Any 8x DVD -R Media outhere

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#1

I have a LiteOn 812s.
Question?
Has anybody seen any 8x -R media in reatail stores. I know you can buy Ritek/Ridata 8x -R from Newegg.

Is there any 4x -R that can be written to 8x with a patch?

Thanks
Dan
Colorado USA


#2

Some people have reported success with Ritek G04 discs writing fine at 8x. Some have reported that they were not successful. Ritek media is rather variable in quality…

But you have a LiteOn DVD burner… which means that you’ll probably be better off sticking with +R. LiteOn drives have a bias in favor of +R.

+R is a superior format, better suited for higher speeds, and it is also easier for drives in general to write +R with good quality.


#3

Yes. That’s e.g. Taiyo Yuden, Verbatim ( MCC ), Mitsui ( by TY ), Maxell 4x.

Disc Type = DVD-R (Single Layer)
Disc MID = 4D 43 43 20 30 31 (MCC 01)
Disc TID = 52 47 32 30 20 20 (RG20 )
Nominal Capacity = 4.23GB
Manufacturer Maybe = Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
SMART-BURN Speed Limit = 7.8X (Write)

** INFO : [DVD-R:MCC 01RG20 ]
** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 10816 KBPS (8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8112 KBPS (6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 5408 KBPS (4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #4 = 2704 KBPS (2.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]


Disc Type = DVD-R (Single Layer)
Disc MID = 54 59 47 30 31 00 (TYG01.)
Disc TID = 00 00 00 00 00 00 (…)
Nominal Capacity = 7.95GB
Manufacturer Maybe = Taiyo Yuden Company Limited
SMART-BURN Speed Limit = 7.8X (Write)

** INFO : [DVD-R:TYG01]
** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 10816 KBPS (8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8112 KBPS (6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 5408 KBPS (4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #4 = 2704 KBPS (2.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]


#4

Thanks for this info!
Dan
Colorado, USA


#5

Out here in the US, Best Buy has Verbatim 8x DVD-R 10 pack for $19.99. These disks are made in Taiwan though, hence I was a little bit skeptical in getting them.


#6

I’ve found MAXELL DVD-R 8x at a large store here in Belgium.
Was labelled “made in Japan”, so I took a shot.
Mediacode is MXL RG03. 12,5 EUR for 5 pack.


#7

:smiley: …let me know how they work. I use all flavors of Maxell DVD-R media with great success.


#8

There’s Memorex 8X +R media available here in my town @ the local bestbuy … the 15 pack I bought is basically CMC disks.


#9

Hi!

I’ve just found some PLATINUM labeled 8x -R media. A 25 cakebox for 23€ here in Germany…
I couldn’t point out the media code so far, but I will order some of these soon…

Legnerp


#10

For U.S. users, I’ll found some 8x +R media at PC Club here in Colorado Springs.

It was their “house brand”. Actually, the dvds are plain (no writing or labeling on them).

I checked via Nero’s Tools and confirmed that they are actually Ritek R03.

They are packaged as “10 Pack Spool” for $17.95. That’st the cheapest I’ve seen certified 8x media anywhere in a retail store.

Bestbuy has Verbatim 8x “10 Paks” for $19.95 and TDK 8x “15 Paks” for $29.95.

I’ve tried the Verbatim’s and the PC Clubs house brand and they burn just fine.

I understand that all of PC Clubs house brand media is made by Ritek.

Hope this info helps.

Dan
Colorado, USA


#11

I’m in Australia, and I just managed to get some RITEKG05 8X DVD-R’s from www.pcx.com.au

The same company have RITEKR03 8X DVD+R’s

So far the burn quality is quite good with the G05’s using Pioneer 107D (8x burn scan shown)

Media Information

[font=Courier New]Media code/Manufacturer ID RITEKG05

Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 08
2x Speed OPC power 12
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 98 9A 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 06
4x Speed OPC power 18
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 10 07 07
4x Write Strategy field 2 97 06 0C 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 04
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1D
4x Write Strategy field 4 17 B8 88 75
4x Write Strategy field 5 89 AC 98 81 00 10
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 22D54Fh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

[/font]

media id
00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 86 0E 11 .l…@…R…
98 9A 80 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B 47 00 04 30 35 00 …RITEKG…05.
00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 08 12 11 …



#12

Quite good? Those are freaking awesome scans!


#13

So far the burn quality is quite good with the G05’s using Pioneer 107D (8x burn scan shown)

@jackass
Please give us a shot of what your 812s does with these…


#14

I used my 812S drive for the scan, this can make the result look a lot better than it really is, sometimes

Here is a CDSpeed transfer rate scan done on my speed modded Liteon 166S drive, showing just how good this disc is.



#15

I will do this, but it will have to wait (currently midnight local time) :slight_smile:


#16

RE: 8x -R…

Just spoke with PC Club here in Colorado Springs, CO USA. They have their house brand 8x -R on order. They come packaged 10 pak. They confirmed that they are Ritek mfgr. Cost: $17.95

They ordered me some and should have this Friday.

I going to try a pack of them and check them. The price is not bad, since most -R are in this town is still higher than +R.

I’ll get and let you know how they work.

Dan
Colorado USA


#17

As promised, a RITEKG05 8X burn with 812S.

I enclose CDSpeed Scan, CDSpeed Surface scan for errors and KProbe2 scan.

Disappointing, the Pioneer did so well, Liteon has quite some work to do.





#18

Looks like the Pioneer won this battle :stuck_out_tongue:


#19

Pios are biased in favor of -R and Liteys are biased in favor of +R.


#20

You can say that again. IMO The Liteon 812S 8X DVD-R write strategy is HORRIBLE (and that is being exceptionally kind)

The 812S 8X DVD+R burns are acceptable, and the 4X DVD-R burns are acceptable.

The 812 firmware seems to need a lot of work.