GameCube Blank DVD Media

semp · 15-10-2007

The following list is recordable DVD media and brands that have been reported to work in Nintendo GameCube systems without any errors. Note that adjustment of the drive potentiometer may be necessary. The list has been compiled from from several sources, including the GameCube Compatibility Survey and the VideoHelp.com Media List

Most Popular

1. RITEKG04 Ritek Corp.
2. RITEKG05 Ritek Corp.
3. CMC MAG. AF1 CMC Magnetics Corp.
4. FUJIFILM03 Fuji Film
5. MCC 01RG20 Mitsubishi Chemical Corp

MID (Media ID), brandnames, size, type, burn speeds:

AML: SIX, Data-On Premium, mini, -R, 1-2x

CMC MAG-E01, F01 : Memorex, Philips, full, +R, 2-4x

CMC MAG. AE1 : Verbatim, Imation, ESA, full, -R, 4-8x

CMC MAG. AF1, AF01 : TuffDisc 4x, Memorex 4x, ESA, RiDisc 4x, mini/full, -R, 1-4x

CMC-W01-012 : Testbrand full +RW 4x

EuroDig-Disc : unbranded mini -R 2x

FUJIFILM03 : Imation, Octron (LIDL), Philips, Fujifilm, Datawrite classic 8x, full, -R, 2-8x

INFOSMART01 : RiDisc, mini, 2x only

MBIPG101-W04-000 : Philips, full +RW, 4x

MCC 01RG20 : Verbatim DigitalMovie 4x, mini, -R, 2-4x, UPC 02394295089

MCC 02RG20 : Hyundai, Verbatim, full, -R, 2-8x

MCC-003-000 : Verbatim, full, +R, 8x

MCC-004-000, 00H : Verbatim 16x, full, +R, 4-16x, UPC 023942435129

MUST 001 : Sonic 4x, full, -R, 1x

OPTODISCK001 : MMORE, full, -R, 1x

OPTODISCR004, 008 : Staples, TIP, full, -R, 2-4x

PRINCO: Princo, mini, -R, 2x

PRINCO8X01 : Princo, mini, -R, 1-2x

PRODISC-R03-000 : Intenso, Memorex, full, +R, 4x

PRODISCG02 : Tuff Disc, full, -R, 2x

ProdiscF02 : Maxell, full, -R, 16x

ProdiscS03 : Datasafe, Bulkpaq, 4x, mini, -R, 2-4x

RICOHJPN-R00-001, 002, 004 : Imation, Platinum, Memorex full, +R, 2-8x

RITEK-R03-001, 002 : Ritek, +R, 1-2x

RITEKG01, F01 : Maxell, mini/full, -R, 1-8x

RITEKG03 : Fujifilm, full, -R, 1-2x

RITEKG04 : Ritek, RiData, Traxdata 4x, JVC, Fujifilm, Pleomax/Samsung 4x, Dynex, Office Depot, Platinum, Memorex 4x, Datasafe, Datawrite 4x, full/mini, -R, 1-4x

RITEKG05 : Ritek, Octron (LIDL), Verbatim, Maxell, RiDisc Xtreme 8x, Ridata 1-8x, Datawrite Yellow, ANV, full, -R, 1-8x

SONY08D1 : Sony, full, -R, 4x

SONY16 D1 : Sony Accucore, full, -R, 2x

TDKG02000000 : Sony Accucore, mini, -R, 2x, UPC 027242621886

TTG02, TTH02 : TDK, RiDisc, full, -R, 2-8x

TYG02 : Taiyo Yuden, unbranded, full, -R, 4x

VDSPMSAB 01, VDSPMS, : Verbatim, Datawrite red, unbranded yellow, mini, -R, 1-4x

Yi Jhan 001 : Yi Jhan, unbranded, mini/full, -R, 2-4x

YUDEN000-T02-000 : Sony, Verbatim, full, +R, 2-4x

Last edited by semp; 15-10-2007 at 07:04.

digital_ripper04 · 15-10-2007

I need to learn how to back up these games so I can play them on the wii

semp · 15-10-2007

The simplest way is to get a DVD-ROM $20, and RawDump that rips them.

The fastest way is with GCOM, a broadband adapter $30, and XenoGC modchip $12

Or you could just download the torrents - all the work has pretty much been done.

*DrageMester* · 15-10-2007

@semp: Thanks for posting the compatibility list and links. I think this will be useful to other GameCube owners.

Quote:

Originally Posted by semp

Or you could just download the torrents - all the work has pretty much been done.

Don't suggest or encourage people to get illegal copies of copyrighted material!

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semp · 27-10-2007

Here's some newer media that I confirmed works on a DOL-101(USA) @ 150 ohms:

RITEKF1: Memorex, full, 16x, -R, 4x

Maybe the RITEKF1 will not have the degradation problems of the older RITEKG04 and RITEKG05.

Attached Images

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*cd pirate* · 27-10-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by semp

Here's some newer media that I confirmed works on a DOL-101(USA) @ 150 ohms:

RITEKF1: Memorex, full, 16x, -R, 4x

Maybe the RITEKF1 will not have the degradation problems of the older RITEKG04 and RITEKG05.

I think Ritek F1 has been reported as safe so far. It shouldn't degrade.

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Best DVD media:

Verbatim MCC002 4x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC02RG20 8x DVD-R
DATASTREAM BRANDED CMC MAG E01 8x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC04 & MCC03RG20 16x DVD +-R

Ritek G05 media =

My writers: BenQ 1620 (thanks to terminalvelocd!), BenQ DW1800 x 2, LG 4167B, LG H22N, Pioneer 106D, Pioneer 109, Pioneer 111L.

*Kevatcrewe* · 27-10-2007

I agree with cd pirate - my Maxell and Traxdata branded RITEKF1 DVD-R's are absolutely fine and stable after just under a year since being burned

semp · 20-11-2007

Now that my drive has learned the RITEKF1 media, I'm getting pretty good burns with it. It works great with the laser pot set at anywhere between 100-150 Ohms on a DOL-101(USA)

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semp · 30-11-2007

After extensive testing of media with the Nintendo GameCube, it's time to share the results. The GameCube DVD player has to be one of the most picky DVD drives ever made. Was it intentional? If everything is not just right, the player will not read and will give an error - even with near perfectly burnt DVDs.

Anyway, what it really comes down to is not only selecting media that the GameCube can read, but also a major factor is properly adjusting the laser potentiometer. If the potentiometer is not adjusted just right, even media that the player can read fine, will appear to not work at all. Adjusting the laser properly will result in the same media working flawlessly.

Quite a bit of media seems to work, however, the key difference is that some media will work at a greater range of laser power than others. The greater the tolerance of a certain media in the GameCube, the easier it will be to find the range of laser adjustment it works well in. Until you hit the sweet spot for a given media, you will get disc read errors.

Out of all the media I tested that worked, here are the ranges in Ohms that specific types of media will work at error free in the GameCube. They are listed in order of compatibility. It's important to note that the Ohms should only be considered relative to each other since each individual GameCube can be factory adjusted to a wide range of differing Ohm settings to read the much more tolerant official media.

Code:

 
Default on my Cube          185 Ohms
Official GameCube disc      50-350 Ohms
Memorex 16x -R RITEKF1      80-150 Ohms
Memorex 16x -R MCC 03RG20   80-130 Ohms
Sony 16x +R SONY D21        80-110 Ohms
TDK 16x +R CMC MAG M01      80-100 Ohms
Sony 8x +R YUDEN000 T02     80-90 Ohms

So as you can see, T02 might give great burns, but it's really hard to find the exact laser power that it will work at. The slightest adjustment of the laser potentiometer will change the Ohms by 10 to 20 causing this media to not be read! The RITEK, on the other hand, has a much larger range that it will work at and as a result it's very easy to get it working.

By setting my Potentiometer at the sweet spot of about 85 Ohms, my GameCube is able to read all these types of media with no errors. Care must also be taken to adjust the potentiometer a little higher than the desired Ohms. This is because as the GameCube is used or has read errors, the GameCube adjusts the Ohms down automatically on it's own up to about a 15 Ohm range. So if you set your Ohms at 85, after a while it may end up auto adjusted down to about 70. Therefore, if you are going for 85, it's better to adjust the Ohms between 90 and 100.

Now for the media I tested that simply did not work at all, or had errors, no matter what I adjusted the laser to in 10 Ohm increments:

Memorex 16x +R DAXON AZ3
Philips 16x -R CMC MAG. AM3
HP 16x -R CMC MAG. AM3
TDK 4x -RW TDK601saku
Magnavox 4x +RW MKM A02
TDK 4x +RW PHILIPS 041

It would be nice to find some RW that worked!

*DrageMester* · 30-11-2007

Nice info there for GameCube users. I don't have a GameCube myself so I cannot comment on your findings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by semp

It would be nice to find some RW that worked!

For such a fussy reader, that might not be possible at all since RW media has much lower reflectivity than recordable media.

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*cd pirate* · 30-11-2007

RW media will never work as drage said - it's reflectivity is far too low.

When you talk about ohms - does more ohms = more laser power to work?

Either way, it seems that Ritek seems good since it works at a wide range of ohms. Ritek G04/5 were king of compatibility back in the day. Probably due to high reflectivity. So 16x ritek may also be good but in this case they seem to have fixed the degradation problems

This is why originals work so well - they have such high reflectivity and also most likely very low jitter.

T02 or TYG02 may scan very well in error tests but what good is that without high reflectivity?

I'd be interested to see how Verbatim 8x -R media goes (MCC02RG20). Also CMC MAG E01 (sold usually under HP +R 8x brand). They're said to have decent reflectivity and professional tests back this up. But is it true in real world operation for game cube? Maybe you can find out for us?

Keep up the good work

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Best DVD media:

Verbatim MCC002 4x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC02RG20 8x DVD-R
DATASTREAM BRANDED CMC MAG E01 8x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC04 & MCC03RG20 16x DVD +-R

Ritek G05 media =

My writers: BenQ 1620 (thanks to terminalvelocd!), BenQ DW1800 x 2, LG 4167B, LG H22N, Pioneer 106D, Pioneer 109, Pioneer 111L.

*zaina* · 30-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by semp

The simplest way is to get a DVD-ROM $20, and RawDump that rips them.

The fastest way is with GCOM, a broadband adapter $30, and XenoGC modchip $12

semp, thanks for the links. In your opinion what's the easiest way to backup a gamecube game for playback on gamecube? Do the above links works for the purpose? There's lots of guide online but not all the same.

*Womi* · 30-11-2007

I have two GameCubes, one adjusted to 130 Ohms, the other one to 160.

Both are really fussy about media.

It seems to me that even the slightest PIE rise gives me an instant Disc Read Error.

I have made best experiences with Samsung Pleomax branded OPTODISCR016 media and Verbatim MCC 03RG30s.

*cd pirate* · 30-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Womi

I have two GameCubes, one adjusted to 130 Ohms, the other one to 160.

Both are really fussy about media.

It seems to me that even the slightest PIE rise gives me an instant Disc Read Error.

I have made best experiences with Samsung Pleomax branded OPTODISCR016 media and Verbatim MCC 03RG30s.

I highly doubt the PIE rises would make a huge effect. Originals often have many more errors than a burnt disc. Reflectivity can vary on a disc just like errors. You can burn a disc and it will have over .5 reflectivity throughout the whole disc except for one spot where it dives down to .43 and then you may have problems.

I highly doubt it's the PIE - which is the most correctable error. Originals also wouldn't work if this were the case. PIF on the other hand can cause problems. If you get clumps of PIF they can cause a big problem in readback.

Btw, OptodiscR016 has been reported to be good media with low errors but more importantly, I've checked professional scans and they show that it's reflectivity is quite good. MCC03RG20 is also good media when it comes to compatibility.

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Best DVD media:

Verbatim MCC002 4x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC02RG20 8x DVD-R
DATASTREAM BRANDED CMC MAG E01 8x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC04 & MCC03RG20 16x DVD +-R

Ritek G05 media =

My writers: BenQ 1620 (thanks to terminalvelocd!), BenQ DW1800 x 2, LG 4167B, LG H22N, Pioneer 106D, Pioneer 109, Pioneer 111L.

semp · 05-12-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd pirate

RW media will never work as drage said - it's reflectivity is far too low.

When you talk about ohms - does more ohms = more laser power to work?

I'd be interested to see how Verbatim 8x -R media goes (MCC02RG20). Also CMC MAG E01 (sold usually under HP +R 8x brand). They're said to have decent reflectivity and professional tests back this up. But is it true in real world operation for game cube? Maybe you can find out for us?

Keep up the good work

Thanks!

I had some TDK CMC MAG E01 8x +R and some AML 002 for testing, both of which are supposed to have good reflectivity, but very oddly, my Lite-On 1653S drive will not recognize either of these blanks. Maybe the reflectivity is too high for my drive? There was another person that posted the same problem with a 1693S and the TDK E01.

As far as adjusting the Ohms or resistance of the laser potentiometer, I expect that lowering the Ohms would increase the power or focus of the laser as it would allow more current to flow. But I did not take any measurements.

In the OP I listed a couple of reports I found of +RW media working:

CMC-W01-012 : Testbrand full +RW 4x

MBIPG101-W04-000 : Philips, full +RW, 4x

The question is, where can you find this type of media and/or is there something else similarly compatible. I think Testbrand is only sold in the UK? As for the Philips, the hunt is on...

semp · 05-12-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaina

semp, thanks for the links. In your opinion what's the easiest way to backup a gamecube game for playback on gamecube? Do the above links works for the purpose? There's lots of guide online but not all the same.

I think the simplest way is;

A) Opening the GameCube by melting a hard plastic pen onto the screws.

B) Install a $10 XenoGC mod chip to read burnt discs. The hardest part is just 6 small solder points - use small strands of wire.

C) Use an old LG GDR-8161B series DVD-ROM to rip with Rawdump 2.0. And use Imgburn to burn the ISO.

D) Adjust the potentiometer to read your burns. It takes some time, but it's fairly easy. The trickiest part is finding good compatible media, thus this thread. Full size Memorex 16x -R Made in Taiwan (MIT) is RITEKF1 and seems to be the champ from my testing, it's cheap, a widely available brand, and works well.

E) To use full size media, you will want a full size DVD GameCube case otherwise you will have to leave the case off.

*cd pirate* · 05-12-2007

Geez only 6 solder joints lol. Much easier than PS2 :P

With the E01, it may be that your Liteon is too old and doesn't support burning it properly. A newer drive should not have any trouble. I know my Pioneers (which are excellent writers) burn to E01 and many more media very well.

Ah and yes you're right, lower the ohms would allow more current through so higher ohms would mean the laser can read the disc easier. That's why the original has such a large amount of ohms you can set the laser at and will still work.

I wonder what your scans of your burns look like? It would be interesting to see how those RitekF1 scan (if you haven't already posted scans lol - bad memory here).

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Best DVD media:

Verbatim MCC002 4x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC02RG20 8x DVD-R
DATASTREAM BRANDED CMC MAG E01 8x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC04 & MCC03RG20 16x DVD +-R

Ritek G05 media =

My writers: BenQ 1620 (thanks to terminalvelocd!), BenQ DW1800 x 2, LG 4167B, LG H22N, Pioneer 106D, Pioneer 109, Pioneer 111L.

semp · 07-12-2007

Yeah, the GC is nice and easy, good system for young kids - lots of them going for cheap on eBay now. Of course if you get a Wii it will play all the GC games also. The new Wii D2C chip is 31 solder points. So, a bit tougher.

Yep, the TDK E01 works fine in a friend's writer and other E01 works fine in my 1653S but not that TDK 8x E01. *shrugs*

Actually the lower the ohms the more power, thus the easier the disc is read. But there are reports if you set the ohms too low (below 80) then it can burn out the laser faster.

The scans of the RITEKF1 are in this thread. The first burn was not the greatest but not too bad, but I guess my drive learned the media because it burns great now - see the second scan posted here.

*cd pirate* · 07-12-2007

Lol yeah, less ohms = less resistance and more power gets through. I completely worded my post wrong

So the more ohms, the better since the laser is needing less power to read the disc.

I'd be interested if you test any more media and post the results here with how much ohms the GC needs to read the disc

Some of the discs I'd be interested in seeing are:

Verbatim DVD-R 8x
Verbatim DVD+R 8x
Taiyo Yuden 8x -R (TYG02 is said to have low reflectivity so it would be interesting to see if it's at all readable)
CMC MAG E01 (if you can get your writer to burn to it lol)

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Best DVD media:

Verbatim MCC002 4x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC02RG20 8x DVD-R
DATASTREAM BRANDED CMC MAG E01 8x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC04 & MCC03RG20 16x DVD +-R

Ritek G05 media =

My writers: BenQ 1620 (thanks to terminalvelocd!), BenQ DW1800 x 2, LG 4167B, LG H22N, Pioneer 106D, Pioneer 109, Pioneer 111L.

Eggcock · 28-07-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd pirate

Some of the discs I'd be interested in seeing are:

Verbatim DVD-R 8x
Verbatim DVD+R 8x
Taiyo Yuden 8x -R (TYG02 is said to have low reflectivity so it would be interesting to see if it's at all readable)
CMC MAG E01 (if you can get your writer to burn to it lol)

Ancient thread, but CMC MAG E01 are pretty useless in the cube I've found - lots of DRE's or not booting at all. verb MCC03RG20 weren't much better (good for keeping a backup of your backup on though).

Unfortunately Ritek G04 (or G05 full size) seem to be the best disc for the cube. :/ Using Riteks I've never had a DRE or a game fail to boot.

doom5 · 28-07-2008

Does this media guide also apply to the Wii as well?

I haven't done any thorough testing as of yet, but the Wii seems to read faster/seek less with some cheap Ritek Fuji DVD-R media than my Verbatim MCC004 and Yuden T002

*dakhaas* · 29-07-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eggcock

Ancient thread, but CMC MAG E01 are pretty useless in the cube I've found - lots of DRE's or not booting at all. verb MCC03RG20 weren't much better (good for keeping a backup of your backup on though).

Unfortunately Ritek G04 (or G05 full size) seem to be the best disc for the cube. :/ Using Riteks I've never had a DRE or a game fail to boot.

I should see if I can dig up someones compatability tests results, but what I recall was that RITEKF1 and OptodiscR016 were stable media which had quite good succes rate. (Still not as good as RitekG04/G05 and Princo !, which performed best but have stability problems.)

Incase of the WII. The WII is a bit better reader as the gamecube, but still a not so good reader.

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semp · 30-12-2008

This is strange. Previously I had tested:

Philips 16x -R CMC MAG. AM3
HP 16x -R CMC MAG. AM3

Neither worked at all.

Today I tested:

Magnavox 16x -R CMC MAG. AM3

And it works great, even at 140 Ohms. Good burns too.

Same media different brand, totally different results?

nintendo64 · 04-01-2009

Ritek G04 disks dont seem to work after a 10 months.

how is the ritek G05 media? anyone got recommendation as to what disk can last?

*Wizzu* · 04-01-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by nintendo64

Ritek G04 disks dont seem to work after a 10 months.

how is the ritek G05 media? anyone got recommendation as to what disk can last?

Ritek G05 has a reflectivity and compatibility that is just as good as G04.

Sadly, it degrades even faster, like in this recent example I just posted. And very consistently, i.e. *MOST* G05 discs degrade at a fast rate.

On this forum, we call Ritek G05 discs "time bombs" and we consider it as among the worst media available on the market because of that.
Read Ritek G05 is crap media

You can read Dakhaas' post above, too...

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