Oh please, Roj. You’re the kind of effin moron that won’t buy Apple just because of the name. Gee, it’d be a tragedy if you let down your hard stance, wouldn’t it? “No UMS: How many times do you happen upon a computer that’s not yours” “Daily.” “Home to office.” “next…” Yamipod, as stated originally. Plug in the iPod via USB, navigate to drive and fire up Yami. So simple a simpleton like you could double-click, right? Home to office…both computers you park your big butt in front of, perhaps? Your computers to use, not wandering the halls aimlessly and plugging into every computer you see. Next… “Besides, only a moron (or an iPod owner) installs restrictive proprietary software when it isn’t necessary.” Only an uneducated and uninformed moron would install restrictive, proprietary software without seeking free and/or cheap alternatives and bitch about it. “iTMS rip-off: Don’t like to buys songs online? Then don’t.” “Don’t want value for your money and want to pay far too much for lossy content? Buy iTunes garbage.” And if someone wants one song from an album that’s littered with crap? .99 is a fair price me thinks. “Next…” “iTunes = crap: There’s plenty more alternative software packages to transfer your songs. Heck, Yamipod is free, doesn’t require an intaller (copy it to your iPod in disk mode) and supports all the transfer you could want.” “You of course (you’re not an iPod owner are you?) missed the point. Let’s assume for a minute that I was braindead enough to actually BUY something form iTunes. Now I can’t do with it as I see fit. I can’t copy it to my PC. And if I convert it from LOSSY and then encode it as something else, I’ve lost even more audio quality. And I would do this WHY exactly? Of course, it could be argued that since I have an iPod, that isn’t going to matter anyway, given that the audio quality of the thing can’t match up to the competition because the amps are so damned crappy…” No, I didn’t miss the point. It seems you’ve missed the entire effin Titanic DRM ship, Roj. How many of the DRM’d formats can YOU losslesly burn to CD and rip back? None. How about any lossy format for that matter? None. See, Roj, if you’re thinking that just because Apple has their DRM’d AAC and you can’t convert it losslessly to something else, you’re plain and simple retarted. I defy you to take a DRM’d or non-DRM’d lossy format and convert it, losslessly, to any other format. Go right on ahead Poindexter. “I’d love to have Ogg support” “You can - just don’t buy Apple s**t.” The thing is, it would be “nice”, not imperative, not a requirement. You missed that though. Seems you also missed the point of the information below, RE: 128kbps test. “Next…” “as a recent 128kbps test bore out Apple AAC and Ogg are so close it’s a non-issue.” “…to those who use crap, er, low bitrates. I like to hear at least SOME of the music so I encode at 192 or better yet LAME 3.97b2 at V2.” Ah, the flag waving of a so called “Audiophile”. Yeah, I’ve seen your kind and you’d get torn to shreads spewing that kind of garbage where the test took place. Before making uninformed, read: validated tests, you may want to “Also, I like my investments to last a while so I tend to buy things that are properly / intelligently designed and constructed and aren’t just overpriced conversation pieces prone to glitches, scratches and breakage. I don’t have time for class-action lawsuits - so I just buy intelligently to begin with. My MuVo has been drenched in sweat on many a beach - after my friend’s iPod failed under the same conditions, he bought a MuVo too. Misinformation indeed… But hey, I’m not trying to justify my purchase.” I’m not trying to justify a purchase. I could really care less if you or anyone else approves or not. What I can’t understand is the people that bash Apple just because they’re succesful with a darned good product. I have a 3rd Gen 30GB that still holds 6hrs charge and that’s with either 192k AAC or LAME (3.90.3) --aps. It was purchased the week of it’s launch. The iPod plays music and does it very well…end of story. Don’t hate the company for being succesful. Don’t hate the product for being widely purchased. Dislike the multitudes of goobers that buy it and show it off.