I just bought the 4165 from Netlink a week ago. Never bought a 4163. I come
from the 4120. I had some corruption problems with using Panasonic DVD-RAM 3X
with the 4120, so that's why I bought the new one. Otherwise no problem
with the 4120.
The drive is a July production with DL03 firmware from LG's China plant. It's
the new short chassis version, the same bezel and dimension as the 4167,
the "newer, faster, cheaper, better" of LG's manufacturing strategy.
I got mines as "LG bulk retail" ( Canada ) with plastic bag, rubber band, single
CD worth of Nero ( 302MB ), PowerDVD5, Power Producer 2 Gold, PDF manual.
The "burn" date of the CD is January 05. Have not used the CD. It says Nero
Express, but I think it is a full version of Nero ROM, and installs based on the
your previous serial or license, which otherwise defaults to install just Nero
This is just my initial impression that I am able to share. From what I can tell
the drive can do 48X CD-R, same as the 4167, which is contrary to what
HLDS posted on their site. This was already mentioned by MobileNvidia. I
would assume the only difference between the 4165 and the 4167 is that the
4167 can do 6X(DVD+R-DL) versus 4X(DVD+R-DL) for the 4165. Booktype is
available the same way it was implemented since the 4120. The 4163 cannot
do any DVD-R-DL.
However, there is something I dislike about the new cheapness of LG's drives.
Compare to my Korean made 4120, the new drive bezel looks good until you
see the grain of the plastic up close. Just yuck. I prefer the smooth matt black
plastic of component electronics, that's all. But definitely, the "feel" of the
plastic on my 4120 was thicker and better. I think this is the same with the
last of the Korean 4163 also. Whereas the tray closes with a soft thud on my
4120, the new drive's tray closes with a clackety sound as it bounces on the
bezel before being latched. The front circuit board is made of material of the
60's transistor radio circuit board, whereas it is full fiberglass PCB on the 4120.
The rear business end of the drive's circuit board, however, is still fiberglass
Further hints of the cost-cutting cheapness is found on the drive's cover and
chassis metal. It sure made the 4120 feel like it is enclosed in tank. And
finally, when a disk is ejected, it would scrape the bottom of the drive cover
for some reason, but not always. So I would say the Korean made drives had
a better "fit and finish" feel compare with the newer Chinese made ones.
Otherwise, the drive's guts performs just as well and even quieter seeks than
my 4120. I only notice the seeks are a little slower than my 4120. So I guess
the new "cheap throw-away goods" that LG is pursuing to these drives lately
is bound to happen. I just prefer good fit and finish I had with the 4120 over
cheap throw aways of today's LG drives.
So yeah, the drives have come to a "cheap throw-away" price too. It is not
much more than the 4163 nowadays. I wouldn't be pondering which to buy
between the 4163 and 4165, unless you just want to wait for a little "upgrade"
4167 with the 6X-DVD+RDL feature.