Apocalypto does not display subtitles regardless of what I select

[buzzin1999]

Backing up Apocalypto to mp4 format. I have tried selecting the captions "English Normal" and "Normal" and not selecting any captions. The result is always the same... no subtitles whatsoever in the output file, even though it says on the next screen "direct render to video". Can someone else who has this movie confirm the issue? I am using the latest version .50. :a

[buzzin1999]

signals i found your post:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f116/guide-making-forced-subtitles-apocalypto-others-220900/

i’ll give that a shot. kind of annoying to have to do all this just to read the foreign language spoken in the movie.

[buzzin1999]

also it looks like your post applies to when you want to burn a dvd copy, not when you want to rip to mp4. trying it anyway.

[troy512]

have you tried:

“display only forced subtitles” from the first dvd to mobile screen

realistically i have no idea as i do not use dvd to mobile.

[buzzin1999]

yes i have tried selecting display only forced subtitles by itself, in conjunction with English Normal Captions, and in conjunction with English Captions. I have tried them all by themselves as well. i am playing back on a PC with multiple different players, all do not show the subtitles.

i believe this USED to work, it seems every time they release an update to dvdfab they break something that used to work.

[buzzin1999]

ok i tried the IFO editing method signals suggested but instead of burning to DVD when I was done I ripped to mp4. same issue, the subtitles do not display.

i give up.

[signals]

[quote=buzzin1999;2090028]ok i tried the IFO editing method signals suggested but instead of burning to DVD when I was done I ripped to mp4. same issue, the subtitles do not display.

i give up.[/quote]If you use Main movie or Customize/No Menus, you have to turn these on with the “Default Arrow” for a DVD to DVD copy. They should work fine for DVD to Mobile if you select the English but do [B]not[/B] check the display forced only box. I don’t think these had forced start in the VOBs. I rememeber having trouble with this too, but I think the “defaulting” fixed it. You could also use DVDSubEdit if you have the rip in a folder already to give them a forced start inside the VOB. I am on a business trip but will get my original and backup when I get home and see if I can retrace what I finally did to make it work.

[Wombler]

[QUOTE=troy512;2090018]have you tried:

“display only forced subtitles” from the first dvd to mobile screen

realistically i have no idea as i do not use dvd to mobile.[/QUOTE]

If I recall correctly there was something wierd about the way the subtitles operated on this disc and various programs had to be updated at the time.

I don’t have this disc though so I can’t confirm.

[B]Wombler[/B]

[DONVAN]

I do remember burning a couple of discs with no subtitles and then fixing it to work. Haven’t tried it to mobil.

[buzzin1999]

generic mp4 / aac does not display subtitles regardless of what options i selected. i have tried about 10 different ways.

i’ll try generic avi and see if thats different, but i doubt it.

[signals]

Here is what I have found. The subpics in Apocalypto are NOT forced in the VOBs. They are apparently default displayed by the menu system. They only seem to work correctly if you play the DVD by clicking PLAY on the main menu so that the default subtitle setting (English on R1) is read and communicated to the player. The DVDFab “default arrow” for some reason does not work as it should to make these subs display on copies without menus. However, the MP4 I made from the original disc works perfectly if you do NOT check the “display only forced…” checkbox. The stream you want to select on the R1 disc is the second English one from the top. If you have already ripped this to a HDD folder and want to fix it, or want it without menus but still have the subtitles appear by default, you can use DVDSubEdit to easily convert the subpic stream to true forced start in just a few minutes of processing.

DVDSubEdit homepage: http://download.videohelp.com/DVDSubEdit/ Thank you jeanl.

[buzzin1999]

Thats strange, the mp4 generic aac I rip selecting the 2nd English subtitle stream and not checking display only forced does not result in subtitles on the mp4 output file.

I’ll try one more time with those settings and if that doesn’t work I’ll look at DVDSubEdit.

[signals]

I used the Archos H264+MP3 profile. Did it say “Direct Render to Video” on the lower right of the Conversion Settings screen?

//EDIT// I’m not sure if this profile still comes with DVDFab, so here it is if you’d like to try it. Change the .txt to .xml and put it in your profiles folder. It installs as a “new device” using Customize UI->DVD to Mobile->New. Then move it from the left window to the right window using the >> buttons. Restart DVDFab and it should appear at the bottom of the DVD to Mobile list.

The forum won’t let me upload it again. Here is a link to the post where I uploaded it: http://club.cdfreaks.com/2086465-post3.html

[buzzin1999]

I have been able to get the subtitles successfully now on a .avi format. I am still trying for .mp4.

I made a custom profile for my Zune 80gb that exhibits the same problem. I’m posting it below in case someone can spot why using this profile results in no subtitles:

<profile name=“Zune 80GB” version=“200” device=“zune” tag=“dvdfab” description=“Zune 80GB”>
<common>
<file format=“mp4” />
<audio codec=“aac” channel=“2” >
<freq value=“48000” list=“48000”/>
<bitrate value=“256000” list=“64000,96000,128000,16000,192000,256000”/>
<volume percent=“150” />
</audio>
<video>
<size list=“320x180,320x240,480x270,480x360,640x360,640x480,720x480” out_size=“720x480” />
<outfps mode=“3” value=“0” list=""/>
<encode codec=“h264” bitrate_kbps=“2400” maxbitrate_kbps=“2500” >
<mode value=“real_time” list=“real_time, high_quality” />
</encode>
</video>
</common>
<acodec name=“faac”/>
<vcodec name=“h264”/>
</profile>

[buzzin1999]

By modifying the resolution to 720x400, the subtitles DO display properly on the mp4 rip.

I don’t know what about making it 720x480 screws it up, but it definitely does.