You can defeat safe audio and any other protections thrown your way including the Charley Pride album. Here are the prequisites No computer skill necessary, but you must have a dual standalone cd/player/recorder. Take copy protected cd no matter what type of protection it is and insert in player end, insert audio cdr in recorder and set for digital. Record and the audio cdr has the same as the original. You did not violate the DCMA act because you used no computer and you certainly did not use reverse engineering. My friend and i tried above techniue with the Charley Pride album and had a digital copy. The record companies think computer and cd-rom and in this case none was used. You can go further by taking that cdr from above player and then put into cd-rom and extract files, but that is secondary. This also will bypass SCMS. This info was not pulled from the CIA files nor stolen from the FBI, its just plain common sense if you have a dual standalone cd/player/recorder.