Now this is a quaint thread. It seems I made this decision in 2002 or so… Here is what I came out ot the store with:
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP, 2000 MHz (15 x 133) 2400+
CPU Alias Thoroughbred-B
CPU Stepping B0
Instruction Set x86, MMX, 3DNow!, SSE
L1 Code Cache 64 KB
L1 Data Cache 64 KB
L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, Full-Speed)
CPU Physical Info
Package Type 453 Pin PGA
Package Size 4.95 cm x 4.95 cm
Transistors 37.6 million
Process Technology 6Mi, 0.13 um, CMOS, Cu
Die Size 84 mm2
Core Voltage 1.50 - 1.65 V
I/O Voltage 1.6 V
Typical Power 44.0 - 64.0 W (depending on clock speed)
Maximum Power 48.5 - 74.3 W (depending on clock speed)
Company Name Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Product Information http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118,00.html
CPU #1 3 %
Of course this is the thoroughbred. I am using this motherboard:
Motherboard ID 62-1021-009999-00101111-040201-VIA_K7$1AARK204_A6712VMS V1.C 102104
Motherboard Name MSI KT4V (MS-6712)
Front Side Bus Properties
Bus Type DEC Alpha EV6
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 133 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 267 MHz
Bandwidth 2133 MB/s
Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type DDR SDRAM
Bus Width 64-bit
DRAM:FSB Ratio 5:4
Real Clock 167 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 333 MHz
Bandwidth 2667 MB/s
Chipset Bus Properties
Bus Type VIA V-Link
Bus Width 8-bit
Real Clock 67 MHz (ODR)
Effective Clock 533 MHz
Bandwidth 533 MB/s
Motherboard Physical Info
CPU Sockets/Slots 1
Expansion Slots 6 PCI, 1 AGP
RAM Slots 3 DIMM
Integrated Devices Audio
Form Factor ATX
Motherboard Size 210 mm x 300 mm
Motherboard Chipset KT400
Extra Features Fuzzy Logic 4
Company Name Micro-Star International
Product Information http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_list.php
BIOS Download http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_list.php
And I would imagine, with the proper firmware revision, I think I can clock that RAM up to 200 MHz.
You asked, between the two CPU’s which one gives the better preformance: Well Hindsight is 20/20/. I have had this machine for several years and it has worked swell.
This chip is what really sold me on AMD, when I got the board and the CPU, and I set my hard drive into it and did an in-place install, it was like “buttah”. No, I mean it was like lightning.
I’m using XP Pro, Service pack 1 only. This system is at the lower limit of all the fast systems that they started making around that time.
My complaint with AMD is that, the next CPU I bought was a 2500+ XP - You would think that with AMD’s naming conventions, that a 2500 XP would run at about 2.2 GHz. It did not, it ran at only 1.9 Gig.
Which brings us to the topic: How well does this MoBo overclock? How well does the Thouroughbred CPU O/C? Well, as fast as the chips are, they do not overclock very well: Not on THIS motherboard anyway. This Motherboard came with a “Fuzzy Logic” program that was supposed to determine overclocking ability for MB and CPU. When I ran it, it oc’d me allright, it OCed me to the point when I was locked up. The program was suppsoed to prevent that, but it is just software, made by MSI, and these utilities rarely do what they are supposed to do, especiallty if they are extras that came in the box, on the driver installation disk.
When I did this latest re-install, I tried OCing the bus speed, it defaults to 100, but the RAM is sposed to run at 133, but it is Kingston Ram.
I was not able to clock up the base RAM speed to 166, but I do get a Memory speed of 333 MHz.
Anyway, I bought this Board/CPU set in 2002 and it is still kicking ass. I am looking for any F/W updates that may be floating around… Also, I have a slight lock-up problem. But this is one FAST PC.
If it is not my Ram just getting old, what else causes lock ups? It was not locking up before I re-installed XP Pro.
Of these 2 cpu’s, which one will give me the better overall performance? What are the pro’s and con’s for each cpu? Can I overclock the fsb speed a little more on 1 cpu vs. the other cpu?
Here is a direct link to my mobo and all reply posts deeply appreciated
MSI KT4V MS-6712:http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=362&MODEL=MS-6712
I’ll check out THAT link too… Thanx for posting this… 4 years ago? Hehe!