Replacement Drives for Liteon 5xxx Recorders
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12-08-2008
- # 176
Hi Gash44,Quote:Originally Posted by gash44
barkey- The 190A when installed in a 5005 will not record DVD-R or DVD-RW. I have tried different new two 190A's in 3 different 5005's and all fail when recording DVD-R/RW. Records DVD+R/RW's fine so if you do not need to use the -R/RW you will be all set.
My 5005's have a the current 0098 firm where installed. The 120C is a much better drive if you can find them. They work with all discs with no problems.
Thanks for the advice. I will replace the Sony DRU-190A with the Memorex MRX-530L-DO-R and give it a try. I tested the Memorex and played fine but did not test recording. If the Memorex does not work, I am going to try the BENQ 1620. In my old PC, I have 2 burners: One BENQ 1620 and another LITE ON 451s.
Where can you buy the 120C? Do I have the 0098 firmware?
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- Posted:
12-08-2008
- # 177
The Benq 1620 will be best choice of drives you have since it's a fully functional burner replacement according to another forum I read. That means the Benq 1620 should even do VCD recording which all newer drives won't. I got a Benq 1620 a few months ago for that reason and plan using it for replacement in another 5005 when it's needed. - Posted:
12-08-2008
- # 178
I am going to test first the Memorex MRX-530L-DO-R tonight. I will let you know if it records. If not, I will install the BENQ 1620.Quote:Originally Posted by bevills1 The Benq 1620 will be best choice of drives you have since it's a fully functional burner replacement according to another forum I read. That means the Benq 1620 should even do VCD recording which all newer drives won't. I got a Benq 1620 a few months ago for that reason and plan using it for replacement in another 5005 when it's needed. - Posted:
13-08-2008
- # 179
Hi barkey.Quote:Originally Posted by barkey Hi Gash44,
Thanks for the advice. I will replace the Sony DRU-190A with the Memorex MRX-530L-DO-R and give it a try. I tested the Memorex and played fine but did not test recording. If the Memorex does not work, I am going to try the BENQ 1620. In my old PC, I have 2 burners: One BENQ 1620 and another LITE ON 451s.
Where can you buy the 120C? Do I have the 0098 firmware?
I do not know if you have the 0098 firmware. You can check by going to setup on the menu and look at the top of the screen. I get the 120C's off of ebay.
As far as the 0098 firmware goes I still do not think that is the problem I have the hacked 0098 firmware and the 190A still will fail with -R/RW discs on 3 5005's I have.
You can also look for dru-710's on ebay the also work fine. Good luck with the BenQ would like to know if it does the FF and burns -R/RW discs.
I just ordered a Sony AW-Q170A off of ebay when I get it in I will let you know how it works. - Posted:
19-08-2008
- # 180
This is an update.Quote:Originally Posted by barkey I am going to test first the Memorex MRX-530L-DO-R tonight. I will let you know if it records. If not, I will install the BENQ 1620.
I installed the Memorex MRX-530L-DO-R and recorded fine in my LVW-5005!!! This drive is a good replacement. The Sony DRU-190A will not let you record but it will let you play and FF DVDs.
I bought the Memorex MRX-530L-DO-R at geeks.com for US$22 but they don't have it anymore. - Posted:
19-08-2008
- # 181
Look at this post regarding the Memorex MRX-530L:Quote:Originally Posted by barkey This is an update.
I installed the Memorex MRX-530L-DO-R and recorded fine in my LVW-5005!!! This drive is a good replacement. The Sony DRU-190A will not let you record but it will let you play and FF DVDs.
I bought the Memorex MRX-530L-DO-R at geeks.com for US$22 but they don't have it anymore.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f44/how-can...d-lite-246173/ - Posted:
20-08-2008
- # 182
I just bought another Memorex MRX-530L today. Geeks.com has the drive in stock again.Quote:Originally Posted by barkey Look at this post regarding the Memorex MRX-530L:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f44/how-can...d-lite-246173/
Here is the link:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?inv...L-DO-R&cat=DVD - Posted:
22-08-2008
- # 183
Hi. Looking for a little help with this too. I've just replaced my dead liteon drive in a 5026ghc+ with the sony dru-190A. It will play anything and everything I throw at it, including vcd and divx/xvid discs, but I can't get it to record successfully. Actually thats not altogether true - I did get it to record to a dvd+rw disc, but I can't get it to play back on anything. Even the PC won't recognise it.
I set the region on the drive to 2 via the pc before installing it and as I say, it'll play absolutely everything in whatever format. Any tips on how I can get it to record successfully? I understand it does have a problem recording to dvd- and dvd-rw, but that's not a problem really. I would however like to try and get it to record to +R or +RW.
For info, the firmware on the main liteon unit is as it was when i bought it ie 018. Never felt the need to change it as it's run without a hitch for 3 years now, until the drive failed. The drive is definitely knackered as even the PC can't make it do anything.
Many thanks in advance
Smudg0r - Posted:
22-08-2008
- # 184
Hmmm the plot thickens - a little update.
Just after I posted I remembered that back when I bought it, I'd set the player to be region free via the menu accessed by pressing a certain sequence of buttons at a certain part of the menu. Managed to find how I'd done it and put it back to region 2, (I'm in the UK) so it's now the same as the drive. Have just successfully copied a prog (3 actually) from the hard drive to a Verbatim DVD-R disc! Plays back fine on the player and I'm assuming will play fine anywhere else once it's finalised.
Don't know if that might help anyone else struggling to record, but it might be worth checking to make sure the liteon is set to the same region as the actual drive.
In summary, the Sony DRU - 190A I've installed is playing all formats, including vcd and divx/xvid, ff works, and after removing the region free setting on the liteon unit and putting it to the same region as the physical drive, I can successfully burn DVD-R discs.
Regards, Smudg0r (happy bunny
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22-08-2008
- # 185
Alternatively you could have set the drive region free and probably got it to work and have region free advantages. This causes me to wonder whether this is the reason a few others had difficulty recording -R media with the Sony DRU-190A, and it's probably work their trying it to see if it helps. - Posted:
22-08-2008
- # 186
I had originally planned to set the new drive as region free, but read somewhere that this could cause problems too, so played it safe and set it to 2. Having had a bit of a wrestling match getting the sony to fit in the liteon (it does fit with a few minor modifications and I even managed to get the liteon faceplate back on and working) I'm not inclined to take it back out again.
The region free thing was something I didn't actually need now as I have a standalone player that will play all discs. Prior to that the liteon was the only one that would, so it's no great loss. I'm just chuffed that I have a replacement drive that seems to do everything I need it to - for a while there I really thought I was going to have to get a whole new unit.
Regards, Smudg0r - Posted:
22-08-2008
- # 187
I had a Sony DRU - 190A installed in my 5005 and was able to play but not record. I setup the region in my PC to Region 1 and then I installed the drive to the 5005. The 5005 is setup as Region Free and I was not able to record but played everything.Quote:Originally Posted by smudg0r Hmmm the plot thickens - a little update.
Just after I posted I remembered that back when I bought it, I'd set the player to be region free via the menu accessed by pressing a certain sequence of buttons at a certain part of the menu. Managed to find how I'd done it and put it back to region 2, (I'm in the UK) so it's now the same as the drive. Have just successfully copied a prog (3 actually) from the hard drive to a Verbatim DVD-R disc! Plays back fine on the player and I'm assuming will play fine anywhere else once it's finalised.
Don't know if that might help anyone else struggling to record, but it might be worth checking to make sure the liteon is set to the same region as the actual drive.
In summary, the Sony DRU - 190A I've installed is playing all formats, including vcd and divx/xvid, ff works, and after removing the region free setting on the liteon unit and putting it to the same region as the physical drive, I can successfully burn DVD-R discs.
Regards, Smudg0r (happy bunny)
Then I exchanged the Sony DRU - 190A for a Memorex
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?inv...L-DO-R&cat=DVD
and now plays and records fine.
I am keeping my Sony DRU-190A as a back up when needed and I will keep in mind to change the Region in the 5005 to Region 1 in order to RECORD. - Posted:
23-08-2008
- # 189
ufopro==even with your first post, I have to assume you are joking?
But in the spirit of good will==read this thread. THEN if you have a question,
ask away. All the info here applies to the 5045.__________________
Killed my Gigabyte K8SN-939 with a bios update. Now building a system based on ASUS A8V-VM SE keeping the 939 socket for price/performance. Liteon 5045 settop recorder with caddy tray for editing on computer. Something breaks all the time!!! "Standards should be tighter so that software/hardware worked more reliably on these computers. Too many glitches in normal operation!!" //bobbo. - Posted:
24-08-2008
- # 190
No, I really wasn't joking. Read many of threads here but nothing was mention on this particular model or drive. I'm going to assume that the lite-on corp. has made many different models of recorders and those recorders have used many different drives. This assumtion is base on past experiences with other electronic corp. Now, what I believe is that all these drives that are mention in all the threads will work in my recorder? Thanks - Posted:
25-08-2008
- # 191
ufopro==thats silly. This thread that you posted on is about all Liteon 5xxx series recorders including YOUR and mine 5045. I posted a while back about the two replacement models that worked in my Liteon 5045. This whole thread is about 5045's.
Read it again. The start of the thread names replacement models that are no longer available in retail stores. Go back just a week or two and you will find the replacement models currently available and how they work. This thread is exactly what you asked for.__________________
Killed my Gigabyte K8SN-939 with a bios update. Now building a system based on ASUS A8V-VM SE keeping the 939 socket for price/performance. Liteon 5045 settop recorder with caddy tray for editing on computer. Something breaks all the time!!! "Standards should be tighter so that software/hardware worked more reliably on these computers. Too many glitches in normal operation!!" //bobbo. - Posted:
25-08-2008
- # 192
Vacation's over, the case is open, and I'm tearing my hair out here (sigh).Quote:Originally Posted by rthurlow Hi folks, I'm back. I received the Sony DRU-810A and believe it's good, but I haven't opened my 5005 yet. I got nervous and wanted to hedge my bet, so I jumped on a Lite-On DH-20A4P at newegg.com (just $21 delivered). I want to try recording with both drives when I open the case, which might not be before I go on vacation.
The Sony DRU-810A has the latest RPC 1 firmware available from rpc.org, 1.0e. I think it is a rebadged BenQ 1640, initially looked lovely once I got it in. That was a bit of a job - the screw holes are different, so the RF shield was awkward, and it took fudging to get the door working. I put in a DVD+R, and recording worked great at all speeds, and the drive was nice and quiet, too. But a DVD-R prepared but would not record at all - the record put up the symbol you get when trying to play an empty disk. DVD+RW wouldn't record, either, which was a surprise. DVD-RW worked well, another surprise after DVD+RW failed. I could read DVD-Video from another region, but if I can't record to the DVD-R media I own ... Oh, the DVD+R book type wasn't set, either - that had appeared to work in my external case (a DVD+R got a book type of DVD-ROM). But I hadn't set the book type after I loaded the 1.0e firmware.
So I dropped in the Lite-On DH-20A4P. Wow - what a crater. The 5005 takes quite awhile to power on with this drive in place (40 seconds vs. the usual 12), can't successfully open and close the drive door, and always reports "Invalid Disc' without ever managing to spin up the drive. I was prepared to believe I had toasted this with a static discharge or something until I put it back in my external case and burned and validated a test video with no problems. Whatever the prior Lite-Ons were like, this model looks like a no-go.
In frustration, I put the Sony DRU-800A back in. It failed to initialize a Sony 16x DVD-R after a long, noisy and ugly procedure, which reinforced my desire to dum the drive. I do wonder if I can update the firmware for this drive to get better 16x -R strategies. This drive probably likes +R's better at this point, and seemed to like +RWs a lot as well, but it does seem to be more likely to fail to prepare media all the time, and to suffer from more bad write events. I assume it is going the way of the original drive the 5005 came with, though I don't think I worked it as hard. With smarter 16x strategies, I may get more life out of the old drive yet. I don't use DVD+R because I don't have bitsetting working with this drive, either, despite trying.
Does anyone have any words of wisdom about this stuff?
Rob T - Posted:
25-08-2008
- # 193
Another question, this one short and dumb - how do I get bitsetting such that recordings on my 5005 have DVD-ROM instead of DVD+R? I have tried on two separate drives (Sony DRU-800A (Lite-On) and Sony DRU-810A (BenQ)), and both write a booktype of DVD-ROM in my external case and DVD+R in the 5005. I'm sad, because this means I can't rely on DVD+R recordings - they won't play in my van. What should I be doing? I don't recall what I did for the 800A, but I believe I used Imgburn's BenQ code for the 810A. - Posted:
25-08-2008
- # 194
First double check to be sure drive jumper is set to Master which it should be for all burner replacements. According to http://club.cdfreaks.com/f44/liteon1...u-800a-211445/ the Sony DRU-800A is rebadged LiteOn 1693 which means you need to use the OmniPatcher to permanently set book type to DVD-ROM for +R media. LiteOn models 1693 and older revert to +R book type if the Book Type Utility is used.
The Sony DRU-810A is either a rebadged Benq 1640 or 1650 depending on what's on the drive label; 810A=1640 and 810A-R=1650. I'm unfamiliar with bitsetting on the Benq, and someone more familiar with Benq might help there. However, failure to burn -R with the DRU-810A may indicate this drive is not a good choice for burner replacement.
The 16x media issue may reside with the recorder itself. Some have flashed the 5005 with latest LiteOn firmware to fix 16x media issues and then flash back to hacked 098 firmware resulting in fixed 16x media issue and regain hack advantages. - Posted:
25-08-2008
- # 195
(Sound of slapping forehead)Quote:Originally Posted by bevills1 First double check to be sure drive jumper is set to Master which it should be for all burner replacements.
Yup, this was the problem with the LiteOn 20A4P. I've just recorded 20 seconds or so to all of DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD-RW and DVD+RW, and the region-free stuff is letting me play a region 3+4 video as well. The only thing missing (and this is a theme with me, I fear) is that the bitsetting is not there. But I'm already back to where I was before, so the drive I is likely a good replacement.
Regarding bitsetting, I'm going to try the LiteOn settings utility first. As a behaviour check, can I expect this to be applied to a DVD+R after disk is prepared, or only after it's finalized?
Thanks for the explanation, that makes sense.Quote:Originally Posted by bevills1 Sony DRU-800A is rebadged LiteOn 1693 which means you need to use the OmniPatcher to permanently set book type to DVD-ROM for +R media. LiteOn models 1693 and older revert to +R book type if the Book Type Utility is used.
I'm with you. Furtunately, I have a purpose for this drive, which has worked really well in computer applications.Quote:Originally Posted by bevills1 The Sony DRU-810A is either a rebadged Benq 1640 or 1650 depending on what's on the drive label; 810A=1640 and 810A-R=1650. I'm unfamiliar with bitsetting on the Benq, and someone more familiar with Benq might help there. However, failure to burn -R with the DRU-810A may indicate this drive is not a good choice for burner replacement.
I think I'm stuck here - I think my 5005 is old enough that I can't upgrade past 098, IIRC from past work on it. I'll have to see how the 20A4P does - so far, it prepared Sony 16X DVD-R very easily.Quote:Originally Posted by bevills1 The 16x media issue may reside with the recorder itself. Some have flashed the 5005 with latest LiteOn firmware to fix 16x media issues and then flash back to hacked 098 firmware resulting in fixed 16x media issue and regain hack advantages.
Finally, thanks much bevills1 - this was very helpful!
Rob T - Posted:
25-08-2008
- # 196
Answering my own question - after preparation, the DVD+R still had a DVD+R book type, but after it was finalized, the disk looked like a DVD-ROM, as I wanted.Quote:Originally Posted by rthurlow Regarding bitsetting, I'm going to try the LiteOn settings utility first. As a behaviour check, can I expect this to be applied to a DVD+R after disk is prepared, or only after it's finalized?
It's nice having a fully-working 5005 again! I did see the fast-foward hang on the 20A4P, but it only hung until I hit play; I'd heard some drives needed a reboot.
Rob T - Posted:
26-08-2008
- # 197
The Book Type Utility should work for all models past LiteOn 1693 including the 20A4P, but book type won't show DVD-ROM until after being finalized as you observed. You could go to the LiteOn site to see if there are any updates for your 5005. I have one that's over 4 years old that has updates to 0101 firmware.
The 20A4P might be able to be cross flashed to the corresponding Sony rebadge to gain fast forward function if that's important, but I'd not worry about that if fast forward is unimportant. Note this is only my suspicion based on other rebadged LiteOn Sony models including DRU-120C and DRU-190A having normal foast forward function. I cross flashed my SHM-165P6S to DRU-120C to gain fast forward function as have some others. - Posted:
30-08-2008
- # 198
New information tonight, and not exactly what I wanted. I had a few transfers from VHS tape that I'd put off because my 5005 wasn't reliable, so I tried this tonight on the 20A4P. I tried Sony 16x DVD-r first, and when I validated it on my main DVD player (a Pioneer DV-45A), it had a regular pause every couple of seconds. I tried a transfer to a TDK 16x DVD-R to compare, and it was worse. I tried another VHS tape that I thought was in better shape, and saw the same thing. Finally, I tried a TDK 16x DVD+R - no issues on the DV-45A! I've since tried them on my laptop, and it likes all of the disks, but the DV-45A looks like it's reacting to errors on the DVD-Rs. That's sad - I had rejected some disks as unreliable on the original drive and the Sony DRU-800A, but the DRU-800A did well with both the Sony and TDK 16x DVD-Rs. Now that I have book type working, I expect that I can use DVD+Rs, but I have a spindle of the Sonys, and if I was going to change media, I might have done that with the DRU-800A and done well. I appear to have the latest firmware available for this new drive.
BTW, I was unable to see C1 or C2 errors with Nero's CD-DVD Speed program - it seems like it's just not gathering the data. The drives I'm using both appear to support C2 error reporting. Any tips on making sure to see those on a burned disc?
Rob T - Posted:
31-08-2008
- # 199
Since this is a real time transfer, I hope you tested the disk writing at slower speeds?
Maybe superstitious but I don't trust high speed media. Your mileage may differ.__________________
Killed my Gigabyte K8SN-939 with a bios update. Now building a system based on ASUS A8V-VM SE keeping the 939 socket for price/performance. Liteon 5045 settop recorder with caddy tray for editing on computer. Something breaks all the time!!! "Standards should be tighter so that software/hardware worked more reliably on these computers. Too many glitches in normal operation!!" //bobbo. - Posted:
03-09-2008
- # 200
I just put in a Sony AD-7190A burner into my 5045 today and it is working great so far. I first put it into my computer and upgraded the firmware to 1.05 (from 1.04). Then I put in a region 4 DVD to set the region code, but it played the film right away without asking for a region code.
I had some trouble fitting it into the DVR, but after an hour or two, I managed in the end. I still need to secure it better, though it's sitting fairly snug in there.
I put in an old DVD+RW that I had lying around and burned a couple of video clips to disk, no problem. I played back the clips from the DVD+RW and they played fine and I could Fast Forward.
I then put in a region 2 PAL DVD and this also played fine. Fast Forwarding also worked.
Last edited by giannid; 03-09-2008 at 02:50.
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