286160/508:2.10
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286160 blocks [LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-411S ]

3:10:41 AM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 937
Prepare recorder [LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-411S ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:

MCN: “”
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 307200 4682362880, ISRC “”
DAO layout:

_Start|___Track|Idx|RecDep|CtrlAdr
-150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
-150 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
2286160 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

3:10:42 AM #14 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 235
Caching of files started

3:10:42 AM #15 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 235
Caching of files completed

3:10:42 AM #16 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 235
Burn process started at 1x (1,380 KB/s)

3:10:42 AM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2130
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

3:10:42 AM #18 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1485
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

3:10:42 AM #19 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 18724
Set BUFE: SMART-BURN -> ON , Generic write control : ON

3:10:42 AM #20 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1600
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

3:10:42 AM #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7906
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Media Specific:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

3:11:02 AM #22 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 318
03:11:02.061 - LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-411S : Queue again later (Intervall : 47msec)

4:08:42 AM #23 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 113
<LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-411S > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2286160 (22E250h), lenght 0 blocks

4:08:43 AM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 227
all writers idle, stopping conversion

4:09:41 AM #25 SCSI -1176 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1205
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 1, LUN 0
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x72
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x72 0x02

4:09:41 AM #26 CDR -1176 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1620
Session fixation error

4:09:41 AM #27 TRANSFER -24 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1620
Could not perform end of Disc-at-once

4:09:47 AM #28 Phase 38 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 235
Burn process failed at 1x (1,380 KB/s)

Existing drivers:
File ‘Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS’: Ver=2.02.62a, size=20016 bytes, created 10/28/2003 6:02:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

Now, last night I was able to burn a dvd of one movie preview. I used Movie Factory 2 for it. All of my data burns and movie burns on DVD come out wrong though. In last nights case that resulted in the above report, it made it all the way through, and then died again like usual.


#4

You still have not posted much useful info. Posting a lot does not mean it contains anything useful.

Things thats needed…

4.Please do provide as much information as possible when posting about a problem. Providing the exact media code as well as a Nero InfoTool.

Maybe Mr.65536 needs to be more specific since too much info means people do not read it.

This should have provided the media id as well as where the drive was located, IE master/slave primary or secondary controller and which DMA modes they were on.

  1. Please do post only Liteon-specific topics in this forum.

DVD shrink log files saying what went wrong in shrink is not going to be off much help here in most cases.

Yea in fact I think Mr.65536 asks to do too much and not enough specific things that people can not get an idea on the priority of things. maybe split it into multiple messages to ask whats needed and say what can be done or not done. Its tough to write a small informative FAQ that everyone can understand and he did a good job off it but it is still confusing since he made everything he wanted to say into 1 small post.


#5

[if I burn something over a gig. ]

Your media is the problem, Get some RW, IE read-write media and see if they work. 2.4X and 4X… Other wise get some decent +R media and try burning them @ 4x. Or some -R media and burning them @ 2x. Dont use no name unheard of brands and expect them to work if you do not know what you are doing. Dont expect to burn those 8X media you buy for $10 for 50pack to burn even @ 4x. If you can post some names of media available to you, I am sure many people can immediately tell you what to use.


#6

@djsckizo

Recorder: Version: FS02 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.0.0.9

i.) Update your firmware. c0deguys have a nice firmware package for your drive. I prefer FS0H.

ii.) Update your Nero to latest version, 6.3.1.20 me thinks it is right now.

iii.) Download DVD Identifier and check your media MID.
Post the first (top) line here, like this;
Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:MCC-003-000].

:wink:

@Mr.Pikle, the logfile posted is from Nero…
BTW, c64k guidelines are very informative if you take your time to read them. Many 1st time posters dont.


#7

“411s won’t write correctly”

I will eat my hat if this fixes his problem.


#8

3:10:41 AM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1722
Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-411S, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: PRINCO -

Ah, we are getting closer. Princo media is quite bad, so the result will be bad.
Also it is -R and you are using the very early FS02 firmware which had a bug starting the write at the wrong position on -R disks. When I remember right it started 1.5 mm to late which caused an unburned ring at the inner part causing detection problems with many drives.

If he also uses better media after firmware and nero upgrade you can start buying hats :slight_smile:


#9

Dont worry, they haven’t fixed it for all the media. So my burkha is still safe. Just dont tell him which ones have been fixed.


#10

Owning the 411s is a hit or miss. For me, mine worked great for 4 months then the quality of burns started to detoriate. I couldn’t verify a burn in Nero or even copy the DVD back to HD using DVD decrypter.

I RMA’d my 411s last month and they gave me a new one and it still showed the same errors. I tried it on different systems as well and same problems.

I am getting the 2nd RMA back tomorrow and I have no idea what to expect.

Fortunately, I own an 851s and 832s so I will use the 411s for cd burning should the RMA not give me what I want.

good luck


#11

[derk] Owning the 411s is a hit or miss. For me, mine worked great for 4 months then the quality of burns started to detoriate. I couldn’t verify a burn in Nero or even copy the DVD back to HD using DVD decrypter.

Mine has started to give me problems as well. I am new this, however, I installed it and burned many discs successfully for 8 months. Then disc-read or disc errors, etc. I never changed media or anything (I use Fuji). It reads burned discs just fine, but has problems reading blanks (-R and -RW’s).

Do burners just go bad?


#12

I just got my RMA’d 411s last Friday. Originally, in August, I sent them my 411s and within a week, they sent back a refurbished 411s. It had the same problems as my original 411s. The one I just got now is a new 411s that was manufactured in August 2003. They did upgrade the firmware to FSOK and they ran tests on it.

So far I have managed to burn 5 DVD-Rs (Ritek g04) and not have problems verifying. I do expect within a year or so (after warranty expires Dec 2004) that it will start to have the same problems. My brother got his 411s in November (Black Friday sale at bestbuy) He said his has started to show verification problems.

I think with the 411s over time, the laser wears out. My first DVD burner was a Pioneer 104 and it’s almost 2 years old and I sold it to my friend and he loves it…


#13

I had the same problem (using Nforce board without SW ide drivers) until I upgraded to an NEC pci USB 2.0 card, and the HSOQ firmware which makes it an 811s…no problems now. I twas mentioned on these forums that this driver actually is more stable and has its performance improved with the firmware hack.

search the forums…the details are here.

Jon