Asus BW-12D1S-U - crossflashing

[BLERandJitter]

Is it in generally possible to crossflash Pioneer and Asus burner?
And if so - how can I find out which Pioneer was rebadged by Asus?

[Albert]

It’s possible Asus used the BDR-206 series for this external drive, but I have no idea of how you could verify this without the drive.

I… don’t know of anyone who has crossflashed a Pioneer BDRE drive, to be honest. That’s not saying it cannot be done, but it is done infrequently around here.

[2601]

[QUOTE=BLERandJitter;2670091]Is it in generally possible to crossflash Pioneer and Asus burner?
[/QUOTE]

Yes, if kernel file is available.

And if so - how can I find out which Pioneer was rebadged by Asus?

Find out the DVR generation by executing command : DVRFlash -v X:
Both DVR generation of Asus BW-12D1S-U and BDR-206 are 1030.

[deanwitty]

Here is the info reported by the drive from another forum:

intf=SAT gen=1030 krnl=ID71 main=ID71 ver=0002

Do you know if that kernel is available, 2601?

[2601]

[QUOTE=deanwitty;2670108]Do you know if that kernel is available, 2601?[/QUOTE]

No, I can’t find it.

[BLERandJitter]

[QUOTE=deanwitty;2670108]Here is the info reported by the drive from another forum:

intf=SAT gen=1030 krnl=ID71 main=ID71 ver=0002

Do you know if that kernel is available, 2601?[/QUOTE]

I get

intf=SAT
DVR generation=8000
kernel Type=ID71
normal Type=ID71
Kernel version=0000

[2601]

[QUOTE=BLERandJitter;2670234]I get

intf=SAT
DVR generation=8000
kernel Type=ID71
normal Type=ID71
Kernel version=0000[/QUOTE]

DVR generation=8000 is Pioneer BDR-207

[BLERandJitter]

So there seem to be BW-12D1S-U out there which are based on the 206 and on the 207?! At least I know now more. Thx.

[avallac_h]

I encountered the same problem.

Here’s DVRFlash output:

Drive Information:
   Description : ASUS    BW-12D1S-U      
  Firmware Rev : E102
 Firmware Date : 11/05/06
  Manufacturer : PIONEER  
Drive is in normal mode.

Additional Drive Information:
 Serial Number : KLDL100xxxWL    
Interface type : SAT 
DVR generation : 1030
   Kernel type : ID71    
   Normal type : ID71    
Kernel version : 0002

        Status : RPC-2 (region locked)
        Region : none
       Changes : 5 region changes remaining
                 4 vendor resets remaining
                 state is 'Region not set'

ERROR - The ASUS    BW-12D1S-U       is not supported by this utility - Aborting

This drive is PIONEER BDR-206 (BK). Proofs:

http://image.bayimg.com/3213057ded238014dede1caf255cf4a04b3651c8.jpg

[BLERandJitter]

So the data of my drive is totally different (see also structure of firmware version)

Drive Information:
   Description : ASUS    BW-12D1S-U
  Firmware Rev : 1.20
 Firmware Date : 12/01/05
  Manufacturer :
Drive is in normal mode.

Additional Drive Information:
 Serial Number : LDDL00xxxxWL
Interface type : SAT
DVR generation : 8000
   Kernel type : ID71
   Normal type : ID71
Kernel version : 0000

        Status : RPC-2 (region locked)
        Region : 2
       Changes : 4 region changes remaining
                 4 vendor resets remaining
                 state is 'Region set'

The ASUS    BW-12D1S-U       is not supported by this utility - Aborting

Interesting is also that Manufacturer is not shown. But perhaps DVRflash is only too old.

My drive was manufactured in June 2012. Would be interesting to know whether newer drives will be shipped with newer firmware or not.

[cvs]

For the BDR-206 family, there are 4 kernels available that I know of:

BDR-206 Kernel GENERAL
BDR-206 Kernel OEM_EXT (Primera OEM, Firmware 9.0x)

BDR-206D Kernel ID75 (Primera OEM, Firmware 9.0x)
BDR-206D Kernel ID75 (Primera OEM, Firmware 9.5x)

Obviously the first one would be the best one to use for crossflashing…

There are no kernels available for the BDR-207 family as far as I know. If anyone knows otherwise I would be more than happy to be proven wrong

[avallac_h]

[QUOTE=cvs;2670570]Obviously the first one would be the best one to use for crossflashing…
[/QUOTE]

[B]CVS[/B], can I ask you to explain your message? As far as I know there’s no official Pioneer firmware which is compatible with ID71-kernel (at least on this page).

drive       fw.ver               dest.      kern.  kern.ver2
-------------------------------------------------------------
BDR-206 DBK FW106EU 2011/06/28 - SAT 1030 - ID61 - 0002
BDR-206 MBK FW104EU 2011/06/28 - SAT 1034 - ID58 - 0001
BDR-S05     FW112EU 2011/08/02 - SAT 1014 - ID43 - 0000
BDR-S06     FW106EU 2011/06/28 - SAT 1030 - ID43 - 0001
BDR-S07 XLT FW121EU 2012/05/21 - SAT 8000 - ID82 - 0000

Also DVRFlash currently doesn’t support 206/207 drives.

So, at the moment I don’t see any chance to upgrade those ASUS drives. Am I wrong?

[cvs]

[QUOTE=avallac_h;2671291][B]CVS[/B], can I ask you to explain your message? As far as I know there’s no official Pioneer firmware which is compatible with ID71-kernel (at least on this page).
[/QUOTE]

Sure. We have established already that your drive is a BDR-206. Therefore any BDR-206 firmware would be perfectly compatible with your drive. When I say “any BDR-206 firmware”, that should be read as BDR-206 and/or BDR-206D, since both of these models share the same hardware. BDR-206D are basically BDR-206 drives with some features disabled in firmware but sharing the same hardware as the main BDR-206 model. BDR-206M drives use a completely different chipset, so their firmwares are not suitable for BDR-206/BDR-206D drives.

Regarding crossflashing, in order to crossflash a Pioneer drive what you need is a kernel firmware - any kernel firmware compatible with your model will do (i.e. a kernel firmware of any other model which shares exactly the same hardware as your drive). So basically the kernel you need is not the kernel of the source model (ID71 in your case) but the kernel of the destination model you want to crossflash to (such as the BDR-206 GENERAL kernel firmware I mentioned before).

True, the ID71 kernel is not available, but what that really means is that you won’t be able to crossflash back to the ASUS model once you’ve crossflashed your drive to another model, and nothing more than that.

In conclusion, based on what I said above, the best choice for a crossflash in your case would be the BDR-206 GENERAL kernel firmware (http://www.firmwarehq.com/Pioneer/BDR-206/files.html, which happens to be one of the most common BDR-206 models). That would give you a fully featured drive, and once crossflashed you would be able to update your drive with any new firmware updates PIONEER might release in the future.

[QUOTE=avallac_h;2671291]Also DVRFlash currently doesn’t support 206/207 drives.[/QUOTE]

DVRFlash 2.7.7 doesn’t support BDR-206 drives, and that is the one and only missing ingredient to allow you to crossflash your drive to a BDR-206 … might be worth putting a request to add BDR-206 support in the DVRFlash thread: http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=43845. You never know …

[avallac_h]

Thank you for detailed explanation.
I hope that Agent Smith has not discontinued the development of DVRFlash. Already two years have passed since last version has been released.

[2601]

The owners of Asus BW-12D1S-U (Pioneer BDR-206 clne) need for more consideration.
…Pioneer will have no firmware update for the old model Drives.
…You have nothing earned as Asus’s firmware E102 has the same write strategies as Pioneer’s firmware v1.06.
…You will void your warranty if you have no ability to flash back to Asus.

[crowbgd]

Hello
pls can help on this ?

Win2K RC2 & D3D

[crowbgd]

Help with this? How to flash. Problem is ,cant burn DVD or CD