Plextor PX-760 Review (by HWP)
| Plextor Writer Discuss, Plextor PX-760 Review (by HWP) at CD, DVD and Blu-ray Writers forum; After my (ongoing) look at the PX-755 ( http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=167499 ) this thread is to collect my findings about the PX-760 (TLA# 0000). Enjoy! |
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17-06-2006
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After my (ongoing) look at the PX-755 (http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=167499) this thread is to collect my findings about the PX-760 (TLA# 0000). Enjoy!
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17-06-2006
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Taiyo Yuden -R 16x (TYG03) sold as Panasonic
PX-760a, FW 1.03
AS: ON (did not create strategy, 18x not supported by AS)
Burn speed 18x CAV, no slowdown
TA-Test says: very good, good, good. Very good burn. Slightly higher PIE, but that seems normal for TYG03. A bit of a mass of PIF at the end where the speed goes over the certified limit of the media, but nothing critical. Both the 716 and the 760 read this fine. Very regular Beta/Jitter in the >16x speed area!
Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter, Read (716, 760) scans: -
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17-06-2006
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Taiyo Yuden +R 16x (Yuden000 T03 00) as sold by Plextor
PX-760a, FW 1.03
AS: ON (did not create strategy, 18x not supported by AS)
Burn speed 18x CAV, no slowdown
TA-Test says: good, good, good. Very good burn. Low PIE (for 18x!), a bit of a mass of PIF at the end where the speed goes over the certified limit of the media, but nothing critical. The 716 has some readback problems, the 760 reads this fine. Beta seems a bit worse than with TYG03.
Burst, Burst (close-up), Sum1, Beta/Jitter, Read (760 and 716) scans: -
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17-06-2006
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Verbatim +R 16x (MCC 004 00) as sold by Verbatim
PX-760a, FW 1.03
AS: ON (did not create strategy, 18x not supported by AS)
Burn speed 18x CAV, no slowdown
TA-Test says: not good, good, good. Good burn. Low PIE (for 18x!), a bit of a mass of PIF at the end where the speed goes over the certified limit of the media, but nothing critical. Beta seems a bit worse than with Yuden000 T03 00 and quite a bit worse than with TYG03. Both the 716 and the 760 read this fine.
Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter, Read (760 and 716) scans: -
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17-06-2006
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Taiyo Yuden Type 1 700MB 48x as sold by Plextor
PX-760a, FW 1.03
Burn speed 48x CAV, no slowdown
Not the lowest C1 total ever but very good nevertheless. Jitter stays regular. My PX-755 is giving me some minor C2 errors with FW 1.02 on these.
C1/C2, Beta/Jitter, Read (760): -
Posted:
17-06-2006
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Plextor 650MB 24x USRW (Mitsubishi Chemicals Type 4)
PX-760a, FW 1.03
Burn speed 24x Z-CLV, no slowdown
Very low C1 error rates (except at the beginning) for USRW media.
C1/C2 scan for a burn after a full erase, C1/C2 scan for a burn after a quick erase, Read Test for the burn after a quick erase: -
Posted:
17-06-2006
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Verbatim +RDL 2.4x (MKM 001 00)
PX-760a, FW 1.03
AS: Auto (did not create strategy, AS does not support DL)
Burn speed 6x CLV, no slowdown
Good result.TA-Test says "good" across the disc and both layers. Both the 760 and the 716 can read this fine. Beta could be a bit more regular. Jitter looks nice.
FE/TE, Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter, Read (760 and 716) scans: -
Posted:
18-06-2006
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Sony -R 16x (Sony 16D1) as sold by Sony
PX-760a, FW 1.03
AS: ON (did not create strategy)
Burn speed 16x CAV, slowdown to 12x ~@3.1GB
Despite AS being set to ON and no strategy in the AS-Database, AS did not create a Strategy. However the base strategy seems to be pretty mature and the result is pretty good IMHO.
TA-Test says good, very good, very good. Very regular Beta. Low Jitter. PIE are still very low but PIF seems to have a higher total than i'd have expected. Both the 760 and the 716 read this fine (the 760 having a slight problem @0.7GB position)
Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter, Read (760 and 716) scans: -
Posted:
18-06-2006
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PX-760a FW 1.03 in an external enclosure
Bridge Chip: Prolific 3507 USB2/FW400 with latest FW dd. 20 April 2006.
As you can see USB2 is only fast enough for 16x and then it's a close call. For comparison i've included results from a PX-716 connected both via USB2 and FW400.
Following are:
Write Transfer test PX-760 connected via USB2 (test stopped intentionally)
Write Transfer test PX-716 connected via USB2
Write Transfer test PX-716 connected via FW 400 -
Posted:
18-06-2006
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This is exactly the reason why the AS strategy was not created... you should use the AS Mode ON (Forced) for that...Quote:Originally Posted by hwpDespite AS being set to ON and no strategy in the AS-Database, AS did not create a Strategy. However the base strategy seems to be pretty mature and the result is pretty good IMHO.
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18-06-2006
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Hmmm. I always though "ON" would limit to AS created firmwares. If it uses AS and FW strategies, where is the difference to AUTO?Quote:Originally Posted by eltranquilThis is exactly the reason why the AS strategy was not created... you should use the AS Mode ON (Forced) for that... -
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18-06-2006
- # 12
Great Work hwp!
Now directly comparing the 755 to 760 the 760 seems to be better, especially with MCC 004. What would you say?__________________
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Posted:
18-06-2006
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My understanding of Plextor's description:Quote:Originally Posted by hwpHmmm. I always though "ON" would limit to AS created firmwares. If it uses AS and FW strategies, where is the difference to AUTO?
AS on:
Use AS database strategy if any, use firmware strategy if no suitable strategy present in AS database.
AS auto:
Drive checks media -> compares check result with strategies present in AS database and firmware and uses the "better" one - if no suitable strategy is found drive creates a new in AS database.
So AS on would NOT create a new strategy - AS auto (if required) and AS forced on would do this.__________________
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19-06-2006
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Imation 700MB 52x (Moser Baer India Type 6)
PX-760a, FW 1.03
Burn speed 48x CAV, no slowdown
Compared to PX-755 FW 1.04: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=127
C1/C2, Beta/Jitter scans: -
Posted:
22-06-2006
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Taiyo Yuden -R 8x (TYG02) sold as Panasonic (printable)
PX-760a, FW 1.03
AS: Auto (did create strategy)
Burn speed 8x P-CAV, no slowdown
Comparison to PX-755 with FW 1.04: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=100
FW 1.03 does not support 12x overspeed burning for these media anymore. 8x is the maximum speed.
Excellent burn with very regular Beta/Jitter. TA-Test says: very good, good, very good.
Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter, Read (716) scans: -
Posted:
22-06-2006
- # 21
Hmm, that TYG02 graph looks more like it came from a 712A, not a 760A. -
Posted:
22-06-2006
- # 22
Nice work HWP!
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Posted:
24-06-2006
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Taiyo Yuden -R 4x (Yuden TYG01) as sold by Panasonic
PX-760a, FW 1.03
AS: Auto (did create strategy)
Burn speed 4x CLV, no slowdown (8x overspeed is not offered)
Comparison to an AS burn in a PX-755 with with FW 1.04: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=109
TA-Test says good, good, good (peak shift limits this to 3, Jitter is up to 5).
Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter, Read (716) scans: -
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24-06-2006
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Moser Baer India -R 16x (MBI 03RG40) as sold by Imation (labelled made in India)
PX-760a, FW 1.03
AS: Auto (did create 12x strategy)
Burn speed 16x CLV, slowed down, see writing curve below
TA-Test says very good, good, very good. FE/TE-Test says ok, but PoweRec reacts on the tracking error spike @1.6GB and when it generally gets higher to the outside. Minor readback speed-drops for the 716.
Good result but 16x might be a bit much for these media. Notice that 8x towards the end leads to a "very good" TA result. So 12x or 8x might be a good idea.
FE/TE, Writing, Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter scans: -
Posted:
24-06-2006
- # 25
Verbatim 6x DVD-RW, MKM 01RW6X 01 Here. Great work hwp.
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