Antivirus and spyware now police software

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#1

Have you notices how almost all antivirus and spyware type software are now showing programs that are not a virus and spyware as one of both.

Malwarebytes. zonealarm norton and most others now show keygen, small software that are not part of a big company write as spyware or a virus.
Never had problems running anydvd, clonedvd or nero until the past few months when zonealarm came out with a new update. Know I have to make them exceptions under zonealarm for them to work. Zonealarm even for weeks cause problems with powerdvd until they got it fixed.

Makes you wander if the large companies are paying them to do this. I do not need a antivirus program or spyware program policing my computer for things that are not a virus or spyware.


#2

[QUOTE=samlar;2483172]…Makes you wander[/QUOTE]
That would be restless less syndrome rather than a virus…

[QUOTE=samlar;2483172].I do not need a antivirus program or spyware program policing my computer for things that are not a virus or spyware.[/QUOTE] So you would rather tell the program what to flag? That should work well…:rolleyes:


#3

That would be restless [I]less [/I]syndrome rather than a virus…

More or less the truth…


#4

[QUOTE=olyteddy;2483178]More or less the truth…[/QUOTE]:o
Haste doesn’t always make waste…


#5

Yo-

How come I can’t find my dicoder when I need it…

:rolleyes:


#6

Odd, I don’t have that issue with Malwarebytes or AVG.


#7

[QUOTE=samlar;2483172]
Malwarebytes. zonealarm norton and most others now show keygen[/QUOTE]

  1. Keygen is illegal
  2. In many occasions keygens are a source for spyware and virusses
  3. If you only use software from trusted (legal) sources, you should have no problem there…

#8

[QUOTE=pipemanid;2483177]That would be restless less syndrome rather than a virus…

So you would rather tell the program what to flag? That should work well…:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Yes I would norton used to allow that and zonealarm has a way to pick ignore always but it does not work wonder why?


#9

[QUOTE=Da_Taxman;2483204]1) Keygen is illegal
2) In many occasions keygens are a source for spyware and virusses
3) If you only use software from trusted (legal) sources, you should have no problem there…[/QUOTE]

I agree that keygen is illegal and I have no problem with them removing them in my case,since I purchase my software, but I have had problems with legal software.
Powerdvd was a legal software and so was others that programs like zonealarm caused problems with.

What I was saying is that for some reason they are now going after programs that are not illegal as well as those that are.

I still think this is a little of big bother removing what they do not want us to have.


#10

I’ve had Norton Anti-virus flag and remove some tools that can be used to retrieve passwords or product keys from the Windows registry; it considers them to be “hacktools”.

I sometimes use such tools when rescuing someone’s pc, but now I have to store the tools in encrypted ZIP files to prevent Norton from removing them. :doh:


#11

I’ve had similar issues with recovery tools. For example, the tool “Magical Jelly Bean Keyfinder” retrieves the product keys for some installed software such as Windows and Microsoft Office. It is quite easy to replace the installation media, but not always so for replacement product keys, especially Microsoft products.

With a quick test using the online scanner “VirusTotal”, it checked this tool against 41 scanners and the results showed AntiVir, eSafe and McAfee reporting an infection.

My own AntiVirus Eset NOD32 is also quite picky and annoying at times and I’m most likely going to change AV once my subscription is up.

For example, have you ever heard of any problems with ExactAudioCopy?

Well, this is what Nod32 thinks of ExactAudioCopy (0.99 Prebeta 5) from the official exactaudiocopy.de website: :rolleyes:

I e-mailed Eset about this and they came back claiming it contains adware. But after downloading and installing this with Nod32 temporarily disabled, I never encountered any unexpected advertising.

Here’s another “coincidence”: Each time I try downloading the full installation of AVG Free edition on my PC, it always fails at 99% complete (at least with my 5 attempts in Firefox) with Firefox reporting that the source file could not be read. But, when I temporarily disabled Nod32, it downloads fine… I’m not aware of anything else I’ve downloaded where this happened.


#12

[QUOTE=Seán;2483251]For example, have you ever heard of any problems with ExactAudioCopy?

Well, this is what Nod32 thinks of ExactAudioCopy (0.99 Prebeta 5) from the official exactaudiocopy.de website: :rolleyes:

[/QUOTE] Yes, I had the same problem with this version of EAC and Norton Anti-Virus.


#13

I’m a long time AVG free user.Even it can detect something as a virus even if it isn’t.
A while back after an update AVG detected an infection in Burnaware.I had Burnaware for some time so I thought I would just move the file to AVG’s virus vault but I didn’t select to heal it.
I then tried Burnaware & the GUI no longer worked.I thought I could just restore the file from the virus vault.That didn’t work.
Fortunatly I can go into Program Files & use each individual .exe as needed.So I still have full function.This is a version from giveawayoftheday so better than the free version.I’ve been hoping gaotd will offer it again.
I don’t use it that much but it is a nice extra program.
So don’t always depend on the virus vault of AVG to restore a removed infected file.
I actually beleive this was a false positive.


#14

[QUOTE=bigmike7;2483184]Yo-

How come I can’t find my dicoder when I need it…

:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Get a new won :wink: [B]LOL[/B]

[QUOTE=touchdown_1;2483195]Odd, I don’t have that issue with Malwarebytes or AVG.[/QUOTE]

i also use AVG and Malwarebytes .NO problems :iagree:


#15

[QUOTE=Seán;2483251]
For example, have you ever heard of any problems with ExactAudioCopy?

Well, this is what Nod32 thinks of ExactAudioCopy (0.99 Prebeta 5) from the official exactaudiocopy.de website: :rolleyes:

[/QUOTE]The EAC installer comes with some Ebay toolbar (which you can opt to not install). That’s all.

Further I have included a desktop and quick launch bar icon in the installer which link to eBay. As the advertisements on the homepage dropped by a great amount over the last year, I decided to try to go this way. I hope that you can understand my decision! Anyway, the icons are created only on the installation of EAC and their installation can be easily prevented by deselecting the eBay component within the EAC installer. The EAC application itself is still completely free from advertisement or spyware (and will be)!
(from http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/en/index.php/resources/whats-new/whats-new/ [I]Jan 31, 2008[/I])
MSRT deleted my EAC installer file also.

Michael


#16

[QUOTE=mciahel;2483504]The EAC installer comes with some Ebay toolbar (which you can opt to not install). That’s all.[/QUOTE]

I just noticed this when I tried reinstalling it. However, while it’s technically a small adware component, it does make me wonder why Nod32 and some other AV companies find this an issue, while letting well known commercialised applications get away with installing all their toolbars, desktop advertising links, etc. without any warning. For example, Winamp’s default installation installs a browser toolbar, eMusic advertising links, not to mention advertising within its GUI, all without Nod32 (or other AVs) noticing a thing. . .

I came across the e-mail I got back from Nod32 and sure enough it’s this eBay icon being installed by default which is the reason they class this software as adware.


#17

I run Norton 360 and it has NEVER done this kind of behaviour. I also run other software to check if there is anything Norton may I missed but it always comes up “0”. Secunia was the latest and it found “0” threats. I gave up on AVG a few years ago when my computer got hit hard and AVG missed it. I had to format and lost much time. I have been with Norton since then (and before, I tried AVG for about 3 months, then went back to Norton) and my computer runs fast and fine, even though Norton 360 is a resource hog.


#18

AVG currently has a problem with the latest version of Utorrent.exe …
Adding it to AVG’s exception list doesn’t seem to make a difference… every use i have to restore it from the vault, and then disable the real-time scanner.


#19

[QUOTE=debro;2485682]AVG currently has a problem with the latest version of Utorrent.exe …
Adding it to AVG’s exception list doesn’t seem to make a difference… every use i have to restore it from the vault, and then disable the real-time scanner.[/QUOTE]

Just be glad they didn’t kill NT DLL’s this time :slight_smile: