15 DL fails / 2 successful / failing again

vbimport

#1

Hi,

I decided to start a new thread as this doesn’t relate to copyright protection or brand of DVD+R DL as my previous thread was about.

I recently wasted 15 dual layer DVD+R DL’s.
Whenever I tried to copy a DVD+R DL they would seem to copy fine except for when I’d put them in my DVD players they would grind around and not read at all.
Over the 15 failed burns I tried copying using different methods / programs etc, ImageBurn, Decrypter ISO read / write etc, hard drive to Nero etc
They all failed.

Today I made the changes below after 15 DVD+R DL coasters then copied 2 different DVD’s successfully in a row, straight after I made these changes !
Out of the 2 successful burns I made one was a Verbatim DVD+R DL and the other was a TDK DVD+R DL, so this really doesn’t seem to be an issue with the brand of DVD.

*I noticed on my computer that local disc D has an enormous amount of space compared to local disc C.

So:

*I changed “Path for Cache” in Nero from C drive to D drive.

*I changed Nero’s Temp files, Picture files and Imported Video files from C drive to D drive.

*In Nero Transcoding Quality-Quality Setting I changed it from “Standard Play” to “High Quality” and I changed Encoding Mode from “Fast Encoding (1 Pass)” to “High Quality (2 Pass VBR)”, but this was in another mode (Nero Vision Express) - this actually wasn’t an option in the mode I used (Nero Express) when I made the successful burn so I’m not sure what effect those changes had.

*I also deleted the version of “DVD Decrypter” I had been using and downloaded and used “DVD Fab Decrypter 3”.

I opened Nero Express, selected DVD-Video Files, add the AUDIO TS and VIDEO TS folders from my hard drive and successfully burned.
That’s the same way I used to burn DVD+R DL DVD’s months ago before I got the 15 coasters…

Today I went to copy a 3rd DVD and it’s burning coasters again, so I tried to copy one of the 2 DVD’s I successfully copied earlier today but it turned out as a coaster also …

Does anyone have any ideas why after 15 coasters I successfully burned 2 in a row after making the changes I listed above, and now I’m back to burning coasters (doing everything exactly the same as I did when I made the 2 successful burns).

I think this is the end of DL burning for me…

Thanks again.


#2

What DL media are you using? (Make and MID code if possible)

The only Dual Layer media I have ever had any success with is Verbatim DVD+RDL


#3

I’d be interested to see some error messages to see what reasons were given for the failures.

A Nero log of a failed burn would be great.


#4

Also what kinda booktype is your burner using as final format?

DVD+R DL or DVD-ROM???

But as TimC says we need more detail as what it did and what error it is giving. Also vague details from what the error display or says doesn’t give us much insight what is happening in that process your having.


#5

Hi guys, there is another thread I made here last week here where I attached a failed burn log etc, in that particular burn I was using a TDK disc as I had run out of Verbatim discs, but I was getting the same results with Verbatim, out of th 15 failed burns the majority of the discs were Verbatim.
Amazingly in the 2 recent successful burns I made one discs was TDK and one was Verbatim.
This will give you some idea to the methods I have already tried, the discs either seem to burn with no error but when I try to play them will just grind around in my player and not read, or I will get Power Calibration Errors.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=205666

Someone is telling me it’s a layer break issue and the only thing that will truly solve the issue is using AnyDVD and CloneCD, unfortunetly they’re not free and I tried AnyDVD some weeks ago for another reason and the trial has expired.


#6

I just responded to your other thread and provided the links to the ripit4me and imgburn products as requested. Having both threads going has the potential to be frustrating.


#7

Hi jeff, sorry about the double post, I considered the other thread to be full of useless info now as there have been many things suggested there that can now definately be ruled out, I thought it was making it much easier for people to read through by summing everything up in a short version, rather than have to read through many posts of now useless info…


#8

Nero does not handle the changing the layer break well. That’s when the laser switches to the second layer of the disc. If this is not corrrect the burn will fail or the playback may freeze. When i first started burning DL dvds i used Nero and had the same problems you’re having. Someone suggested using this method and since then it’s been no problems at all. Using Imgburn over Nero will definitely help but i use this method because i like seeing where the layer break is so i can check for errors during playback.


#9

There are in fact two other threads on progress, which I just closed to stop the confusion:

dual layer burn fail / single layer is OK

Is this a copyright protection issue ?

I appreciate you were considering it would be easier, but please let’s keep it all in the same thread from now on.

To be honest, even though it might grow to several pages, it’s the best way of letting everyone know what the real progress has been.


#10

I purchased 3 Verbatim DVD+R DL discs today
I managed to get a trial version of AnyDVD running.
I did it this way as I have had success this way in the past.

*Turned on AnyDVD and selected the drive I put the original DVD in that I wanted to copy.
*Opened Nero Express
*DVD-Video Files
*Selected the original DVD in the drive (the audio and video ts files)
*Then loaded them in using “add” and selected the files and burned at 2.4X.
This has been successfual in the past, but I got the Error below in the log.
I don’t have the knowledge to understand it.
Can anyone see what went wrong and why ?
In the last few seconds I can see “Key Illegal Request” and “Key Medium Error” and “Power Calibration Error”.

Will going through this process exactly the same except burning with CDClone and not nero really make a difference with the layer break ?
I’ve only got 2 Verbatim discs left ?

Any help is really appreciated , thanks !

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead
ero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 27/10/2004 3:35:32 AM 
Nero Version: 6.6.0.17
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 17c
 (Nero Express)
Recorder:             <LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S>Version: MS0P - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.6.0.17
 Adapter driver:      <atapi>                   HA 0
 Drive buffer  :      2048kB
 Bus Type      :      default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI 
CD-ROM:               <PIONEER  DVD-ROM DVD-120 >Version: 1.22 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.0.17
 Adapter driver:      <atapi>                   HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral       : ST3120023A                       atapi Port 0 ID 0  DMA: On 
CdRomPeripheral      : LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S         atapi Port 0 ID 1  DMA: On 
CdRomPeripheral      : SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-240B          atapi Port 1 ID 0  DMA: On 
CdRomPeripheral      : PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-120          atapi Port 1 ID 1  DMA: On 

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S   E:   CDRom0
SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-240B    F:   CDRom1
PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-120    G:   CDRom2
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs: 
WriteBufferSize: 70254592 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE           : 0
Physical memory     : 479MB (490852kB)
Free physical memory: 54MB (55648kB)
Memory in use       : 88 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry    : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0) 

16.1.2007
UDF/ISO compilation
11:25:17 PM	#1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
	DVD-Video files reallocation started
	
11:25:18 PM	#2 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 552
	Content of VIDEO_TS.IFO has been modified
	
11:25:18 PM	#3 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 552
	Content of VIDEO_TS.BUP has been modified
	
11:25:18 PM	#4 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 552
	Content of VTS_01_0.IFO has been modified
	
11:25:18 PM	#5 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 552
	Content of VTS_01_0.BUP has been modified
	
11:25:18 PM	#6 Phase 113 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
	DVD-Video files reallocation completed
	
11:25:18 PM	#7 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6356
	UDF document burn settings
	------------------------------------------
	Determine maximum speed : FALSE
	Simulate                : FALSE
	Write                   : TRUE
	Finalize CD             : TRUE
	Multisession            : FALSE
	Burning mode            : DAO
	Mode                    : 1
	UDF Mode                : UDF/ISO bridge
	UDF Revision            : 1.02
	UDF Partition Type      : physical
	ISO Level               : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
	Character set           : ISO 9660
	Joliet                  :FALSE
	Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
	Allow more than 255 characters in path  : FALSE
	Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions        : TRUE
	
11:25:18 PM	#8 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
	DVD-Video files sorted
	
11:25:18 PM	#9 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
	Reader running
	
11:25:18 PM	#10 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
	Writer LITE-ON  DVDRW SHM-165P6S running
	
11:25:18 PM	#11 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
	First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
	
11:25:18 PM	#12 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
	First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
	
11:25:18 PM	#13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
	Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
	
11:25:20 PM	#14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
	Last possible write address on media:  4173823 (927:30.73, 8151MB)
	Last address to be written:            3837535 (852:47.10, 7495MB)
	
11:25:20 PM	#15 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
	Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
	
11:25:20 PM	#16 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
	Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S, Media type: DVD+R9 Double Layer
	 Disc Manufacturer ID: MKM, Media Type ID: 001, Product revision number: 0
	 Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 0
	
11:25:20 PM	#17 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
	>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
	=========================================
	
11:25:20 PM	#18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
	Setup items (after recorder preparation)
	 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
	    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
	    original disc pos #0 + 3837536 (3837536) = #3837536/852:47.11
	    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
	    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 3837536 blocks [LITE-ON  DVDRW SHM-165P6S]
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
11:25:20 PM	#19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
	Prepare recorder [LITE-ON  DVDRW SHM-165P6S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
	DAO infos:
	==========
	 MCN: ""
	 TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
	 Tracks 1 to 1:
	   1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos             0             0    7859273728, ISRC ""
	DAO layout:
	===========
	 __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
	       0 |  lead-in |   0 |    0x41 | 0x00
	       0 |        1 |   0 |    0x41 | 0x00
	       0 |        1 |   1 |    0x41 | 0x00
	 3837536 | lead-out |   1 |    0x41 | 0x00
	
11:25:20 PM	#20 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
	Caching of files started
	
11:25:20 PM	#21 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4120
	Cache writing successful.
	
11:25:20 PM	#22 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
	Caching of files completed
	
11:25:21 PM	#23 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
	Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)
	
11:25:21 PM	#24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
	Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
	
11:26:07 PM	#25 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
	SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x0B7A0A00
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
	Sense Code: 0x24
	Sense Qual: 0x00
	CDB Data:   0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x21 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00 
	
11:26:07 PM	#26 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 628
	L0 Data Zone Capacity set to 2062720 (1F7980h, 4028MB) -> OK, confirmed setting
	
11:26:07 PM	#27 CDR -1205 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 655
	Burning Layer 1
	
11:26:07 PM	#28 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 665
	Start writing layer 1 at address 0 (0h)
	Recording mode: unknown Recording Mode
	
11:26:07 PM	#29 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8892
	---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
	Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
	 Book Type: DVD+R DL (14), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
	 Disc Size: 120 mm,      Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
	 Number of Layers: 2,    Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP),  Layer Type: recordable
	 Linear Density:         0,293 um/bit,  Track Density:  0,74 um/track
	 Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
	 End Physical Sector Number of Data Area:      FCFFFF h
	 End Sector Number in Layer 0:                 22797F h (LBN: 1F797F h, 4028 MB)
	 Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
	  Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
	  Extended Information indicators: 0 h
	  Disc Manufacturer ID: MKM.....
	  Media type ID: 001
	  Product revision number: 0
	  Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 64
	 Media Specific [16..63]:
	      00 00 00 4D 4B 4D 00 00 - 00 00 00 30 30 31 00 40    ...MKM.....001.@
	      25 25 37 0C 02 2F 63 02 - 2F 63 21 23 0D 0E 14 14    %%7../c./c!#....
	      02 01 01 10 00 21 23 0D - 0E 14 14 02 01 01 10 00    .....!#.........
	
11:26:07 PM	#30 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5814
	Drive: LITE-ON  DVDRW SHM-165P6S
	Book Type request [LO], rev 3: DVD-ROM
	Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0
	
11:26:07 PM	#31 CDR -1211 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5235
	Book Type set to: DVD-ROM
	
11:26:07 PM	#32 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 665
	Start write address at LBA 0
	DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
	
11:47:32 PM	#33 CDR -1206 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 1909
	Burning Layer 2
	
11:47:32 PM	#34 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 1920
	Perform layer 1 to 2 jump before writing at address 2062720 (1F7980h)
	
11:47:32 PM	#35 SCSI -1106 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1436
	SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x0B070000
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
	Sense Code: 0x73
	Sense Qual: 0x03
	CDB Data:   0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x1F 0x79 0x80 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x73 0x03 
	
11:47:32 PM	#36 CDR -1106 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
	Power calibration error
	
11:47:33 PM	#37 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
	all writers idle, stopping conversion
	
11:47:33 PM	#38 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
	conversion idle, stopping reader
	
11:47:35 PM	#39 SCSI -1106 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
	SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 1, LUN 0
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
	Sense Code: 0x73
	Sense Qual: 0x03
	CDB Data:   0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x73 0x03 
	
11:47:35 PM	#40 SCSI -1176 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
	SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 1, LUN 0
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
	Sense Code: 0x72
	Sense Qual: 0x03
	CDB Data:   0x5B 0x01 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x72 0x03 
	
11:47:35 PM	#41 Phase 127 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
	Generating DVD high compatibility borders
	
11:47:35 PM	#42 Phase 129 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
	Generating DVD borders completed successfully
	
11:47:35 PM	#43 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5814
	Drive: LITE-ON  DVDRW SHM-165P6S
	Book Type request [LO], rev 3: DVD+R DL
	Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0
	
11:47:35 PM	#44 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
	Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)
	

Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 3/08/2004 10:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

#11

Is your burner with the latest firmware already?

If yes, try burning with Imgburn, maybe try simulation mode first, if possible.


#12

It sounds like you’re burning disc to disc. You should never do that, especially with a DL disc. If you’re going to use AnyDvd you should get a copy of Dvd Decrypter from here. Having Anydvd running in the background will deal with the protections Dvd Decrypter can’t. If you want an exact, uncompressed backup of the movie extract in .iso mode and make sure to check create a .mds file because that’s where the layer break info is. Next download a copy of Imgburn from here. Burn the image making sure to use the .mds file to load into Imgburn. You can have Imgburn calculate the optimal layer break and you should be fine.

As long as you keep burning DL dvds with Nero you will probably have issues. I’m not saying that just to be negative about Nero, i’m saying that because i had the same problems as you. I’ve read too many times where people are having trouble with DL discs and Nero. Someone suggested the method that I mentioned before and it’s been no looking back. If you don’t wan’t to go through all of that at least try this way.


#13

if your gonna use decrypter or anything else where you rip the dvd in “file mode”…i.e…video ts folders and such…use this tutorial on how to set the layer break using imgburn…also…rip to iso…don’t use video ts for DL


#14

Yes my firmware is up do date.
I know it seems wrong that I always try to burn with Nero, and it might seem like I’ve ignored a few tips as I have mentioned Nero after people have told me not to use it but that is because the only times I have ever successfully copied a DL DVD I used Nero !

OK I just made a successful burn !, and again, I did it a way I have actually been told not to do it… Maybe someone can offer more info or has a different opinion…

First I should say I have previously failed 2 or 3 times using DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0 to do an Iso Read and Iso write.

I did the same today but did 1 thing different, I had AnyDVD running in the background, I have read not to do that because apparently DVD Decrypter and AnyDVD cause each other problems, but someone who has far more knowledge than myself told me to do it, so I did and I made my 3rd successful burn out of about 20 failed burns…

I really hope that is the end of all my problems, but it sounds too good to be true, is AnyDVD really the solution to this ? I know I recently had 15 failed burns, then 2 successful then 5 failed after that, so I hope the next few burns don’t end up being failed burns…

But this time an ISO Read & Write with DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0 with AnyDVD running in the background has worked…

Does the burn log look OK ?

I 15:22:27 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
I 15:22:27 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 15:22:27 Initialising SPTI…
I 15:22:27 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices…
I 15:22:27 Found 1 CD-RW, 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD-RAM/±RW!
I 15:23:46 Operation Started!
I 15:23:46 Source File: D:\THE_CURE.MDS
I 15:23:46 Source File Sectors: 3,837,352 (MODE1/2048)
I 15:23:46 Source File Size: 7,858,896,896 bytes
I 15:23:46 Source File Implementation Identifier: Sonic Scenarist 3.1
I 15:23:46 Destination Device: [0:1:0] LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S MS0P (E:) (ATA)
I 15:23:47 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x)
I 15:23:47 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 15:23:47 Write Mode: DVD
I 15:23:47 Write Type: SAO
I 15:23:47 Write Speed: 4x
I 15:23:47 Link Size: Auto
I 15:23:47 Test Mode: No
I 15:23:47 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 15:23:47 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,062,736
I 15:23:47 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc
I 15:24:38 Filling Buffer…
I 15:25:02 Writing LeadIn…
I 15:25:04 Writing Image…
I 15:53:55 Synchronising Cache…
I 15:53:59 Closing Track…
I 15:54:00 Finalising Disc…
I 15:56:27 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:32:40
I 15:56:27 Average Write Rate: 4,433 KB/s (3.2x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,715 KB/s (4.1x)

Thanks guys !


#15

That’s fine & exactly how it should be. It’s also the way I’d do a 1:1 copy to DL media & the one most likely to succeed.

I’ve never thought that AnyDVD & DVD Decrypter should have a problem working together.

I’d be inclined to burn these ISO images with ImgBurn but it’s unlikely to make any real difference.


#16

OK, so this must mean AnyDVD helps burn the layer break properly and is not just used to crack the copyright on the discs ? Is that correct ?
If not my problem isn’t really solved as I had a couple of DVD+R DL discs that failed when I tried to copy them (without using AnyDVD), so obviously the DVD+R DL disc didn’t fail because of copyright protection, it must have been something to do with the layer break as I have never had a problem burning single layer DVD’s…
So I’m thinking my recent successful result was because AnyDVD helped burn the “layer break” correctly, would that be true ?, I thought it was only a copyright tool ?


#17

No. I’ve already answered this before. Anydvd doesn’t burn anything. Anydvd can find the original layer break position–but Anydvd doesn’t burn anything. And you must have it running in the background when using Decrypter, otherwise Decrypter will not be able to handle some protections solely on its own.

Decrypter should have produced a mds file. You either load that mds file into imgburn (or double click it). This retains the layer break info.

Using Nero cd-dvd speed first to change the booktype to dvd-rom and then using Clonecd with Anydvd running in the background is much easier and faster than using Decrypter + Imgburn (but the Clonecd+anydvd solution isn’t free).

The complete freeware method is to use Ripit4me/FixVTS/Decrypter + Imgburn (again, not as simple or as fast as using Anydvd+Clonecd).

By the way, when backing up movies with Nero, people generally use Nero Recode–and not whatever method you were originally using. Nero Recode, like Shrink, however, will not retain the original layer break position (nor will most transcoder based apps). Consequently, I do not recommend using Shrink, Nero Recode, Clonedvd2, etc., with Verbatim +R DL discs if you wish to retain the original layer break position. These solutions are better suited, in my opinion, for single layer breaks. Again, with these programs, you need Anydvd running in the background while using them–or use Ripit4me first.


#18

errr, not breaks . . . blanks, I mean


#19

Yeah I know AnyDVD doesn’t actually burn anything, I worded things the wrong way, sorry.
I should have asked if AnyDVD helps prevent in any way things going wrong with the layer break (which in the end will prevent a bad / failed burn) as I thought AnyDVD was only used for copyright protection.


#20

Only insofar as Anydvd removes the protection on the original disc and can determine where the original layer break position is . . .
Otherwise, no