LiteOn DH20A3 Test Firmware - Results & Discussion

*NewFish* · 30-11-2007

XV5M-691
Verbatim MCC 004 (PAPA16LC)
OHT - off, SB, HT, OS - on, @20x, time - 4:56

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	691_mcc004_20x_oht-off.png (68.0 KB, 100 views)
	691_mcc004_20x_Jitter_DQS_oht-off.png (63.1 KB, 99 views)

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*zhadoom* · 30-11-2007

Verbatim 16x -R ( MCC03RG20 ) burned at 18x. OHT,FHT,OS on SB off

XV5M-HT691

The PIF is great.

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	LITE-ON_DVDRW_SHM-165P6S_MS0R_29-November-2007_21_52.png (39.3 KB, 96 views)
	LITE-ON_DVDRW_SHM-165P6S_MS0R_29-November-2007_21_58.png (33.9 KB, 96 views)

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BD-Writer LG BH12LS30 1.01

LG BH08LS20 2.00

LG GGW-H20L YL07

Samsung SH-S223C SB06

- SH-S203B(SB04 FR FB EOPC)

- SH-W162C TS11

- TS-H552U US09

BENQ 1620 B7W9

- LG H42N@H44N RB01 - Region Reset
H10A@H10N@H12N UJ13

- H22N 1.02

- H55N 1.06

- GH22NP20 2.00

- GH22NS50

Liteon iHAS122B@524B

Liteon iHAS122A@524A

Sony AD-7190A@DH20A3P XV68 - EOHT - FB - FR - EOS / XV6D - Sony G120A@165P6S MS0R

Pioneer DVR-K17 - DVR-108 1.18 by nil:

**C0deKing** · 30-11-2007

OEM PRODISC R04, burned at 20x, All On (4:52)

Very cheap media burned at 20x.

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	D175_XV5M_PRODISC_R04_20x_NS_BS_1.png (42.4 KB, 94 views)
	D175_XV5M_PRODISC_R04_20x_NS_ES_1.png (39.2 KB, 92 views)
	D175_XV5M_PRODISC_R04_20x_NS_RS_1.png (37.0 KB, 93 views)

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*zhadoom* · 30-11-2007

Wind,

two burns of MCC004 from the same batch as previously posted in this thread and burned at 20x. The quality at the end is much worse than using ht689. In all burns OHT,FHT,OS on SB off.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/1938937-post336.html

http://club.cdfreaks.com/1938979-post339.html

Attached Images

	LITE-ON_DVDRW_SHM-165P6S_MS0R_29-November-2007_22_55.png (40.2 KB, 87 views)
	LITE-ON_DVDRW_SHM-165P6S_MS0R_29-November-2007_23_08.png (40.4 KB, 86 views)

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My drives:
BD-Writer LG BH12LS30 1.01

LG BH08LS20 2.00

LG GGW-H20L YL07

Samsung SH-S223C SB06

- SH-S203B(SB04 FR FB EOPC)

- SH-W162C TS11

- TS-H552U US09

BENQ 1620 B7W9

- LG H42N@H44N RB01 - Region Reset
H10A@H10N@H12N UJ13

- H22N 1.02

- H55N 1.06

- GH22NP20 2.00

- GH22NS50

Liteon iHAS122B@524B

Liteon iHAS122A@524A

Sony AD-7190A@DH20A3P XV68 - EOHT - FB - FR - EOS / XV6D - Sony G120A@165P6S MS0R

Pioneer DVR-K17 - DVR-108 1.18 by nil:

Wind · 30-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by mognegna

Fourth disc, HT On - OS/OHT Off
In this case no speed drop, burning process completed with very good result.

Attachment 129870
Attachment 129871
Attachment 129872

Fifth disc, Verbatim TYG03 @ 20x, HT On - OS/OHT Off
Speed drop and same story as YUDEN000T03.

Attachment 129873

I think if you use 18x instead of 20x for your drive, it would be much stable. I have face the same condition at my side, too. Our engineers is still working hard on it......

Wind · 30-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhadoom

Wind,

two burns of MCC004 from the same batch as previously posted in this thread and burned at 20x. The quality at the end is much worse than using ht689. In all burns OHT,FHT,OS on SB off.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/1938937-post336.html

http://club.cdfreaks.com/1938979-post339.html

From my point of view, the quality is almost the same with HT689. Sometimes you will just get larger PIE near the end with 20x and same firmware. But, I will try to see if I can improve this...

**C0deKing** · 30-11-2007

OEM ProdiscF02, burned at 20x, All On (4:59)

Very cheap DVD-R media burned at 20x.

Attached Images

	D176_XV5M_ProdiscF02_20x_NS_BS_1.png (42.5 KB, 88 views)
	D176_XV5M_ProdiscF02_20x_NS_ES_1.png (38.4 KB, 86 views)

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*worker* · 30-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wind

From my point of view, the quality is almost the same with HT689. Sometimes you will just get larger PIE near the end with 20x and same firmware. But, I will try to see if I can improve this...

I agree. The rise in PIE is not that big of a problem. Keep in mind that these disc's may be marginal for such high burning speeds. I would be much more concerned with high jitter and PIF.

I'm trying to get a few test burns done myself to see how this firmware does. It's been a long day already but I have to give it a try. I'm encouraged by some of the scans posted so far.

*worker* · 30-11-2007

MCC004@20X
This is a newly opened package. Different batch than previous burns.
I'm quite happy with this.

Good work Wind.

Attached Images

	ATAPI___DVD_A__DH20A3P_XV5M_29-November-2007_20_28_MCC_004.png (42.9 KB, 83 views)
	ATAPI___DVD_A__DH20A4P_9P54_29-November-2007_20_41_MCC_004_PIPO.png (41.9 KB, 81 views)

*Bob* · 30-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by worker

MCC004@20X
This is a newly opened package. Different batch than previous burns.
I'm quite happy with this.

Good work Wind.

Does Plextor inner/outer tests look better now worker?

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*worker* · 30-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling56

Does Plextor inner/outer tests look better now worker?

So far they do, but I'm still testing. I'm doing a beta/jitter scan at the moment.

**C0deKing** · 30-11-2007

Imation MCC004 (Prodisc), burned at 20x, All On (4:52)

One PIF cluster but otherwise very good.

Attached Images

	D177_XV5M_MCC_004_20x_NS_BS_1.png (42.2 KB, 81 views)
	D177_XV5M_MCC_004_20x_NS_ES_1.png (38.6 KB, 83 views)

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*worker* · 30-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by C0deKing

Imation MCC004 (Prodisc), burned at 20x, All On (4:52)

One PIF cluster but otherwise very good.

Perhaps a small blemish on the disc?

**C0deKing** · 30-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by worker

Perhaps a small blemish on the disc?

No, it lines up with two OHT points.

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*worker* · 30-11-2007

Sony D21@18X
Good for this batch.

Attached Images

	ATAPI___DVD_A__DH20A3P_XV5M_29-November-2007_20_55_SONY_D21.png (44.3 KB, 79 views)
	ATAPI___DVD_A__DH20A4P_9P54_29-November-2007_21_16_SONY_D21_PIPO.png (42.5 KB, 78 views)
	ATAPI___DVD_A__DH20A4P_9P54_29-November-2007_21_26_SONY_D21_Read.png (37.9 KB, 78 views)

**C0deKing** · 30-11-2007

Verbatim MCC004 (Prodisc), burned at 20x, All On (4:54)

This is the same media that used to hit 24% jitter at the end, with FHT/OHT off.

Attached Images

	D178_XV5M_MCC_004_20x_NS_BS_1.png (42.3 KB, 81 views)
	D178_XV5M_MCC_004_20x_NS_ES_1.png (38.5 KB, 81 views)

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BenQ Patches: Fast Burn (FB) | Enhanced SolidBurn (ESB)
Samsung Patches: Fast Read (FR) | Remove RipLock (RLR) | Fast Burn (FB) | Retain book type (BS) | Default DVD-ROM (ROMD)

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*worker* · 30-11-2007

Beta/Jitter from MCC004 a few posts obove.
Shown at 2 scales. This looks much better than the previous firmware.

Attached Images

	MCC004_112907_Beta-Jitter.png (10.8 KB, 79 views)
	MCC004_112907_Beta-Jitter_Finer.png (11.7 KB, 79 views)

**C0deKing** · 30-11-2007

Verbatim MCC004 (PAPA), burned at 20x, All On (4:54)

The raised PIEs is normal for this batch of media. I think this firmware and my drive are getting married.

Attached Images

	D179_XV5M_MCC_004_20x_NS_BS_1.png (42.4 KB, 78 views)
	D179_XV5M_MCC_004_20x_NS_ES_1.png (38.2 KB, 78 views)

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LiteOn Patches: Fast Read (FR) | Fast Burn (FB) | Enhanced OverSpeed (EOS) | Enhanced Online HyperTuning (EOHT)
BenQ Patches: Fast Burn (FB) | Enhanced SolidBurn (ESB)
Samsung Patches: Fast Read (FR) | Remove RipLock (RLR) | Fast Burn (FB) | Retain book type (BS) | Default DVD-ROM (ROMD)

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*worker* · 30-11-2007

Verbatim MCC03RG20@18X
Good for this batch.

Attached Images

	ATAPI___DVD_A__DH20A3P_XV5M_29-November-2007_21_38_MCC_03RG20__.png (46.7 KB, 77 views)
	ATAPI___DVD_A__DH20A4P_9P54_29-November-2007_21_50_MCC_03RG20_PIPO.png (42.9 KB, 78 views)

*Bob* · 30-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by worker

Verbatim MCC03RG20@18X
Good for this batch.

Very nice for that media.

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**C0deKing** · 30-11-2007

OEN SONY16D1, burned at 18x, All On (5:31)

Long slowdown in the middle but still a very good result.

Attached Images

	D181_XV5M_SONY16D1_20x_NS_BS_1.png (42.1 KB, 77 views)
	D181_XV5M_SONY16D1_20x_NS_ES_1.png (38.5 KB, 76 views)

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*worker* · 30-11-2007

@C0deKing, Do you have any Ritek R05? I can't get them to burn even poorly in the 20A3P, They are horrible in this drive. My other drives can burn them, not great, but far better than the 20A3P.

@Wind, The Ritek R05 strategy may have a problem.

**C0deKing** · 30-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by worker

@C0deKing, Do you have any Ritek R05? I can't get them to burn even poorly in the 20A3P, They are horrible in this drive. My other drives can burn them, not great, but far better than the 20A3P.

Sorry, it's not one I can get here at the moment.

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**C0deKing** · 30-11-2007

Hi Wind. This is the first 8x burn I have tried in a while and I note there is still a long leadout when burning at this speed. Writing ends in 8:05 and the burn finished in 8:31. All options were on.

Attached Images

D183_XV5M_CMC_MAG_E01_8x_NS_BS_1.png (40.1 KB, 72 views)

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BenQ Patches: Fast Burn (FB) | Enhanced SolidBurn (ESB)
Samsung Patches: Fast Read (FR) | Remove RipLock (RLR) | Fast Burn (FB) | Retain book type (BS) | Default DVD-ROM (ROMD)

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*nickyboy4* · 30-11-2007

xv5m, 16X Verbs, all on, burned at 18X MAX in 5:19
My best burn with this drive and this media. Should allow 20X with this media.

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	ATAPI___DVD_A__DH20A3P_XV5M_29-November-2007_22_57.png (54.2 KB, 70 views)
	ATAPI___DVD_A__DH20A3P_XV5M_29-November-2007_23_03.png (52.9 KB, 71 views)

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